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If we lost 2/3 of our football assistants
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If we lost 2/3 of our football assistants


Apr 16, 2022, 3:33 PM

We would think Dabo has a problem.

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Sarcasm?


Apr 16, 2022, 3:36 PM

nm

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Assistants leaving for lateral moves is never good.***

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Re: Assistants leaving for lateral moves is never good.***

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Apr 16, 2022, 5:36 PM

Maybe it's not an administration problem. Hmmmm..... what else could it be???????

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Apr 16, 2022, 3:49 PM

Can’t argue with that. Gotta admit I am also much less familiar with the b-ball assistants though.

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leaving for head coaching positions? weird.

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Apr 16, 2022, 4:08 PM

derp

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Typical response from an


Apr 16, 2022, 4:40 PM

NPC coot.

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We did lose our two most important and highest paid football assistants


Apr 16, 2022, 5:28 PM

and nobody seemed to be concerned about the program. In fact, some people were happy that one of them left.

We then promoted two under qualified coaches to fill those roles and most people cheered it as progress. The rationale was that Dabo has groomed them and that they will be as good or better than who we had.

Of course, losing basketball coaches is always criticized here as a sign that the program is in trouble. Any coaches we hire are immediately doubted as unqualified. The double standard is obvious to those of us who are paying attention.

Carry on…

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Re: We did lose our two most important and highest paid assistants

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Apr 16, 2022, 5:32 PM

Basketball coaches took lateral jobs.

Football coordinators took head coach jobs at major programs. You don’t understand the difference?

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Re: We did lose our two most important and highest paid assistants


Apr 17, 2022, 12:52 AM

And HUGE pay increases.

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The proof's in the pudding


Apr 16, 2022, 5:38 PM

If the coaching staff succeeds, then no one will doubt them.

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Apr 16, 2022, 6:12 PM

Maybe I misunderstood - I thought both assistants went lateral - to include money.
To compare two football coordinators going to major head coaching positions - is not the same - now is it?

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Re: We did lose our two most important and highest paid football assistants


Apr 16, 2022, 7:47 PM

Why don’t you go back to basketball board. Your comments on new assistants are way off base.

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Look, there is no debating that they are under-qualified on paper

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Apr 16, 2022, 8:08 PM

to be coordinators for a power 5 program of our caliber.

The difference is that I have chosen to trust Dabo because he knows them well and has seen them in action every day for a long period of time.

If you’re going to argue that they are the most qualified candidates for their respective positions, you’re just being a homer. That’s your right, but don’t tell me I’m off base.

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The Proof's in the Pudding...


Apr 16, 2022, 8:23 PM

I've said it before... if the coaches succeed, then no one will question their qualifications.
Every successful coach had to start somewhere.

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Dabo was under-qualified on paper...

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Apr 16, 2022, 8:28 PM

Maybe you're reading the wrong papers.

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Apr 16, 2022, 8:05 PM

It’s not a double standards. You’re making a false equivalence and you know it. Only Brad Brownell Bros would even attempt to toe this line.

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Reality check and in all honestly


Apr 16, 2022, 11:31 PM

That’s truly ridiculous. BV and TE are now D1 head coaches (after JS). Where did the basketball assistants go?
Where is the performance of the basketball program……it’s stuck in 12 years of Groundhog Day.

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There is nothing ridiculous about it if the concern is losing important coaches.


Apr 16, 2022, 11:42 PM

That’s how I interpreted the point of the question.

Now if you want to discuss WHY we lost them, then of course the situations are different.

As I’ve said before, we don’t pay our basketball assistants very well. This is why we hire assistants from small programs like Quinnipiac, Kansas City, and Rhode Island. We lose them to similar positions at programs that haven’t been as good as us recently such as Boston College, Georgia, and NC State.

This should make you mad as a Clemson basketball fan. Why aren’t we paying enough to hire power 5 assistant coaches? Why are we losing coaches to power 5 schools that pay them more? This is not what programs that are serious about winning consistently allow to happen.

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So you are saying Neff said he's willing to fund BB...


Apr 16, 2022, 11:47 PM

But didn't offer enough to keep these two assistants?

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According to BB - Dean did not get more pay


Apr 17, 2022, 8:27 AM

So that kind of blows your comment that we underpay assistants. Either that - or so does UGA and NC S. Or, you were inaccurate.

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Re: There is nothing ridiculous about it if the concern is losing important coaches.


Apr 17, 2022, 2:37 PM

Maybe we overpaying the head coach in BB

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Re: We did lose our two most important and highest paid football assistants


Apr 17, 2022, 1:05 AM

Same jobs, different school for BB. Makes a difference.

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Hahahahaha....


Apr 16, 2022, 5:33 PM

Yep, there is definitely a huge problem. I guess throwing money at the problem doesn't work. It's obviously gonna take a new dining room for the team.

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We are yet to throw money at our basketball program.


Apr 16, 2022, 11:43 PM

So please stop acting like we know that wouldn’t help.

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Re: We are yet to throw money at our basketball program.


Apr 17, 2022, 1:05 AM

Democrat? Think spending more money is best?

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Get outta here with that bullcrap!


Apr 17, 2022, 2:20 PM

The head coach is the 38th highest paid coach in America. I'm 100% sure the assistants are rich men as well. The lack of accomplishments in the program has NOTHING TO DO WITH MONEY. Its just your latest excuse, and nobody is buying your horsecrap.

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Lost two coordinators after last season


Apr 16, 2022, 5:39 PM

And Lunatic Fringe lost its collective mind. And was highly critical of who Dabo hired. You can always count in Lunatic Fringe to push the panic button.

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Re: Lost two coordinators after last season


Apr 16, 2022, 5:43 PM

Here’s the fringe clown, right on time!

I’m curious…are these lunatics you are obsessed with the same people on both sides? Or is it a different posse for football and basketball?

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Both left to become head coaches, not taking the same


Apr 16, 2022, 9:31 PM

position they had at Clemson.

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Correct. Clemson football pays its assistants well


Apr 16, 2022, 11:37 PM

so they don’t typically take comparable jobs at other schools. To do so would mean taking a pay cut.

Heck, we paid BV and TE so much that most other head coaching jobs wouldn’t have paid them as much as they were making as coordinators here.

That’s not true for Clemson basketball. Our basketball assistants get pay raises when they take comparavle jobs at programs that have had less success than we have.

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So you know they got pay increases?


Apr 16, 2022, 11:49 PM

And our AD - 2 weeks after telling us we will fully fund basketball - Let these coaches leave without offering them equal or better money?

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