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Remember Phill Ford Skip Wise
Mar 18, 2015, 9:32 PM
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Clean Dean turned us in.
Phill told Dean what we offered!
Lefty, Maryland
Only Cheat in North Carolina!
Not in ACC Basketball
Now Baseball?
Track
Golf
What's Next?
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Re: Remember Phill Ford Skip Wise
Mar 18, 2015, 10:12 PM
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shame there is not one single video of this guy playing in a clemson uniform on the entire interweb
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Re: Remember Phill Ford Skip Wise
Mar 18, 2015, 10:30 PM
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If you missed Skip live, I am sorry as it was unbelievable.
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Re: Remember Phill Ford Skip Wise
Mar 18, 2015, 10:43 PM
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Now you may Understand
CLEMSON is Football !
Why still in Fike?
Hopefully CLEMSON is moving to Other Sports !
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Re: Best I have ever seen at Clemson***
Mar 18, 2015, 11:08 PM
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You Correct!
Who was his Couches?
Fike or Little John ?
No Uniform Retired and Go Where?
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Re: Best I have ever seen at Clemson***
Mar 18, 2015, 11:08 PM
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You Correct!
Who was his Couches?
Fike or Little John ?
No Uniform Retired and Go Where?
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Re: Without a doubt.***
Mar 19, 2015, 9:32 AM
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Skip Wise is such an incredibly sad story. Did he ever get things turned around?
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Re: Remember Phill Ford Skip Wise
Mar 19, 2015, 12:27 AM
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At the time, (70's) Skip was better than Jordan,although Jordan played in the 80's. The only player I ever saw in the ACC who was better than either was David Thompson in my opinion.
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Re: Remember Phill Ford Skip Wise
Mar 19, 2015, 2:37 AM
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Sir I agree
Hide behind a Vail
CLEMSON
NC needs to Cheat?
Clean Dean
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Re: Remember Phill Ford Skip Wise
Mar 19, 2015, 3:26 AM
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During the recent melt-down and flood of critical remarks and questions regarding Clemson basketball, I've been tempted, myself, to speak of the phenomenon that was Skip Wise. I was in my second year when he first played, and yes, it/he was unbelievable. Unfortunately, he thought so, too, and his tenure in college (and the NBA) was very short lived.... Tree Rollins, one of the best, actually had to develop as a player, but Skip Wise was one of those guys who just "had it", ala Michael Jordan, LeBron James, (and should I say Phill Ford?), etc., - whoever. He was special. Ahhh, although I can't say those were the days, I can say it was a very special time.
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Re: Remember Phill Ford Skip Wise
Mar 18, 2015, 10:39 PM
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The guy looked like he wasn't even trying . He made everyone else on the court look like they were playing in slow motion .
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The best that ever wore our O&W & not even close.***
Mar 18, 2015, 10:42 PM
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Re: The best that ever wore our O&W & not even close.***
Mar 18, 2015, 11:21 PM
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Clemson/Tates didn't get into trouble
Mar 18, 2015, 11:18 PM
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with the NCAA because of Skip Wise....and I'm not aware of Dean Smith "turning Clemson in"....Tates got Clemson into hot water because of his recruitment of Moses Malone.....and it was Moses' uncle --a Terps fan--who blew the whistle on us disclosing that the Tater had offered to buy Moses' family a house--or make arrangements to do so......but we weren't the only school hit with probation for the recruitment of Malone---so did Univ of New Mexico and Univ of Maryland....and ironically, Malone never played one second of college ball...he went straight to the pro's
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Re: Clemson/Tates didn't get into trouble
Mar 18, 2015, 11:30 PM
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I would Reply
I am Afraid you may Throw a Chair at Me.
If you can't be a Football Power
Then be a Basketball Power!
Who doesn't know That.
Love the Thinking!
Smaller is Biggers!
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Skip Wise was on the same level as Michael Jordan.
Mar 18, 2015, 11:28 PM
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Maybe better. And that is no exaggeration, no hyperbole whatsoever. He was that good in terms of talent and impact. What a waste of talent - downright tragic.
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I'm not sure there was enough sample set to make
Mar 18, 2015, 11:47 PM
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comparisons to a lot of great ACC players....but there are some facts we can take to the bank:
Wise was a freshman the same year as Phil Ford....Wise was the first ACC freshman named 1st String All-ACC. Ford's in the ACC HOF.....easy conclusion to draw there
Part of the unbelievable Wise tragedy (and he's still a legend on the playgrounds of Baltimore) was that the Baltimore Claws of the old ABA lured him away from college with the promise of a $450,000 signing bonus....of which he only saw a very small fraction--less than $10,000 if I remember correctly......the Claws folded soon afterwards and were not included in the merger of the ABA and NBA
and then, there were the years of drug abuse, life in the projects, imprisonment.....a long series of incredibly bad decisions.
For those few of us who were lucky enough to see Skip in a Clemson uniform, after the initial silence of disbelief, all our minds danced with the possibilities of an incandescent basketball future....only to have it all burned to crisp with Wise's departure before the semester was hardly over, NCAA investigation, Locke's firing, and probation......
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Just my opinion, of course, but based on watching him for a
Mar 19, 2015, 12:02 AM
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full season against some great ACC competition, he was that good. I don't think we needed a bigger sample size to see that, to see how he compared talent-wise to everybody he played against that season. Granted, he didn't have a career's worth of accolades and accomplishments, but he had the goods for sure.
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As for Phil Ford, he was also ACC Player Of The Year in 78,
Mar 19, 2015, 12:15 AM
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Player Of The Year for all of college basketball in 1978 x 4 (Wooden Award, The Sporting News, National Association of Basketball Coaches, and U.S. Basketball Writers Association), consensus fist team All-American in 77 and 78, second overall pick in the NBA draft, NBA Rookie Of The Year in 1979. Skip was objectively better than him the one year they competed head-to-head.
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Re: Skip Wise was on the same level as Michael Jordan.
Mar 19, 2015, 3:35 AM
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I made the same comparison to MJ in an earlier reply (above.) I saw the guy play and WOW... is just about all I can say. I hear you, and I agree.
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Re: Remember Phill Ford Skip Wise
Mar 19, 2015, 7:34 AM
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I was lucky enough to watch Skip Wise play BBall. Truly a blessing to see that talent in ORANGE. One could only marvel at his moves with a basketball.
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I was in Littlejohn the night Skip put 38
Mar 19, 2015, 8:41 AM
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on the Phil Ford and the tar heels. Though his stay was brief, Wise was the best I have ever seen in a Tiger basketball uniform and one of the saddest stories in basketball as it turned out.
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