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Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 8, 2022, 11:31 PM

Dang the colleges have turned more liberal. Hope Clemson doesn't go this far left. Pretty sick.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 8, 2022, 11:44 PM

Pickens County was one of the only counties with a major college to vote Republican in 2020. Granted, Clemson's student population is not as large as most of the major universities, but there is hope.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 6:12 AM

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Election Day is a day off for Clemson and usually part of a longer fall break. Most of the students go home and if they vote they vote at home. The Pickens county stats are more representative of the faculty vote than the student vote.

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Yes, most college kids....


Nov 9, 2022, 8:48 AM

dont vote in the city they attend school at. They go home and vote, dont vote or do a mail in ballot.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 12:04 AM

It's definitely heading left. WYFF 4 had a Clemson Political Science Professor on to talk about the votes and he was all giddy because the democrats were in closer races than many thought.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 7:24 AM

As far back as I can remember Poli Sci profs have been more liberal than the university overall. Even during the Reagan era it was a relief to finish classes like Poli Sci and Soc and get to Econ and Accounting where the faculty had a more conservative mindset.

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The bulk of Clemson PolySci teachers are Constitutionalists


Nov 9, 2022, 3:29 PM

Consider parts of Clemson receive funding from the Koch brothers, and some are consultants for republican candidates ... I don't see the faculty turning leftwards.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 9:10 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

Maybe Herschel lying about abortions and multiple kids he doesn’t claim has something to do with it. Or maybe lying about graduating at the top of his class or being a G-man has something to do with it. Who knows.

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Let’s be completely honest


Nov 9, 2022, 10:27 AM

Both of those candidates are terrible! The other guy is a slumlord. But that’s actually very common. Black people #### all over other black people. There’s a long history of that. There are some great amateur documentaries on YouTube that look at black communities during and after segregation that are pretty enlightening. Most black communities only had businesses that were owned and run by black people during segregation. The buildings were in terrible condition, product quality and selection was terrible, prices were high, but people had no choice. The minute white businesses started coming into the community the county stepped in and condemned most of those buildings and blacks loved going to the white businesses because they were actually treated better, better quality and selection, and cheaper prices.

I see it right now on James Island. On the way to Folly Beach at Crosby‘s seafood they have a food truck with fried seafood as well as other Lowcountry standards. A stones throw away in a little black community on James Island are some blacks that run a similar seafood food truck. Their customers are mostly black, not people that live on Folly Beach or renting a beach house. Yet their food is more expensive and poor quality compared to Crosby‘s.

I hate to break it to liberals but black people exploit the hell out of other black people especially in black communities where people have less options.

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Wrong board, morans!***


Nov 9, 2022, 6:04 AM



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Herschel was heavily recruited to play football at Clemson.


Nov 9, 2022, 7:26 AM

There. Happy now?

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Re: Herschel was heavily recruited to play football at Clemson.


Nov 9, 2022, 7:48 AM

I heard from a friend who is a HS HC and knows the Walker Family. Herschel was totem between UGA and Clemson. With Clemson a slight favorite. One with his parents Herschel flipped a coin for Clemson or UGA. It came up UGA. But before Herschel could let his parents know he was really more interested in Clemson the called Vince Dooley and committed Herschel to UGA. Dooley immediately announced it and Herschel was headed to UGA.

If HW or Woodruff’s Tony Rice had played at Clemson it’s possible Danny Ford would have won a second NC. Especially if Tony Rice had come to Clemson.

I can’t confirm this is 100% accurate but a couple of my UGA friends have said that’s pretty much how it happened.

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lol.. your UGA fans are liars


Nov 9, 2022, 7:55 AM

it came down to houses and sports cars

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Re: lol.. your UGA fans are liars


Nov 9, 2022, 10:11 AM

It may have. Lol we may never know. I don’t know if you remember Marcus Dupree a freshman who played for Barry Switzer at OU. Switzer was hell bent that freshman would not start at OU even though he ran circles around ever RB at OU. After OU got off to an 0-3 starts someone above Switzer told him Marcus Dupree would start the rest of the games. He had a great year. When Marcus went home for the summer he was not going back to OU because Switzer was such a jerk to him. A few days a nice modular showed at to replace the little house Marcus Dupree’s mom lived. Marcus went back to OU.

So yep I remember those days of cars, houses and money. My neighbor was recruited by UGA, Clemson, Ole Miss, SC and other’s. He was going to Clemson but when the DC was fired he choose SC and Sparky Woods. He said on many recruiting trips one trip especially from ole Miss he received an envelope he owed on his flight home. It had 5 $100 bills. While playing for the coots he received financial assistance from some of the assistant coaches on the range of about $2000. That was in the early to mid 90’s.

Now with NIL you can legally buy your team! Lol

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no may have..


Nov 9, 2022, 10:16 AM



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Re: no may have..


Nov 9, 2022, 10:23 AM

Nice photo. I will be glad to pay you for a copy.

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Walker grew up dirt poor in a big family.


Nov 9, 2022, 10:30 AM [ in reply to lol.. your UGA fans are liars ]

But in that ABC feature on him during a nationally televised football game where he drove up to a convenient store in a brand new black Trans Am it was pretty obvious why he went to UGA.

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Re: Herschel was heavily recruited to play football at Clemson.


Nov 9, 2022, 10:26 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel was heavily recruited to play football at Clemson. ]

I'm the same age as Herschel Walker and remember his recruitment very well. (I don't believe the coin toss thing in the slightest.) It was always clear that the final three schools were Georgia, Clemson, and Georgia Tech - he probably said as much, though I can't remember it that well. But none of us really thought he was going anywhere but Georgia - that seemed to always be where his heart was, he just kept his options open for a while. But, man, did everyone want him, for sure!

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 6:08 AM

He is also an idiot. So there is that in the equation.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 6:36 AM

Ditto that.........GA GOP has nobody else to blame but themselves for Walker

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Wait. I thought it was racist to talk about a black person like that.

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Nov 9, 2022, 7:24 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

When did that change?

Thx

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That was the exact thought I had...


Nov 9, 2022, 8:55 AM

it only works one way

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You missed the memo


Nov 9, 2022, 10:35 AM [ in reply to Wait. I thought it was racist to talk about a black person like that. ]

Only liberals and Democrats can talk #### about women, Hispanics, homosexuals, basically any minority or so-called oppressed group.

This is why they say you should support all women and homosexuals and Hispanics and blacks and any other oppressed group. Of course that immediately changes when a member of those groups is successful and identifies as conservative!

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Are you saying we shouldn't support the oppressed?


Nov 9, 2022, 11:13 AM

that's kind of a confusing message and not very christian of you.

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No one is oppressed in America.


Nov 13, 2022, 3:47 AM

The poorest people in America are among the top 10% globally. The poorest people in America have cars, own houses, cell phones, high-speed Internet, air-conditioning, flatscreen TVs! Please! Enough with the lies and propaganda!

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didn't stop the current POTUS from being elected***


Nov 9, 2022, 7:55 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]



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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 10:07 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

How is he an idiot? And Warnock is better? Do some research he is the joke and it’s not even close.

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The level of stupid you have to be to vote


Nov 9, 2022, 6:57 AM

for Walker would be staggering

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As if Warnock is any better !!!***


Nov 9, 2022, 8:33 AM



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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


kinda like Fetterman.***


Nov 9, 2022, 9:46 AM [ in reply to The level of stupid you have to be to vote ]



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That guy is not only mentally not fit for office.


Nov 9, 2022, 10:38 AM

But a trust fund baby that’s never worked a job in his life. And his money bought him the position of mayor in a Pennsylvania town that was already hurting and he made the place even worse!

He goes around calling awes this rich elitist. But ours made his money. Fetterman was born with it.

And he’s a complete slob. Last night he was in jeans and a hoodie. Normally he wears shorts and a hoodie. They say he only owns one suit and he only wears it when he has to as lieutenant governor of Pennsylvania.

And all of his positions are far left!

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Re: The level of stupid you have to be to vote


Nov 9, 2022, 10:11 AM [ in reply to The level of stupid you have to be to vote ]

Well I haven’t followed that race closely, not being a Georgian, but why would it be staggeringly stupid to vote for Herschel? A lot of Georgians have apparently and in the runoff he’s likely to pick up many of the Independent votes and may well have won outright if not for the 3rd candidate.

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Re: The level of stupid you have to be to vote


Nov 9, 2022, 10:12 AM [ in reply to The level of stupid you have to be to vote ]

Well I haven’t followed that race closely, not being a Georgian, but why would it be staggeringly stupid to vote for Herschel? A lot of Georgians have apparently and in the runoff he’s likely to pick up many of the Independent votes and may well have won outright if not for the 3rd candidate.

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Nov 9, 2022, 10:12 AM [ in reply to The level of stupid you have to be to vote ]

Well I haven’t followed that race closely, not being a Georgian, but why would it be staggeringly stupid to vote for Herschel? A lot of Georgians have apparently and in the runoff he’s likely to pick up many of the Independent votes and may well have won outright if not for the 3rd candidate.

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If you like...


Nov 9, 2022, 10:28 AM

soaring gas prices, record inflation, uncontrolled government spending, high interest rates, ever-increasing crime rates, defunding the police, and millions more illegal immigrants having unabated access to the US border, Warnock is you guy.

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Re: The level of stupid you have to be to vote


Nov 9, 2022, 10:19 AM [ in reply to The level of stupid you have to be to vote ]

Do you mean the island of Guam capsizing stupid? Because we've been there before.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 7:02 AM

If that imbecile was elected to Congress, I’ve lost hope in this nation. I’m no liberal, but ANYONE would be better than that guy.

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One thing worse would have been Stacy Abrams elected


Nov 9, 2022, 7:17 AM

governor!

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Don't get your hopes up! PA elected Fetterman!!***


Nov 9, 2022, 7:18 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]



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PA elected a guy that is actually dead!


Nov 13, 2022, 3:51 AM

Democrats vote blue no matter who! Even for a guy that died!

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anyone but Warnock


Nov 9, 2022, 9:52 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

he's gonna vote lock step with the people that will make gas continue to skyrocket which makes food, goods and services, inflation, interest rates, you name it go to astronomical heights. Along with allowing another 5 million illegal immigrants in for the next two years along with how many other things that put you and me in a deeper hole. The obvious point is not that Herschel was some savior politician it was we needed anyone that can help the country to stop bleeding. Big picture is way more important than insignificant personality quirks.

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Re: anyone but Warnock


Nov 9, 2022, 10:31 AM

You understand that crude oil is a commodity on the world market, right? The price isn't set in Washington. The economic actions taken against Russia have reduced supply so the price has gone up. This is pretty simple economics. (Oil company profits are way up because of the price increases, so maybe you should be mad at them?) Western Europe, which is far more dependent on Russian energy than us, has it much worse.

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understand but in the USA we have enough to supply ourselves


Nov 9, 2022, 10:46 AM

and be energy independent. But when you cut off all drilling and disable the Keystone Pipe line as well as make every effort to shutdown coal plants you then make yourself 'Dependent' on those foreign supplies and market pricing shifts. We essentially "create the catastrophe" ourselves when we didn't have to. Far left theories about the global warming crisis creates this problem and there is no end in sight. And the war in Ukraine im convinced is essentially the US fighting Russia on foreign soil. Which is and always has been a liberal progressive globalist agenda of there's. We are basically supplying and fighting in the war efforts there... its just not framed that way by these media outlets.

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Re: understand but in the USA we have enough to supply ourselves


Nov 9, 2022, 11:27 AM

Again, not trying to be too tough on you, but you understand that we are a Net Oil Exporter, don't you? Production began ratcheting up in the Obama years and, by 2020, we were producing more than we were using.

Oil companies cut production when gas prices dropped and need to get it back up again so that they can export more without raising prices on us. That's on oil companies.

Russia invaded Ukraine, full stop. Thankfully, Washington has been mostly united that that can not be allowed to stand. We need to oppose them just as our grandfathers opposed German encroachment in Europe before WWII.

I think it is becoming something of a proxy war with Russia, as Ukraine is depending on the US and Western Europe to keep them supplied. But it started by Russia's unilateral action. (And let's remember that the first Trump impeachment came when he held up military aid to Ukraine because he wanted dirt on a political opponent. Can you imagine how different response of the US would have been to the Russian invasion of Ukraine had it happened on Trump's watch? Ukraine, the Balkans... Putin wants to restore the USSR and Trump would have been fine with it. Heck, he praised Putin when this war began - as if starting a war somehow makes you a strong leader.) I'm not sure how believing that a sovereign nation shouldn't just be invaded in a land grab is part of a "liberal progressive globalist agenda," whatever the hell that is.

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Wow!


Nov 13, 2022, 3:54 AM

Clueless, ill-informed, and brainwashed!

That oil increase under Obama started under Bush 43.

Yes we can let Russia invade Ukraine. We should not get involved it has nothing to do with us. Also the part of Ukraine they want to take those people are ethnic Russians and want to be part of Russia. Also Ukraine is just as bad if not worse than Russia when it comes to human rights and they are in fact white supremacists and Nazis!

And the Democrats and the media and Russia Russia Russia help set all this up and it’s overwhelmingly people on the left and the media pushing us into this war with Russia and the Ukraine. When I see a Ukrainian flag I know it’s a Democrat! Because the Democrats in only ones brainwashed into believing this BS!

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It was all his former professors, oh wait, he go to class***


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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 7:33 AM

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Dang the colleges have turned more liberal. Hope Clemson doesn't go this far left. Pretty sick.


hate to tell you it is to late. clemson is very woke. i know 2 people that work for the university and they they say it is very woke there now. they just have to keep their mouth shut to keep their jobs.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 8:38 AM

I agree with you deroberts. I don’t hate any group of people. But I don’t have to agree with them or support their platform. And I don’t like it being forced on society or to schools. It’s my job to raise my kids and explain certain things to them about life. It’s my job to teach my kids right from wrong not the schools and certainly Not organized groups who push their beliefs on kids who don’t even understand some of what they are selling. If they want play politics in schools, then I demand the 10 Commandments be placed back in schools and government buildings. I demand kids have access to all sides which would include allowing Bible’s back in schools.

I am sure this next statement will #### off a lot of people. At some point you have to take a stand. if the lbgtq community has to have a national organization, local organization’s and groups to push their agenda, in grammar schools, middle schools , HS and college’s to try and teach that their lifestyle is acceptable by God , why do they have to aggressively market their lifestyle. Why do they find it necessary to have all of these parades, protest, a special lbgtq holiday or continue spending millions lobbying our government for equal rights as a man and women. If it’s such a natural lifestyle why is all of the above necessary???

Those of you who agree with how I feel join me and start fighting back. Push our agenda’s in the schools and lobby the government for our side and our beliefs. This WOKE stuff is BS!
I can’t remember a single parade promoting the lifestyle of the traditional family with a mother, father and kids.

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That is a laughable dumb post.


Nov 9, 2022, 8:53 AM

No one promotes it no one teaches it. No one trained it no one grooms it… All that’s happening is instead of people being chastised and depressed and shoved further back in the closet. They are allowed to live their life the same way heterosexuals have.

It would be no different if someone like you were going oh my God I can’t believe all these Black people are on TV and have their own TV shows and have their own net work… Why can’t they just be happy with what we let them have.

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Re: That is a laughable dumb post.


Nov 9, 2022, 9:08 AM

If you don’t know the difference, I can’t help you Sterling.! I don’t see color or sexual orientation until they come marching down the with rainbow colors and sign’s. I have friends of every race as friends and neighbors. They don’t have parades either. Now the NAACP has to have parades and protest to justify their high paying jobs.

I don’t remember any of my friends mom and dad marching in a parade talking about their sex lives in public. What people do behind close doors as long as children or unwilling people are not involved.

Stay at home like most normal families do.

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these kids won't know it until they get out n the real world


Nov 9, 2022, 10:01 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

they're so impressionable and easy to get in college. They'll learn that these social issues are just shiny bait with hidden hooks. They trick you into giving your rights away to help a perceived dispossessed when the real truth of prosperity and progress is found self reliance and personal responsibility. Not in government power. Warnock represents a gov't elite class that will strip you of your rights and are doing it every week. ITs like we're all in the toilet bowl just circling. Trust in God as this is apart of His plan, its just scary that we're living in this time of where everyone is so blind.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 7:34 AM

They have. I love Clemson with all my heart. But my daughter left for Clemson as Conservative, Christian, Bible believing respectful individual.

When she returned home after graduation I found she was very liberal with socialist views and views that contradict God’s words and no longer believe the values her mother and I taught her.

Between the liberal professors with a ratio of 12 to 1 (conservative) professor it no wonder our kids come out of college with these leftist idea’s. It why Hershel Walker did not win Athens. Our kids come out of college brainwashed.

I was taught to always show respect to those older than. My parents, My Grandparents My Aunts, Uncle’s, older cousin’s, if I did not I got my butt kick since I was still living at home and receiving financial assistance from the people mentioned above. But these kids in today’s world will say anything or do anything in front of their older family members. They do not know what the word Respect means anymore.

They think we those who fought in WW I , WW II, Korean War, Vietnam, Mogadishu, Granada,’and the Middle East are out of touch with the realities of the world. I use to listen to my elders . I did not always follow their advice (Something I really wish I had done now). But today’s kids think they know everything. I had one college graduate tell me until people of my generation and those older died off positive socialist changes could not be made. Our Christian Conservative Values are hurting the world. I stopped donating to 2 Universities because I am not going to pay for more liberal socialist to graduate on my $$$$.

2024 is going to be a War! Please for those of you who want to get rid of the Pelosi’s , Schumer’s, Biden’s , and other socialist and communist politicians then the Conservative Republican’s are going to need your donations starting today through Election Day in 24’.

I am very disappointed in many of the results. But I still believe we have an Election Integrity problem in many states. On one state many of the highly Republican voting location had problems with their voting machines. Once again voter fraud is an issue. Several democrats working polls and counting mail In ballots were removed by those who legally over see polling places.

What is wrong with people in my state we had 3,309,000 registered voters. Less than 600,000 voted. IMO polling places should be set up where the elderly can vote.

I told some kids in their 20’s they should try to buy US made products because we were making the Chinese Communist Party wealthy enough to challenge the United States economically and militarily. The Chinese want War with the United States.

Wake Americans before we are no longer the United States. We made some gains but lost some key senate races. I am not rich by any means but if I can make donations to candidates all over the United States. Some excellent people, than I challenge you to do the same. Today is not to late. Liberal millionaire’s and most Hollywood elite are buying elections every time we have an election. George Soros is a dangerous man with millions to send the the socialist liberal Dems. Many Republicans rely on people like you and me.

Go Republicans in 2024!

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 7:45 AM

It sounds as if your daughter learned to think for herself in college. Good for her.

People complaining about rigged elections are the same kind of people who blame refs when they lose games. As Trumpublicans said in 2020, "you lost, get over it."

If you think it is going to be "war" maybe you can tell me what it was when the seditionists stormed the Capitol to prevent the peaceful transition of power on 1/9/21?

The hypocrisy is dumbfounding.

And if you want a government controlled by religion, move to Iran.

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Well said.***


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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 7:55 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens
Nov 9, 2022, 7:45 AM
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It sounds as if your daughter learned to think for herself in college. Good for her.

People complaining about rigged elections are the same kind of people who blame refs when they lose games. As Trumpublicans said in 2020, "you lost, get over it."

If you think it is going to be "war" maybe you can tell me what it was when the seditionists stormed the Capitol to prevent the peaceful transition of power on 1/9/21?

The hypocrisy is dumbfounding.

And if you want a government controlled by religion, move to Iran.

what is dumbfounding is reading your post.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 8:34 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

I can see how that pulse originated.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 8:56 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

I dub thee strawman master

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 9:00 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]


It sounds as if your daughter learned to think for herself in college. Good for her.

People complaining about rigged elections are the same kind of people who blame refs when they lose games. As Trumpublicans said in 2020, "you lost, get over it."

If you think it is going to be "war" maybe you can tell me what it was when the seditionists stormed the Capitol to prevent the peaceful transition of power on 1/9/21?

The hypocrisy is dumbfounding.

And if you want a government controlled by religion, move to Iran.




Bow before strawman master

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 9:43 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

I think for myself too. But I have spoken with numerous parents who said they kids came back brainwashed. Are they really learning to think for themselves or are the thinking the way liberal college professors want them to think.

There are 2 many stories I have heard from other parents and some of the kids I have met several recent graduates who did not show me any respect. I my daughter disrespected you and anyone else. I would take disciplinary action with her and she would apologize too you.

As long as she lives in my home and reply’s on me financially. I deserve her respect.

Respect, Character, Integrity, Christian Faith, Honesty and Love are all words our kids she be taught everyday at home, at church ( that’s your choice) at school up to a point. Ultimately it up to me and her mom to teach our kids.

When I am paying for her education at Clemson yes I have a say so in what she does that could have an impact on my life financially and legally.

When she becomes totally self sufficient she no longer has to answers to me. She then will answer to God and the legal system.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 10:14 AM

Your posts really just highlight the problem with the Republican Party at this point.

Your biggest concern is controlling others and not what is right or wrong.

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Nov 9, 2022, 10:05 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

loved him but because they hated the truth. I feel like we live in that territory these days.

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God what a moron exclamation


Nov 13, 2022, 3:58 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

I can show you plenty of black thought leaders and academics that think Wolk and all the other nonsense the left believes in is garbage! And these are liberal Democrat academic Black people. It’s BS! It’s communist Marxist propaganda! Do your homework. That’s exactly where all of this comes from. France in the 1960s. Postmodernism. Then it came to American universities in the 70s.

His daughter is not thinking for herself she’s brainwashed! She has been indoctrinated! And it’s happening today starting in kindergarten in schools all across America! This has been proven and well documented!

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FYI


Nov 13, 2022, 4:02 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

Look up hypocrite in the dictionary and you’ll see the Democrat donkey next to it! Nothing to laugh loves more than hypocrisy and double standards! They wrote the book on it!

And I hate to break it to you but Hispanics or Latinos and Black people are more Christian and evangelical than most white Christians.

America was in fact founded on Christian values and principles it’s in the writings of the founding fathers which is why it’s on our money and why you put your hand on the Bible when you’re sworn in as an elected official and many other places.

There absolutely positively is no separation of church and state in the constitution. The founding fathers were brilliant and if they wanted that they would’ve been very specific. Not one obscure little phrase. Separation of church and state what is a progressive court packed by FDR.

The constitution says the legislature, not the government, the legislature, shall not create a state sponsored church. In other words, the American legislature cannot create and fund a church the way England created the church of England because the king wanted to divorce and the pope wouldn’t give him one!

The constitution does not create separation of church and state. It simply says there is to be no national religion created by the government.

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My kids went to Clemson, one votes rep one votes dem..


Nov 9, 2022, 7:47 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

they both are Christians (real ones, not radical evangelicals) and attend church. Neither cares for Trump.

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My kiddos fall into that same category.


Nov 9, 2022, 8:49 AM

Trump is very polarizing. He is sometimes deliberately condescending, and he is largely unapologetic for it, which tends to rub some people the wrong way. Let's be honest, there are times when he can be a total a$$ and he goes out of his way to do so. While he was a much better President than Biden, people simply don't like him as a person. On that basis, it will be challenging to unify the country or swing those independent votes if Trump were to win the Republican nomination. There are leaders and then there are those who lead and inspire those around them. People follow those who lead not because they have to, but because they want to.

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Re: My kiddos fall into that same category.


Nov 9, 2022, 11:09 AM

I know a lot of people who voted for him the first time around. I spent three years grateful that we didn't actually face any crisis on his watch because he would be incapable of managing. So his stupid stuff was relatively benign - let's buy Greenland! I love Kim and other strongmen. But then along came COVID - still remember him saying "it's only twelve people and it will be gone in a couple of weeks." What a sh!tshow. Even the part he handled well - pouring money into pharmaceutical companies to develop vaccines - he undermined by not messaging the importance of taking the pandemic seriously.

But when the election came around we saw the true Trump, sowing doubt in how our elections work, encouraging mobs to storm the Capitol building to prevent the peaceful transition of power. The damage he did to the democracy is hard to overstate. The guy spent his four years in office saying that if he loses reelection it is because the election was rigged. When he campaigned before that with the stupid "lock her up" nonsense and claiming that election was rigged (until he won). He spent the eight years before that falsely claiming that President Obama was not a native born American - not simply disagreeing with Obama policies, but sowing doubt in the legitimacy of the Commander-in-Chief.

I expected the typical mid-term reversal, especially in light of the pocketbook issues people are facing, even if those are beyond the control of the party in power. But I am reassured in knowing that there are still a lot of people who want to protect the democracy. Still, it is crazy to me that election deniers were elected to 200 seats in the House, Senate, and statewide races, nationwide.

He's been teasing an announcement on November 15. I would hope he would see the writing on the wall after yesterday. And surely Ron DeSantis is feeling emboldened for a run - I would think he could take on Trump (after yesterday). The problem for the GOP that started in 2008 was that they ran themselves as an anti-Obama party, obstructionists, without a policy agenda. So the 2016 primaries came along and you had a dozen nobodies who didn't really stand for a stated agenda and one TV reality show star. The TV guy won and the GOP still hasn't articulated a governing agenda.

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Wow! A lot of lies propaganda


Nov 13, 2022, 4:05 AM

Misinformation and disinformation and your post!

And Trump did not encourage anyone to riot or protest. The FBI was more involved in that than Trump was! Trump said be loud be heard but also be peaceful!

And nothing on January 6 was anywhere near as bad for America as more than two years of BLM and antifa and more than two years of brain dead insanity by the left when it comes to Covid!

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Can’t stand Trump the person, but love the policies.


Nov 13, 2022, 4:09 AM [ in reply to My kiddos fall into that same category. ]

I vote for policies. Not people.

And let’s be honest people on the right even Christians love Trump because they’re tired of voting for neocons, that 1/3 of the republican party known as the establishment wing, The Mitt Romney‘s, The Lindsey Graham‘s, and all the other neocons that say they’re gonna do something but never do because they’re big government liberals at heart. Conservatives and libertarians are tired of that and tired of seeing the left control everything especially destroying the culture and our schools and they sign Trump a fighter! Someone that was going to give the big middle finger not just to the Democrats but the establishment wing of the republican party! That’s why they love the guy. Because he’s a fighter and wants to tear down the establishment on both sides. And as a radical libertarian I can get behind that regardless of how I feel about him as a person.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 7:54 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

very well said 86.

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Thank you Peter the Hermit


Nov 9, 2022, 8:28 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

"The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress."

(From a sermon preached by Peter the Hermit in A.D. 1274)

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 8:23 AM

Herschel was a great football player, but as a politician, is that the best the GOP could come up with? The Georgia senate seat was ripe for the picking. they needed a better candidate.

Go Tigers!

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 8:26 AM

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens
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Herschel was a great football player, but as a politician, is that the best the GOP could come up with? The Georgia senate seat was ripe for the picking. they needed a better candidate.

Go Tigers!

could care less what kind of candidate was running. he is running against a communist. never thought i would see it in georgia.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 8:41 AM

Don't get me wrong. If I lived in Georgia I would have voted for him. I can't imagine how you vote for Kemp and Warnock. I'm not coming down on Herschel. I feel the same way about Pennsylvania. There has to be better qualified GOP candidates.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 11:39 AM

I think it is fascinating how that played out. I think people support Warnock because they know he is serious and has served two years in the Senate, and isn't this unstable, knuckleheaded, bi-polar.

I think the "swing voters" who could easily vote for Warnock in that context may lean conservative (not talking the Trumpist crazies) but they saw in Kemp a Governor who stood up against someone trying to steal an election. Kemp may be conservative, but he showed some strong ethics there. And it also helps that he did that while there are a lot of fights over voting rights going on. He looks authentic in his behavior. It makes it easier for him to be more conservative because people won't question his motives. If Kemp had tried to help Trump it would have helped Abrams narrative in the campaign.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 8:55 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

Where did you people get your ####### education? Apparently, none of you know what a communist is…

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 9:03 AM

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Where did you people get your ####### education? Apparently, none of you know what a communist is…





Anyone just Right of the DNC

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 3:51 PM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

They aren't too strong with "socialist" or "Marxist," either.

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First she’s not even remotely qualified.


Nov 13, 2022, 4:13 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

Second she’s a complete idiot.

Third she is in fact an authoritarian.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 10:38 AM [ in reply to Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens ]

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could care less what kind of candidate was running. he is running against a communist. never thought i would see it in georgia.




I don't think that "communist" means what you think it means.

(I believe you also mean "couldn't care less.")

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maybe he'll send his diploma back?


Nov 9, 2022, 8:57 AM

as if he had one :)

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Majority Green Taylor stayed in office so Georgia is


Nov 9, 2022, 9:04 AM

Keeping its quota of ignorant, lying, Qanon, Trump butt licking, racists scum bags…


Message was edited by: STERLING®


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Re: Majority Green Taylor stayed in office so Georgia is


Nov 9, 2022, 3:50 PM

But Lauren Boebert lost! WOOT!

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are you sure about that? She is only 62 votes behind


Nov 9, 2022, 6:31 PM

and has been gaining steadily

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She’s going to win!


Nov 13, 2022, 4:15 AM [ in reply to Re: Majority Green Taylor stayed in office so Georgia is ]

She’s in the lead I think by almost 2 points now with almost all of the votes counted.

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She’s actually not radical or extreme.


Nov 13, 2022, 4:14 AM [ in reply to Majority Green Taylor stayed in office so Georgia is ]

She’s very authentic and has been spared by the media like all conservatives and libertarians.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 9:13 AM

Not being able to score on Clemson is what hurt him.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 9:48 AM

If you think Herschel Walker deserves to be a senator, that is sick!

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compared to Warnock tho..you're missing the point i'm afraid


Nov 9, 2022, 10:08 AM

this was about Warnock not Walker. Run Barney Fife for all I care.. just get the globalist elites out of power.

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Re: compared to Warnock tho..you're missing the point i'm afraid


Nov 9, 2022, 10:42 AM

Globalist elite?

He's a pastor who grew up poor, the son of Pentecostal ministers. Not a millionaire athlete. Where do you get this stuff?

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obviously not talking specifically about Warnock; but the


Nov 9, 2022, 1:45 PM

democratic majority in the senate which work hand in hand with the president to create legislation that sets the course for the future. Which just as ole Joe has stated that be wants to build back better which is a campaign slogan used by the World Economic Forum which at their core put forth statements about the Great Reset...which if you're still not sure about what that is.. do some research.

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Re: obviously not talking specifically about Warnock; but the


Nov 9, 2022, 3:53 PM

I bet forty years ago you were big on Trilateral Commission conspiracies!

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Good Lord you are ignorant and brainwashed.


Nov 13, 2022, 4:19 AM

FYI conspiracies happen every day. The government is involved in tons of conspiracies and have been for a very long time. A conspiracy is simply to people plotting in private or secret to do something illegal or nefarious. Conspiracies happen every day! I love the way people like you try and use conspiracy as some way of describing people. Only an idiot would deny that they are conspiracies. But then you clearly are left-wing so you’re brainwashed and will believe anything the left tells you!

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Herschel Walker grew up dirt poor and earned every penny.


Nov 13, 2022, 4:17 AM [ in reply to Re: compared to Warnock tho..you're missing the point i'm afraid ]

Warnock is a slumlord that takes advantage of his own people! he’s a far bigger scumbag than Herschel Walker. He’s also a far left radical!

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Yeah darn those global elite born and raised on georgia


Nov 9, 2022, 2:32 PM [ in reply to compared to Warnock tho..you're missing the point i'm afraid ]

church pastors...

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 10:07 AM

This race and the one in PA remind me a lot of Trump vs Hillary. Hard to believe this is the best we have to choose from.

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unfortunately the best aren't dumb enough to run


Nov 9, 2022, 10:11 AM

We're living in an increasingly violent, disrespectful, world that will terrorize their families and ruin their livelihoods. The internet now whips these people up into a frenzy and its just not worth the hassle for the best.

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Re: unfortunately the best aren't dumb enough to run


Nov 9, 2022, 10:21 AM

seriously... who in their right mind would want to put themselves and their families through all that goes on these days?

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Re: unfortunately the best aren't dumb enough to run


Nov 9, 2022, 10:37 AM [ in reply to unfortunately the best aren't dumb enough to run ]

Yep. Same reason no one wants to be a police officer or teacher these days too. And a lot of the best ones that have been there a long time are leaving.

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Re: Herschel lost votes in Athens


Nov 9, 2022, 11:16 AM

Drive into Clemson on 93 . when you get past the 76 overpass, all the pole mounted signs tout TITLE 19 . Every one.

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