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I hate a realtor
Mar 23, 2021, 11:11 AM
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Inspection report is in. Because I didn't pay for it it went to the realtor. Fine.
Called the guy to ask for a copy for my records. "Well I will need to see if the buyers are willing to release it to you"
My response: You understand that I will not fix anything on the home that they request without a copy of that inspection report.
I hate the song and dance of this ####.
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Re: I hate a realtor
Mar 23, 2021, 11:13 AM
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What does the realtor have to do with this?
Mar 23, 2021, 11:14 AM
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Why would you be entitled to a copy of something you didn't pay for?
Don't fix, deal dies. End of story.
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Then oh well. I'm not spending money to fix something
Mar 23, 2021, 11:16 AM
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that is located in a document I can't see.
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Done.
Mar 23, 2021, 11:16 AM
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Move on. Put the sign back in the yard.
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I'm not sure he understands how this works.
Mar 23, 2021, 11:18 AM
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When I bailed on my house deal a few weeks back, owner wanted a copy of the report. I told their realtor that for $500, they can have it; that's what I paid for it. They have no right nor expectation of ever seeing the report.
Fbcooch, I wouldn't monkey around here too much. Since the buyer can bail at any time if you fail to fix stuff found in the inspection report, they are driving the bus now.
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What keeps them from saying "well the inspection
Mar 23, 2021, 11:20 AM
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report says that the house needs a new roof so put on a new roof before closing"
and the report never says that?
Sounds like a way to get fleeced.
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Hell I can come up with a list of #### for the house
Mar 23, 2021, 11:21 AM
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I'm buying if the other party never has to see the report.
I'll write my own.
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Per the contract they pay their closing costs
Mar 23, 2021, 11:23 AM
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one of those is the inspection.
I don't have to pay for it.
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Oculus Spirit [80999]
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Would you buy a house you didn't have inspected?
Mar 23, 2021, 11:26 AM
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Not if you borrowed money on it you wouldn't. Most lenders require an inspection.
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### are you talking about?
Mar 23, 2021, 11:28 AM
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I see why you're renting now.
No #### they have to do an inspection
I've read my contract where I must be willing to make repairs or provide money to satisfy them or they can pull out.
I'm saying I'm not making any repairs unless I can see the inspection report too.
The inspection report may not say anything about a roof issue, but because I can't see it, they can say it does and therefore I must repair the roof.
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No, you don't make repairs on a report you cannot see, and
Mar 23, 2021, 11:30 AM
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they can keep you from seeing the report.
This seems reasonable.
Ineligible user® did not let the owner see the report but he did not go through with the purchase. That is his right as the owner of the report. Had he continued with the contract and wanted something repaired, he probably would have had to produce the report.
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Maybe, if it had been enough value to negotiate over.
Mar 23, 2021, 11:34 AM
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In my case the floor joists were rotted, and I wasn't into tearing up the kitchen and a bathroom and rebuilding it all, even if they had come off the repair costs.
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Yeah, that is a biggie. When we sold, the report said that
Mar 23, 2021, 11:37 AM
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the ceiling joists had been structurally compromised with the installation of the attic access. We were the third owners of the house and this had never been an issue. I thought it was a big deal but we brought out a contractor who looked at it and said that it was fine with how they boxed in the attic access. It ended up being a non-issue, but I sweat bullets for a couple days.
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Does it have a roof issue? If you feel it doesn't, get an
Mar 23, 2021, 11:32 AM
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inspector to inspect it and say that it doesn't. That shifts the burden off of you and onto the inspectors.
You can diss me all you want about renting; I'm not the one worrying about having to repair a POS in the middle of nowhere to get out from underneath it.
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Maybe you have them make copies of the report, and then cut
Mar 23, 2021, 11:32 AM
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out the section of the report that pertains to your specific engineering failures in that part of the home.
Offer them $75.00 with the knowledge that you'll have to pay the full hundy.
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This. Ask them nicely to send pics of the damage.
Mar 23, 2021, 11:35 AM
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Demanding what they do and don't do is a short path to having a for sale sign in the yard again.
And then later, still having to fix whatever is wrong with it anyway.
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The inspection report is another negotiating tool.
Mar 23, 2021, 11:24 AM
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If the house DOES need a new roof, and you decide you don't want to pay for it, you negotiate with the buyer how much its worth to you, and how much they want the house.
In the legally binding contract you also signed, I'm sure it says that if you don't agree with the repair addendum, they can walk, with their earnest money.
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Yeah no ####. But how am I to negotiate using a document
Mar 23, 2021, 11:25 AM
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I'm not allowed to see?
I know how the contract is set up. But I'm not making repairs to a house based on a report that only one party is allowed to view.
That doesn't make sense.
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Oculus Spirit [80999]
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Why is this so hard to comprehend?
Mar 23, 2021, 11:29 AM
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Sure there will be some stuff in there that is fluff; that's what the inspector gets paid to find. But usually, especially in an older house, there will be something legit, too.
Are you arguing what they want to fix doesn't need to be fixed, or just that you don't want to do it?
I walked from my last deal when I found rotted out floor joists. I would have been in $50k-$75K additional to get it fixed. I wasn't into buying a $700K project, so I didn't even try to negotiate as i knew they wouldn't come down that much. I walked.
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I'm arguing that they MAY not approve of releasing the
Mar 23, 2021, 11:34 AM
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inspection report to me.
If that does occur, I will not be repairing anything on the house.
So, to break it down. Here's the scenario's
1. They say that they are good with the house as is per the report and we can move on. Fine, I don't need to see the report.
2. They release the inspection report to me. Request fixes and we negotiate. Fine with this as well, but I have to see the report first.
3. And what I'm referring to in this thread: They refuse to release the inspection report to me, then ask for me to make repairs to the house. This is a no go because I would not have the report to go off of.
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If they want new GFCI recepctacles, I doubt I'd ask for a
Mar 23, 2021, 11:37 AM
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report. If they want a new roof, ask. They may, or may not show it to you. It's their perogative.
Start being a dinck of a seller, and there is another house for sale around the corner.
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He is REALLY jumping the gun and getting killed here
Mar 23, 2021, 11:54 AM
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because he doesn't even know what repairs there are or might be, he just knows that there is a report and he does not have access to it.
There could be minimal stuff in there, it could be MAJOR stuff in there, they haven't asked for anything yet and it is absolutely killing him so he came here and got roasted.
However, in the event that they ask for some major repairs, I agree that he needs to see a copy of the report.
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Your last sentence is exactly it.
Mar 23, 2021, 11:55 AM
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The guy gave me 3-4 things he's going to list in his report as "recommendations"
They come in with "well the report said you have to fix A and B (that dude didn't tell me about) then I will need a copy of the report before I agree to fixing it.
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Yea. Wait and see. I do think you are putting the cart in
Mar 23, 2021, 11:59 AM
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front of the horse. It ain't an issue until they come back with what they want fixed. At that point, let's see the inspection report.
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Yeah those 3-4 things he mentioned I can fix in an afternoon
Mar 23, 2021, 12:02 PM
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So if they come back with, hey the items 1-3 he mentioned, if you'll fix those real quick, send me a picture of it fixed we can move on then IDGAF about the report.
If they want items 1-3 fixed by a licensed contractor (which would be smart on their part) then I want to see the report.
If they mention anything that was not mentioned by inspector, I want to see the report.
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pro tip
Mar 23, 2021, 12:44 PM
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if they ask for them to be fixed by a license contractor, counter with you fixing them yourself and providing proof, instead of going scorched earth over the report.
at least in my last few deals, we always asked as buyers and were always asked by buyers to have it fixed by a licensed whatever.
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Or just throw a couple hundred $$ at them and let them worry
Mar 23, 2021, 1:05 PM
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about it.
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is this still the FBCoach thread
Mar 23, 2021, 1:06 PM
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or we talking about IE selling his place?
can't wait for round 6, the saga of paying $75 to a contractor to close the deal hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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Re: pro tip
Mar 23, 2021, 1:47 PM
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Pro-er tip: Fix them yourself and get your buddy that is a licensed contractor to write you an "invoice".
This is what I...I mean, a guy I know, did.
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Dude you can't afford it.
Mar 23, 2021, 11:59 AM
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Kill the idea, don't sell, and get on with life. You're simply far too poor to sell a trailer right now.
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I'm not saying you are wrong, and it has been a few years,
Mar 23, 2021, 11:23 AM
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but when we sold our house, the we saw the inspection report and were able to address the things that needed addressing. I assume the buyer paid for that report, but to be completely honest, I do not remember.
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When we purchased the house 4 years ago both parties
Mar 23, 2021, 11:24 AM
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got a copy of the report automatically. It was sent to both. We then negotiated on it from there.
Not sure what these mouth breathers are talking about
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That's why you're renting***
Mar 23, 2021, 11:26 AM
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Oculus Spirit [80999]
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You like to keep saying that like renting is a bad thing.
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You do understand I'm not renting a a 2BR apartment for my wife and kids in Florence, right? Do you think I'm renting a house on Isle of Palms because for some reason I couldn't buy another house somewhere else, so I had to rent here?
I sold my house in old Mt Pleasant on purpose, and am renting, here, on purpose. I may stay here for another year, or I may not, and I may (or may not) buy this place (if the owner chooses to sell), or I may or may not buy another house somewhere else, probably not in SC. You don't seem to understand choices. Choices are important to be able to have. It doesn't seem you have many of those.
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Wait, you're RENTING a house on IOP
Mar 23, 2021, 11:57 AM
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one of the most expensive places to live in Charleston area.
When you could be paying half of that rent for a year at a house in Summerville.
And I'm the one making dumb decisions?
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not if he can afford it
Mar 23, 2021, 12:00 PM
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you can't so you wouldnt understand why it works for him.
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He could have saved that additional 800 a month
Mar 23, 2021, 12:14 PM
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for a year to go towards his down payment on the house he's wanting to buy.
Instead he's throwing money in the trash for a year because he wants to be high class living
Which of course you don't get because every part of Michigan is like BFE
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thats cute
Mar 23, 2021, 12:17 PM
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he can afford to be where he wants. And you have no clue where I live, so I wouldnt be throwing out accusations like that one. Ha ha! Its funny though.
You are in a corner and trying to fight yourself out. Not a good spot.
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You live in Michigan, Do I need more information than that?***
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you couldnt even sniff the town I live in
Mar 23, 2021, 12:25 PM
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even a one bedroom apartment price would blow your mind.
you forget I grew up and lived in NC and SC. I know exactly where you are at and I am sorry you have to be there and live in that condition.
Good luck trooper. God Speed.
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You're right. I don't want to sniff it
Mar 23, 2021, 1:07 PM
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living that close to Detroit
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Even back when I was poor I don't recall having this naïve
Mar 23, 2021, 12:18 PM
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of an outlook.
If that torques you, here's one that will blow your mind: The 700K house I was going to buy in Old village last month, I never really planned on living in. I was going to rent it out, so I could stay living over here.
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Pretty sure the renters wouldn't care about floor joists***
Mar 23, 2021, 12:20 PM
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Yes, no one usually cares about major structural issues.***
Mar 23, 2021, 12:21 PM
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If you're not fat you don't need all those floor joists***
Mar 23, 2021, 12:28 PM
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So you were going to purchase a 700k house,
Mar 23, 2021, 12:22 PM
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rent it out. Then go rent somewhere else while renting the 700k house?
Na, you went to buy the house, decided not to, then instead of dealing with a smaller house for a year, decided I'm gonna live on IOP renting for a year and see what happens.
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heh..the house in OV was smaller than this one.
Mar 23, 2021, 12:25 PM
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You know, it's becoming obvious that I can tell you, but I can't make you understand.
Your quality of life must just be chit.
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You probably should have used all of that cash on your taxes***
Mar 23, 2021, 1:08 PM
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Do you really want to keep up this misaligned
Mar 23, 2021, 1:16 PM
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attempted financial character attack?
From where I'm sitting, you don't have much of a bloody stump to stand upon.
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I just want to make sure you stay out of jail
Mar 23, 2021, 1:17 PM
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plus it seems like your tax bill is my refund.
Pay your taxes so my kids can get the trampoline they've always wanted
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Tax tip for you: I doubt you'll be able to deduct "fixing a
Mar 23, 2021, 1:25 PM
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fixing a failed septic system" on next years taxes.
But the good news for you is you won't have to pay capital gains on a home sale taxes. I mean would that even qualify on a section 8?
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Don't know about section 8. But not jumping houses
Mar 23, 2021, 1:26 PM
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every 3 months would exempt me from capital gains taxes.
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Awww, it's pitiful.
Mar 23, 2021, 1:29 PM
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You don't even know when I'm outright, bold faced making fun of you.
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As long as that spot isn't Detroit***
Mar 23, 2021, 1:32 PM
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Oculus Spirit [80999]
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See...choices. You're not getting it.
Mar 23, 2021, 12:04 PM
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I don't want to live in Summerville. I have a choice.
You really don't get that, do you?
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No #### everybody has choices. Some are dumb***
Mar 23, 2021, 12:15 PM
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I don't think *you* do.
Mar 23, 2021, 12:23 PM
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If you don't sell that place you are in, (and if you keep effing around with the buyer and repairs you don't even know what they are, you won't) your only choice is to stay where you are..even if you hate it.
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But if you wanted to continue with the purchase, would you
Mar 23, 2021, 11:26 AM
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not have to show them the report in order to get them to repair what needs to be repaired per the inspection report?
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One would think there are other 40 year old ranch homes
Mar 23, 2021, 11:28 AM
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with "sweat equity" outdoor entertaining areas that are available in the area. Possibly with a more seasoned realtor.
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Exactly my point
Mar 23, 2021, 11:29 AM
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If they look at the report and go, "based on the report we no longer want the house" then fine, I don't need to see it.
But I'm not negotiating based on a document I'm not allowed to see.
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They can ask you to paint the driveway purple if they want
Mar 23, 2021, 11:32 AM
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And you can tell them to pound sand.
I’m sure there’s a dollar amount stipulation in your contract that allows you or them to walk if inspection report reveals an amount of repairs needed over X. At the end of the day it matters more if you’re willing to do the repairs than the source of the repair request.
Post inspection you indicated it needed absolutely nothing of substance so I’m not sure what the big deal is.
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It's like you don't even know me. My mind goes to
Mar 23, 2021, 11:35 AM
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worsests case scenario first
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You know what would help put your mind at ease?
Mar 23, 2021, 11:37 AM
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Buying a copy of that report.
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Re: You know what would help put your mind at ease?
Mar 23, 2021, 11:40 AM
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All we have heard about this past week is all this money he suddenly has and now he acts like his credit cards and bank account are maxed to the limit.
Total story never gets told.
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I have money because I don't waste it getting screwed
Mar 23, 2021, 12:18 PM
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making repairs according to a document I can't see
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Do you even know what they're asking you to fix yet?
Mar 23, 2021, 11:36 AM
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How hilarious would it be if you blow up on these folks and lose the sale when their only ask was replacing a broken GFCI outlet or something?
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Then release the inspection report. Simple solution***
Mar 23, 2021, 11:39 AM
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Also, what makes you think my house has a GFI outlet?
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So you'd legit play hardball over over something like that
Mar 23, 2021, 11:41 AM
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without seeing the report?
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He wouldn't***
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Any inspection report is going to say, even for tightening
Mar 23, 2021, 12:01 PM
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toilet bolts, it requires a licensed plumber to do it. Or a licensed contractor, or structural engineer for what they ask. If it doesn't, the inspector sucks.
When selling a house, I've paid a plumber to clean out a sink drain, a structural engineer to look a sistered roof truss for 10 seconds and say "yep, looks good to me", and a licensed electrician to repair a light switch.
You're sweating the small stuff. If you want to sell the place, and if it's reasonable, do what they ask and move on.
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You really don't get it, do you?
Mar 23, 2021, 12:25 PM
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HE CAN'T SEE IT IN THE REPORT!!!
lololololololololol
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But how does he KNOW it's in the inspection report
Mar 23, 2021, 12:21 PM
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if he's not given the inspection report?
Otherwise, buyer could be making their own personal punchlist to toss at him and call it an inspection report.
I'd bail at someone giving me a list of stuff to fix "from an inspection report" without being able to see the "inspection report".
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We are really separating the Forrests from the LT. Dans ITT***
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Murc prolly nailed it below.
Mar 23, 2021, 12:30 PM
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Granted haven't been following your inspection list carefully. But if there's some BIG things in there, and they demand they be fixed, and won't show you the report, odds are the buyer's loan wasn't approved. Either way, if it's a grand or less I'd just fix the stuff and sell it. But anything big in there, I'd walk if they don't show you the document.
Heck, they probably logged into Tigernet and found about the septic tank lol.
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I am 200% sure the feeling is mutual.
Mar 23, 2021, 11:20 AM
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This poor sap must really need $2500 badly.
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paging our lounge realtor
Mar 23, 2021, 11:21 AM
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I’d like to ask a question, if I may.
Mar 23, 2021, 11:25 AM
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You are attempting to sell a house with a pallet deck, a busted ### septic tank (oh sorry, a fully functioning septic tank with a busted ### lid), and god knows how many redneck repairs done to that place. What was your reasoning for not including an “as-is” clause in the contract and notifying any buyers you would not be making repairs? Did your realtor not suggest that?
Oh wait...
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They paid for it, they get to see it and talk it over
Mar 23, 2021, 11:27 AM
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Thats how it works 100% of the time. Why are you like this?
He told you the things that were in bad shape yesterday, then you went on to explain to us the water damage that he missed in two locations and the septic issue which you said you have no intention to disclose.
You're going to lose this sale.
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I love when some busybody house wife gets into it
Mar 23, 2021, 11:28 AM
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and say they are doing it to "help people." Lady, if you ain't doin' #### for free you ain't doin' it to help people.
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Man, if you actually make it to appraisal, it should be lit
Mar 23, 2021, 11:32 AM
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FBcoach is fukking awesome.
Mar 23, 2021, 11:34 AM
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Love this ####
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Re: Appraisal is tomorrow morning***
Mar 23, 2021, 11:49 AM
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You are the poster child for the phrase
Mar 23, 2021, 11:39 AM
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"Parenting/Adulting doesn't come with an instruction manual"
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Your reaction to this inspection event leads me to believe
Mar 23, 2021, 11:43 AM
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that you KNOW there is something in that inspection report that is going to tank this sale or cost big doll hairs. Guy acted all buddy buddy with you at your house because he ain't working for you. Not his job to disclose a single thing from his report to you.
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Re: Your reaction to this inspection event leads me to believe
Mar 23, 2021, 11:52 AM
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I only release drawings and reports to the people that pay
Mar 23, 2021, 11:46 AM
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for them. You are free to hire your own inspector.
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I guess I'm in the minority for agreeing with you.
Mar 23, 2021, 11:47 AM
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When I tried to move a couple years ago, we got a copy of the buyer's inspection report. They kept insisting that we credit them for $5000 for the AC unit even though there was nothing in the report about it. Since it was a point of contention, the buyer's realtor even paid for an inspection just on the AC unit, which showed it was perfectly fine. The buyer still demanded $5000 or else the deal is off, so the deal was off. My guess is they failed to secure financing for the purchase and didn't want to lose their deposit on my house. This was especially ###### up because we had a contingency offer on a house and we had paid thousands in inspections, septic services, and attorney's fees. In the end we didn't sell and didn't buy. It was a disaster.
That's a long way of saying, I wouldn't do jackshit without them showing documented proof that it needs to be done.
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JFC, Murc`
Mar 23, 2021, 11:48 AM
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are you agreeing with FBCoachSC® ?
are you taking crazy pills ?
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It's possible that it varies from state to state.
Mar 23, 2021, 12:13 PM
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"The contract states that the proper procedure is for the buyer to send a copy of the inspection report to the seller (usually through their agents or attorneys) with a written request of the repairs the buyers want done at the seller’s expense."
https://www.gsreacademy.com/how-to-avoid-a-deal-killing-home-inspection/ How to Avoid a Deal-Killing Home Inspection | GSRE Academy October 2, 2019 Every student who graduates from Garden State Real Estate Academy’s New Jersey real estate licensing class knows this: how to pass the state real estate exam. But so should students from any real estate school. The difference is what legendary radio commentator Paul Harvey would call, “The rest of the story.” Throughout […]
This is a really useful conversation for me since I want to sell this year. Clearly I'll want the inspection report language codified in the contract. I'll also do a pre-sale home inspection to prevent this kind of bull#### before it happens.
https://totalhomeinspectionservices.com/pre-sell-inspection/
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That is a nightmare
Mar 23, 2021, 11:53 AM
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that's why we aren't making a move on the other house until this stuff is settled.
Keep in mind, it's a family house, so they don't care when we move in; before or after closing date.
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Gnu****
Mar 23, 2021, 12:17 PM
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I deserve that. I should read over what I type once or twice***
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In SC at least, I don't think the typical house inspection
Mar 23, 2021, 12:18 PM
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includes anything about HVAC, but I'm not 100% sure. When we bought a year and a half ago, our realtor told us to do a separate HVAC inspection. It was like $100-$150 that I paid, no big deal. Said the system needed to be charged, called my buddy that is in HVAC business, he charged it up and sent bill to the seller. Done, and no one got their panties in a wad.
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Only thing the guy did was take a picture of the tag
Mar 23, 2021, 12:24 PM
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that shows how old, large, etc.
Then he took the temp at the return and at a register to measure the difference.
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more negotiating stuff.
Mar 23, 2021, 12:43 PM
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This is why you don't get to see the report.
Buyer says "HVAC unit is 12 years old, and will need repair soon. I'd like to deduct $3K off the price of the house for that"
You: "Did the inspection show any operating inefficiencies in the unit? If not, we should move on to the next item"
My buddy sold a house out here in December. AC units last about 5-7 years because of the salt air. His worked fine, but was rusted out. Buyer asked for a credit. Friend-of gave them a $2500 credit because he knew the unit was doomed, and buyer would possibly kill the deal over that...on a $1.4 Million sale.
There's a whole science behind about goodwill, negotiating, anchor effects of who offers first etc.
You might want to read up on that.
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Re: more negotiating stuff.
Mar 23, 2021, 12:48 PM
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Did the inspection show any operating inefficiencies in the unit? If not, we should move on to the next item"
And if they say yes and it's actually not in the report (since you're good with trusting that they aren't trying to add stuff) since I can't see it, then what?
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I've bought and sold either 6 or 7 houses (I'd have to count
Mar 23, 2021, 12:59 PM
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moves, and I'm not thinking about it right now) that were my primary residence, and had an interest in a couple more.
I've never seen an inspection report where the inspector noted something the buyer wanted repaired that I didn't know about already, at least something big. Last house they got me on an open ground on a light receptacle, which meant the ground wire wasn't attached. I bought the house new from the builder, so in the 4 years I lived in it, I guess I never used that receptacle.
I've denied things when they get too nitpicky and the buyer was trying to use it as leverage. That's all an inspection report really is.
My sense is you already have an idea of some big stuff that the buyer is going to come back with, and you were hoping to not have to fix it. Roof? Septic? Yeah..I wouldn't try and pass that stuff off, even if you did lie on your sellers disclosure. I mean, if you actually want to sell the house.
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ok, renter***
Mar 23, 2021, 1:16 PM
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iknowright? What could I possibly know?
Mar 23, 2021, 1:20 PM
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I'm just a dumb renter
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You sound chaffed. Let's put this behind us, head to
Mar 23, 2021, 1:23 PM
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clemsonrulez08® house and eat some over cooked bacon
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Chaffed? You have provided me more comedy this morning
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than I have received in weeks, even from clemsonrulez08® posting of his bank accounts.
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Yep, that sounds familiar.
Mar 23, 2021, 12:25 PM
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Last house we sold, almost sold it earlier to a guy who suddenly came up with some crap. We asked and were given the inspection report. It wasn't in there. We said good day to him and put the sign back up. Found out only later his loan didn't go through....
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Only thing I'm willing to fix is what's in the inspection
Mar 23, 2021, 12:30 PM
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report. Period.
If they decide they're good with the home as is, I don't care what's in it.
If they bring up anything that must be repaired, I want to see the report.
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We had stuff they wanted to fix, but we refused because
Mar 23, 2021, 12:36 PM
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it was not a issue with a code violation. Code stuff you have to the fix, the rest is negotiable.
Still, ain't fixing nothing without a report.
Stupid stuff like the oven did not have a childproof tilt over device - ok, code says get it fixed, fix it.
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Interesting point, the company that did the inspection
Mar 23, 2021, 12:39 PM
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dude doesn't check for code issues. Just provides a report and lists issues with the house so that the buyers can back out if need be.
I'm sure there's some code stuff he's including, but he doesn't work for the county in code enforcement
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Good god, man.
Mar 23, 2021, 12:45 PM
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Building codes aren't a secret, and I can bet your inspector knows them.
A lot of retired contractors become home inspectors.
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The buyer did not have a list of code issues, we had our
Mar 23, 2021, 12:49 PM
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guy, who did the repairs, let us know what we had to fix and what was negotiable. We were in a seller's market, so we did only what we had to do. We could have replaced the buyer five times just based on the offers we had in one week of actively selling.
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THis, amigos.. is why you should never buy a house from
Mar 23, 2021, 12:32 PM
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someone selling it themselves.
Sounds like you and realtor are in a pissing contest.
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And he has no idea what he is being asked to repair.
Mar 23, 2021, 12:35 PM
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Can you imagine what the overall shape of the house is in?
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We should set up a lunge gofund me to buy a copy of
Mar 23, 2021, 12:37 PM
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the report.
It'd be worth at least $10 to see what the inspector things of the pallet deck
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Nope. Not yet. If they send the report then there's nothing
Mar 23, 2021, 12:36 PM
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wrong.
If the people refuse to send the report and say everything is good, let's proceed, no problem.
If they refuse to send the report and then ask for repairs, then we have a problem.
We will see later on this afternoon
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Their realtor is probably concerned because there is
Mar 23, 2021, 12:45 PM
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nothing in the report, but you are adamant about seeing it.
Just chill.
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Na he knows I'm an idiot***
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I think a minor clarification is in order for you
Mar 23, 2021, 1:31 PM
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rhetorical question.
Typically, in a transaction such as this one btwn two civilized parties, yes.
In the world of pallet decks and corn field septic systems with school bus drives, prolly not.
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This argument has devolved into one of the dumbest ones in
Mar 23, 2021, 12:39 PM
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Jounge History.
Yall just keep going round and round trying to convince each other and it is quite funny.
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Oculus Spirit [79401]
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The great thing about it is, if I'm not mistaken, he's
Mar 23, 2021, 1:18 PM
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moving to a house with almost equal square footage...So this could be the gift that keeps on giving when they 'run out of room' at the new place.
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Oculus Spirit [80999]
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Gonna have to scour the dumps for all new pallets again***
Mar 23, 2021, 1:21 PM
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Oculus Spirit [78876]
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Man, pallets are easy enough to lift up out of the dirt
Mar 23, 2021, 1:38 PM
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and toss into the back of the Dodge Dakota.
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