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Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry
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Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 7, 2017, 4:12 PM

(This was after the 2013 season)

Scott Hood

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Undeniably, the new contracts recently given to Steve Spurrier and Clemson coach Dabo Swinney signal a historic and dramatic shift in the dynamics of the heated Palmetto football rivalry.

Clearly, Spurrier was being rewarded in part for USC's stunning success against Clemson over the past five years when the Board of Trustees last week unanimously approved to increase his yearly salary to $4 million and extend his contract through the 2018 season.

Until USC beat the Tigers, 31-17, in late November at Williams-Brice Stadium for their 18th straight home victory, the Gamecocks had never beaten Clemson five years in a row.

Now they have.

For that reason, the eye-opening numbers of Spurrier's deal are hardly surprising or shocking considering the amount of money the Gamecock football program currently generates, and that the HBC has introduced two essential components that were missing from USC when he accepted the job in 2005 - consistent winning and coaching stability.

Swinney's eight-year, $27.1 million deal, on the other hand, raised eyebrows throughout the Palmetto State and beyond, and was met with a mixture of happiness (he won 11 games in 2013) and trepidation (wait, he gets a large raise even though he's lost five straight games to USC and is 0-4 against the Gamecocks and Florida State in the past two years?) among Clemson supporters.

Considering the circumstances, the lengthy and lucrative terms of Swinney's contract are fascinating for one simple reason - Danny Ford, Ken Hatfield, Tommy West and Tommy Bowden, Clemson's four previous coaches, would have never survived losing five straight games to the Gamecocks.

Had that happened, they would have been tossed through the exit door by an angry and disgusted Clemson fan base.

So, what has changed? Well, everything.

Back in the 1980s and 90s and extending into the early 2000s, Clemson dominated the rivalry and most years was clearly the superior team. In fact, USC won just four times in an 18-year stretch from 1988-2005 as the Gamecocks struggled in transitioning from being an independent to SEC membership.

But the tables have turned.

So, why did Clemson ink Swinney to a lucrative long-term extension despite five straight double-digit losses to the Gamecocks?

In my opinion, the answer boils down to five words: Clemson athletic director Dan Radakovich.

If you're old enough to remember, Radakovich was a senior associate athletic director and chief financial officer for the USC athletic department under Mike McGee from 1994-2000 before leaving to become the AD at American University before Lou Holtz's second season as head football coach.

How long will both Steve Spurrier and Dabo Swinney be coaching USC and Clemson, respectively?

During Radakovich's six football seasons at USC, the Gamecocks compiled a woeful 23-43-1 record under Brad Scott (1994-98) and Lou Holtz (1999). Radakovich's final two falls in Columbia were tarnished by the infamous 21-game losing streak that made the Gamecocks a national laughingstock until the nightmare mercifully ended in the 2000 season-opening win over New Mexico State.

Happily, the USC football program is about 1,000 light years ahead of where they stood in the late 1990s, the lowest rung of the SEC ladder. This past season, the Gamecocks were the second highest-ranked SEC team in the final AP and Coaches polls, even finishing ahead of Alabama, a treasonous thought six months ago.

Nobody comprehends USC's remarkable ascension better than Radakovich. First and foremost, he is a numbers guy, so he realizes greatly improved finances are a major reason for USC's surge (42-11 mark in last four seasons) towards the top of the polls.

Consider: in Radakovich's final academic year at USC (1999-2000), the USC athletics department produced total revenues of about $35 million and received from the SEC office a distribution of $8.2 million from the SEC office.

Thirteen years later, USC athletics generated revenues of $90.49 million and was given a check for $22.35 million from the SEC office in 2012-13, a nearly 160 percent jump. Where has most of this newfound money gone? Paying for upgraded facilities, of course.

Assuredly, when Radakovich drove through Columbia on his way to Williams-Brice Stadium for the Palmetto Bowl in late November, he marveled at the many USC athletic facilities that didn't even exist a few short years ago - Rice Athletic Center (main administration building), Carolina Stadium, the Dodie and, of course, the enormous improvements to Williams-Brice benefitting players (Crews Facility with weight room and meeting rooms, renovated locker room, players' lounge and medical treatment room, etc.) and fans (video scoreboard) alike.

The next time Radakovich arrives at Williams-Brice Stadium for a USC-Clemson clash in 2015, he'll see the new practice fields and indoor facility dominating the landscape towards the rear of Gamecock Park (f/k/a The Farmers Market) along with the genesis of the pedestrian plaza surrounding the stadium.

Radakovich also realizes the money tree for USC isn't going to be chomped down anytime soon.

Bolstered largely by multi-billion TV deals with CBS and Disney/ESPN, the SEC's total distributions to its member schools has risen dramatically from $73.2 million in 2000 (Radakovich's final year at USC) to $289.7 million last June.

Yeah, I would argue the $50,000 entry fee that USC paid to join the SEC in 1992 has proven to perhaps be the best investment in school history.

And with the SEC Network going on the air in August, the rich will only get richer. Within five to seven years, as the SEC Network, fueled by the most passionate fan base in the nation, undoubtedly grows and prospers within the changing cable and satellite TV universe, the $22 million payment the SEC delivered to USC last June should pale in comparison to future sums.

All those tens of millions of dollars lead directly to three things: better facilities, better recruiting and better coaches.

Spurrier was just given a raise to $4 million per year. Let's assume he coaches the Gamecocks for another five years. How much will his successor earn annually? $5 million? $6 million? Higher? Bet on the latter.

Which means, of course, plenty of big name coaches will eagerly apply for the job when it finally comes open years down the road.

As far as the USC-Clemson rivalry is concerned, Radakovich recognized the handwriting on the wall. College football is a much, much different world than the late 1990s when USC suffered through the ignominious "Dark Ages."

With money gushing from the SEC's oil well, Radakovich knows that gloomy period will likely never be repeated again for the Gamecocks.

Instead, the dark days are gone and now the Renaissance is upon us, and with its arrival a new chapter is being written in the Palmetto State's biggest football rivalry.

After five straight losses to the Gamecocks, Swinney's freshly minted contract proves Clemson views the rivalry from a different perspective than a decade ago when they held the upper hand.

Now they don't.

Once upon a time, Gamecock fans wondered if they would ever beat Clemson two years in a row, let alone five. Now Tiger supporters ponder the same thing as Swinney celebrates his newly inked multi-million deal.

When push comes to shove, Swinney's contract is essentially a concession by Radakovich and Clemson that, in terms of the Palmetto State rivalry, the salad days of past decades are over, and limiting USC to six wins over a 26-year span (1980-2005) will likely never happen again considering the significant financial resources and the superior coaching and administrative leadership available to USC now and in the future.

In short, Radakovich understood Clemson's "USC problem" isn't going away anytime soon regardless of who the Clemson coach is, so he decided to bite the bullet and give Swinney the dough.

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Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 7, 2017, 4:18 PM

Thank you, this was hysterical, as seen in this article, Coots gonna Coot.

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Humorous, informative, highly interesting & dumbfounding too in that


Jun 7, 2017, 4:24 PM

sC won so few games vs Clemson in 25 years..and I didn't remember RAD ever working 4 Coots..just remember him at GT spending them into debt according to some of the Jacket elite.

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Re: Humorous, informative, highly interesting & dumbfounding too in that


Jun 8, 2017, 7:56 AM

Same here Bill!

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Hmmm


Jun 8, 2017, 5:22 PM [ in reply to Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry ]
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...plenty of big name coaches will eagerly apply for the


Jun 7, 2017, 4:21 PM

job when it finally comes open years down the road...

BOOM!

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Re: ...plenty of big name coaches will eagerly apply for the


Jun 7, 2017, 9:00 PM

This absolutely nails it! They wish all that short lived success under Spurlid would continue, but alas, it's vaporized. Gone in a fleeting instant, never to return in our lifetimes (and more importantly, never in their lifetimes.) That is what eats them up inside.

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Hilarious read... Thanks***


Jun 7, 2017, 4:21 PM



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Re: Hilarious read... Thanks***


Jun 7, 2017, 9:01 PM

Yes! It was fleeting! Many of them still thing that Muschamp is the savior they need. They are wrong again.

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Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 7, 2017, 4:22 PM

My, my how quickly things change.

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TL4Heisman


Hall of Fame post***


Jun 7, 2017, 4:30 PM



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"We establish no religion in this country, we mandate no belief. Nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate." ~Ronald Reagan


^^^ Love your cap


Jun 7, 2017, 4:34 PM

And logO!

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Re: ^^^ Love your cap


Jun 7, 2017, 9:03 PM

Me too, except Trump has a better chance at it than Muschamp does at usuc.

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There's just so much fail in this article. It's almost


Jun 7, 2017, 4:42 PM [ in reply to Hall of Fame post*** ]

too good to be true.

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So many coots lapped it up.


Jun 7, 2017, 4:49 PM

Which makes our success that much sweeter today.

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"We establish no religion in this country, we mandate no belief. Nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate." ~Ronald Reagan


Re: Heck, they will fall for anything and will usually


Jun 7, 2017, 7:56 PM

follow the trend. i have, rarely, seen one that could think outside of the box or had the nerve to

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Re: So many coots lapped it up.


Jun 7, 2017, 9:05 PM [ in reply to So many coots lapped it up. ]

This! They still are wondering what the heck happened, and how could it have fallen apart so quickly (or in usuc lingo, how could it turn to crap so quick).

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Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 7, 2017, 4:33 PM

Daggumit he's right, fire Radakovich!

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That article was written after the Orange Bowl victory...


Jun 7, 2017, 4:40 PM

Not only was it 2 years removed from us winning an equivalent number of conference titles to the number achieved in the entire history of their program, it was three (3) weeks removed from us having won the Orange Bowl over Ohio State - the first BCS win of any kind for either program.

For an article that attempted to put the rivalry in a larger context (through lense of economics), the omission of the broader accomplishments of our program - and outside of their success in the rivalry, their lack of accomplishments on the larger stage - definitely reads as a propaganda piece.

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Re: That article was written after the Orange Bowl victory...


Jun 7, 2017, 9:20 PM

It was that, but outside their brief encounter with a degree of success on the football field under Spurrier, the rest means nothing to anybody but them. The baseball, the women's basketball or whatever it was the women did (I really can't remember), the equestrian, and I forget anything else, really are on nobody's radar. That really is what it boils down to. All that secheat $ and nothing of significance to show for it. But, but, but Muschamp will be the savior, even though he gets crickets for his accomplishments at Texas, at UF and AU, and so far at usuc. Really, he seems like the perfect fit. Pardon me while I LMAO.

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After that 4th and 5th win in a row,


Jun 7, 2017, 4:40 PM

the chicken intelligentsia was full of blogs/articles/reality predictions questioning when Clemson might beat usuck on the football field---if ever.

People wonder why the rank and file on fgf is so stupid----its because the people they trust to keep them informed seldom have a clue either. For Scott Hood to speculate that Clemson/Dan Radokovich had thrown in the towel on ever dominating usuck in football again is evidence Hood has no grasp on the true nature of the programs in the rivalry

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Re: After that 4th and 5th win in a row,


Jun 7, 2017, 4:44 PM

most coots don't realize that prior to their 5 year run, they hadn't beaten us in back to back years since 1969.

40 freaking years without winning back to back games against us.

I laugh each time they talk about "things returning to normal" for their football team.

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its obvious all that additional money has led to


Jun 7, 2017, 5:02 PM

better coaching and better recruiting.

usuck set sail on the ship captained by old coaches with checkered backgrounds but with some high points as well.....IMO, Holtz was nearly a total bust in Cola leaving with a bad record and the chickens on NCAA probation. Spurrier (Capt.Ego) started turning their program around at a time when Clemson had gotten rid of a HC and had suffered some recruiting setbacks because of it. Spurrier never actually gave a guano about usuck and had literally extricated himself from recruiting having left it all to poorly qualified assistants...and Spurriers first few years there were little more than a continuation of the Holtz disaster........

Now, hundreds of millions of dollars later, usuck got turned down by their first four coaching candidates to replace Spurrier and wound up with a guy just run off from another SEC school.

And for Hood to suggest that somehow the Holtz debacle was somehow related to Radadovich's years as a FINANCIAL OFFICER in their athletic dept is beyond idiocy

All chickenfans' wishing and hoping to dominate Clemson on the football field is just that---wishing and hoping. There's only a slim possibility that usuck will beat Clemson in the next couple of years---Clemson is too danged good and have better coaches.

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"Next couple of years"...? Try next couple of decades.***


Jun 7, 2017, 11:09 PM



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Re: After that 4th and 5th win in a row,


Jun 7, 2017, 5:03 PM [ in reply to Re: After that 4th and 5th win in a row, ]

One has to believe his crystal ball rolled off the mantle before he read the broken pieces. The spoken or written word can come back to haunt us, sometimes at record speed. With all of those financial resources, they are not getting much bang for their bucks, just a trip to Birmingham.

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Re: After that 4th and 5th win in a row,


Jun 8, 2017, 8:45 AM [ in reply to Re: After that 4th and 5th win in a row, ]

Really, last year was "normal" for usuc FB. I think it will be "normal" there for a long time.

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I can't stop reading and rereading.


Jun 7, 2017, 4:49 PM [ in reply to After that 4th and 5th win in a row, ]

There's just so much in there.

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Somebody wasn't paying attention.***


Jun 7, 2017, 5:00 PM



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'I Cannot Sanction Your Buffoonery'


Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 7, 2017, 5:19 PM

Talk about words coming back to bite you in the behind. I wanted to say ###, but they won't let you say ### on here.

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We are doomed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Jun 7, 2017, 5:40 PM

Might as well quit while we are ahead in the Series!!! Based on that written article, I see no way for us to ever have a successful season, let alone have Football Facilities to compete with that Powerhouse in Cooterville!!!!!!!!

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Doh. I wonder what that fool thinks now.***


Jun 7, 2017, 5:42 PM



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Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 7, 2017, 5:43 PM

+1 for posting this! This article has the funny.

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Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 7, 2017, 5:44 PM

It's funny because they're right back in the 1990s cellar that they swore they'd never see again and it only took 2 seasons after that article was written.

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Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 8, 2017, 8:08 AM

Yep, ONLY TWO SEASONS!!! ??

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How about that Scott Hood's uncanny ability


Jun 7, 2017, 5:50 PM

to analyze things and prognosticate .

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Wonder if this guy has any stock picks?


Jun 7, 2017, 6:07 PM

I would just do the exact opposite and make a fortune!!

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My initial thought to this fine piece of writing...


Jun 7, 2017, 6:14 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oPwrodxghrw

~JKB

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Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 7, 2017, 6:37 PM

If it wasn't for the understanding of how delusional and chest thumping the coots are with a few wins under their belt, I would call BS and say you made all of this up.
But then again, we are talking about uscJr.

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 7, 2017, 6:47 PM

What is so wonderful is .....spurlid walked out on this wreck before the train ever got going!

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Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 7, 2017, 6:45 PM

The end result of Radacovich's time in Cootville is that HE APPARENTLY LEARNED HOW NOT TO RUN A PROGRAM!!!!!!!

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I was formally known as Furious george and have changed my name to match the name I use to call on WCCP radio.


Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 7, 2017, 8:15 PM

New name for Hood- The Pigskin Phorfeit- and no mucking about with my spelling.

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nice find!


Jun 7, 2017, 8:36 PM

turns out Dan Radacovich might be a little smarter than some 2 bit hack blogger, huh???

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Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 7, 2017, 8:54 PM

Brilliant post

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This is why you never write anything for public....


Jun 7, 2017, 9:07 PM

If you have something stupid to say, you post it during a Clemson Baseball game on TNET....

Thought everyone knew that - jeez..

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Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 8, 2017, 5:43 AM

Glad to see them ani up the 6,000,000 a year for all those big name coaches their program attracted with all those state of the art facilities they have down there in cookooland.
Haha

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Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 8, 2017, 7:24 AM

"...the salad days are over." LOL...my sides hurt. Chicken salad's as good as ever and will remain on the menu for a long time to come! ;)

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Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 8, 2017, 7:32 AM

When push comes to shove, Swinney's contract is essentially a concession by Radakovich and Clemson that, in terms of the Palmetto State rivalry, the salad days of past decades are over, and limiting USC to six wins over a 26-year span (1980-2005) will likely never happen again considering the significant financial resources and the superior coaching and administrative leadership available to USC now and in the future.

In short, Radakovich understood Clemson's "USC problem" isn't going away anytime soon regardless of who the Clemson coach is, so he decided to bite the bullet and give Swinney the dough.


this was my favorite part of it. I guess the salad days are back. LOL

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Easily the best line:


Jun 8, 2017, 7:30 AM

"plenty of big name coaches will eagerly apply for the job when it finally comes open years down the road."

HAHAHAHAHAAH

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Re: Boy, Cockstradomus had me rolling by the 2nd paragraph!


Jun 8, 2017, 7:32 AM

this is good stuff

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My favorite post since I've been on Tigernet!


Jun 8, 2017, 7:55 AM

Coach Swinney and A. D. D'rad should have framed copies of this for their home and office!
I'd like to say this may easily be the one of the most entertaining articles I have EVER read!
EXTREME ENJOYMENT!

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I've read this 3x now and can't stop laughing***


Jun 8, 2017, 8:14 AM



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This comes as no surprise to us living in Columbia..


Jun 8, 2017, 8:47 AM

We have heard for years from Coot radio, writers, and fans how."Clemson has been left behind!". We heard it when they joined the SEC: we heard it when they got Holtz: we heard it when they got Spurrier: we heard it when they won five in a row. Their problem is that Clemson seems to ignore this inevitability and continues to win football games and more prestigious bowls than they do, and has now won a National Championship which mystifies them since they are the better program in their minds. They still cannot possibly understand why football coaches didn't jump at the chance to coach at their great SEC program two years ago. It is all a defense mechanism for mediocrity and a symptom of "little brother syndrome".

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Re: Incredible Read from Gamecock Central on Dabo and Rivalry


Jun 8, 2017, 5:37 PM

I had to copy and save that for a little dirtpecker I have in mind

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Go Tigers! Once A Tiger Always A Tiger


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