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If our economy continues to tank, I'll know one reason why.
Jun 15, 2022, 2:08 PM
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I'm semi-retired, and I have been to Costco twice this week. Both days around 10:00 a.m.. I figured if I went at that time, it would be a little less crowded, but boy was I wrong! It was no different than mid-day Saturday - it was a madhouse. If I stopped to look at something or put something in my buggy, I'd almost get run over, no matter where I was in the store. A back-up would immediately form behind me, as people frantically tried to get around me. Insanity. Point is, nobody seems to be working - if all of these people have jobs, what are they doing at Costco buying eyeglasses, laundry detergent, and flat screen TVs in the middle of the week? We don't seem to be a very productive workforce. I can only speculate that we are fat and lazy and benefitting from decades of economic growth and expansion.
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Re: If our economy continues to tank, I'll know one reason why.
Jun 15, 2022, 2:10 PM
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once upon a time, you could get stuff done between 10 and 4 and beat the crowds
not anymore
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Market people are mad at the rate hikes.
Jun 15, 2022, 2:23 PM
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And they should be, they're the market people. But they really don't realize what inflation actually IS. Its the MONEY. THE DOLLAR. The thing you use to quantify stock and bond values, and values of gallons of gas, homes, and values of everything.
Zimbabwe is full of trillionaires, for example. And dirt poor.
The dollar comes before all others. Before markets, before everything, because the dollar quantifies everything. This is why you hurt the economy to lower inflation. If you don't, the currency the economy is built on gets hurt, and that's worse. At the end of the day, a dollar is only worth the amount of labor someone is willing to exchange for it.
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Oculus Spirit [97677]
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Flat screen TV's are dropping bigly in price
Jun 15, 2022, 2:11 PM
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As are cell phones. When you have core inflation, the essentials get purchased first.
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Those are probably the people "working" from home***
Jun 15, 2022, 3:00 PM
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Right - not really working.***
Jun 15, 2022, 3:26 PM
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The unemployment rate is a BS metric because it essentially
Jun 15, 2022, 4:01 PM
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ignores all the folks of working age that don't have a job and aren't even looking for a job. The current US labor participation rate is 62.3%. When over 1/3 of working age adults (~100 million people) aren't participating in the work force with a significant portion of those folks on some kind of Government handout - you get a packed Costco during normal weekday "working hours".
What's even worse is that these same folks don't generate any job related tax revenue to the State or Federal Government and in many cases don't pay any Federal taxes at all. If we don't start to reverse the over 25 year downward trend in labor participation we will eventually get to the point where there aren't enough producers to cover the expenses of the takers.
At some point the USA has got to wake up to the reality we have a lot of able bodied dead weight in this country and the best way to encourage them to get into the workforce is to cut them off from the Government funded trough. I find it laughable when the talking eggheads on TV try to justify illegal immigration or our declining labor participation rates by saying that there are just some jobs people in the US won't do. I think these eggheads would be amazed at what jobs able bodied US citizens will do if given the choice between either working or going hungry...
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that's funny, every where I looked, people are working
Jun 15, 2022, 4:41 PM
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it was just like any other day the past year or so.
Lot of companies are short-staffed though, I wonder why?
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so demographics has little to do with it then?
Jun 15, 2022, 5:52 PM
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Does anything particular come to mind about a certain boom in retirees of a certain generation?
Would it be possible that just maybe, maybe, those numbers aren't being filled at the same rate that they are being vacated by said boom in retirements.
Seems like there has to be some reason why people are aging out of the workforce. Are they that tired of working?
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Re: If our economy continues to tank, I'll know one reason why.
Jun 15, 2022, 5:37 PM
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It's very strange. Something doesn't seem right about this whole economy-society thing. We can't find people to work either. Google hires our people away with huge raises.
But my son with a 3.9 GPA in engineering applied (cover letter and all) to 90+ openings that were solid matches, and he got like 4 phone screens. Luckily he landed a good internship, but it was not a sure bet. Lots of his friends had similar experiences.
How many people are making funny money being internet "influencers" and doing podcasts? How many people do you know doing podcasts? I know several - that seems like a tough way to try and make a living.
OTOH it seems like a lot of people have loads of cash. Beachfront houses are being snapped up in a couple days and go for $1M+. Bought 2-3 years ago for $800k, sell today for $1.5M and they get multiple offers.
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I was at Costco around 4:00 today and some
Jun 15, 2022, 8:33 PM
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White trash landbeast was pumping gas in a t-shirt and Brazilian cut panties.
This economy....
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