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Is there any reason we shouldn't be winning like Virginia?
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Is there any reason we shouldn't be winning like Virginia?


Feb 28, 2013, 11:14 PM

I try not to overreact. I have heard some good things about the direction Brownell is taking the b-ball team. But what makes Virginia better than us? Should we not expect more from our team?

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They are in a recruiting hotbed there in Charlottesville


Feb 28, 2013, 11:16 PM

;)

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Re: They are in a recruiting hotbed there in Charlottesville


Feb 28, 2013, 11:18 PM

Stuff like that I needed to hear. Thanks for the reply. That does make sense and a difference.

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I'm kidding. Theoretically they could pull from the DC area


Feb 28, 2013, 11:26 PM

which is a hotbed, but they don't. Joe Harris is from Washington, the state. Akil Mitchell, the second leading scorer is from Charlotte. Geographic location is not why they are better.

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Location certainly doesn't hurt, neither does their $ and


Feb 28, 2013, 11:42 PM

their Tradition...

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Re: Is there any reason we shouldn't be winning like Virginia?


Feb 28, 2013, 11:18 PM

they are winnng due to the new arena. ;)

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Feb 28, 2013, 11:21 PM

I thought I had heard about a new arena. Just wondering how much that would help us as we considering remodeling Littlejohn or getting a new place. That might be a big difference maker.

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Re: Is there any reason we shouldn't be winning like Virginia?


Feb 28, 2013, 11:21 PM

because we can't shoot,rebound or make foul shots

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Virginia has a better talent base, better facilities, and a


Feb 28, 2013, 11:22 PM

better Trophy Case...Why shouldn't they be doing better?

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The talent base isn't that much better than ours, besides


Feb 28, 2013, 11:31 PM

their best players aren't from Virginia.

They have better facilities, but that's their choice and our choice. No reason we can't do something about that.

They have a better trophy case. True, but we gotta start somewhere. Let's commit to changing that.

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So the state of SC has the same amount of D1 players as the


Feb 28, 2013, 11:40 PM

DMV? Nope, not close...We can't afford their facilities or we would have them...and the Trophy Case is what it is...

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If we accept all of that, and/or don't commit to changing it


Feb 28, 2013, 11:58 PM

then we have conceded defeat and accepted mediocrity in basketball. I'm not ready to roll over just yet and say we can't compete.

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I'm not ready to roll either, I just have a realistic view


Mar 1, 2013, 12:00 AM

of the obstacles in our path...

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Again, of UVA's top 7, only 1 is from the state of Virginia


Mar 1, 2013, 12:17 AM

while one is from MD. The rest have come from well outside their locale. Their success can't be attributed to the available local talent, so that is not a reason for them being better than us, and it's not unrealistic to think that should not be holding us back either.

I'm not sure it's unrealistic either that we could have better basketball facilities, even if we don't have as much $$$ as UVA.

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We have competed, and we'll compete at an even higher level


Mar 1, 2013, 12:01 AM [ in reply to If we accept all of that, and/or don't commit to changing it ]

..Once we get older and deeper.

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Age and depth don't matter...


Mar 1, 2013, 12:03 AM

if you can't put the ball in the basket. Clemson desperately needs somebody that can stretch the floor.

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More confidence will help. More players will help.


Mar 1, 2013, 12:26 AM

Age and depth.

We're young and not very deep. In fact we're younger and thinner than anyone in our league.

Confidence is one of the biggest keys to the game of basketball. Confidence when you're younger is usually not as high as when you're older. You need confidence to shoot a basketball. Guys usually improve as they get older and gain experience. In most any walk of life really. Then, when individuals gain confidence, then so does the team as a whole.

Depth is nice to have too. It's nice to have some older guys, who have been around the program and the coach for 3 and 4 years. Everyone in the ACC has more of those guys than us.

When we can fill up the roster with additional talent, have more balanced classes, ,gain experience and confidence, then we will be a much better basketball team.

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Re: Is there any reason we shouldn't be winning like Virginia?


Feb 28, 2013, 11:34 PM

I think it has something to do with Thomas Jefferson and pergolas. Obviously we can't out recruit that.

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Clemson doesn't have a Joe Harris...


Feb 28, 2013, 11:36 PM

He shoots, rebounds, blocks shots and can handle the ball. He's also 6'6".

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Feb 28, 2013, 11:48 PM

Some of it may just be the Virginia coach has been there longer (I think). Be interesting to see if we're still seeing this same thing next year.

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UVA is older and deeper.


Feb 28, 2013, 11:58 PM

They have 2.5x as many juniors and seniors, and they have 5 more players on their active roster than we do. We have 13 total players on the roster, 11 of which are freshmen and sophomores with two of them out for the season. We got whipped at UVA, but we whipped them in Clemson.

It will be neat to see the improvement as we add some depth and get older.

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In terms of scoring and minutes played, UVA's top 7


Mar 1, 2013, 12:06 AM

consists of 3 freshmen, 2 sophomores, and 2 juniors.

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Do their 5 extra players do anything?***


Mar 1, 2013, 12:29 AM



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