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YOUR BALANCE
So I had a chance to watch one early practice session and I
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So I had a chance to watch one early practice session and I


Aug 9, 2022, 4:11 PM

can give you my $0.02's worth.

It's not like this is a secret but good lawd we don't have a punter. I hope this doesn't cost us games but the situation is BAD--like ugly bad. No idea how we got to this point. Maybe we need to recruit one of futbol team's goalies??

We have our 1st scrimmage on Saturday, can't wait to read about who shows up/shows out.

And PRAY for no injuries!!

Go Tigers

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Screw Calford.


My roommate tried to walk-on as punter...


Aug 9, 2022, 4:18 PM

Back in the 80's, my 5' 1" roommate tried to walk on as a punter for Coach Ford's team - said they just ran him up against the big boys for tackling practice until he got the idea. Maybe Dabo needs to have an all-call to the student body again.

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Re: My roommate tried to walk-on as punter...


Aug 9, 2022, 4:20 PM

Very cool. It can't hurt to have an "all hands on deck" tryout.

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Screw Calford.


Re: My roommate tried to walk-on as punter...


Aug 9, 2022, 5:18 PM [ in reply to My roommate tried to walk-on as punter... ]

this was my first thought. Have open treeouts for punter. I’m sure there’s someone out there who could boom it and would love to be a part of the team.

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Who is the soccer goalie?***


Aug 11, 2022, 12:01 PM



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Who is the soccer goalie?***


Aug 11, 2022, 12:01 PM [ in reply to Re: My roommate tried to walk-on as punter... ]



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Maybe its just me....but Punter would have been a good


Aug 9, 2022, 4:28 PM

area to bring in a transfer.

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Re: Maybe its just me....but Punter would have been a good


Aug 9, 2022, 5:16 PM

Are there a lot of punters in the portal?

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Re: So I had a chance to watch one early practice session and I


Aug 9, 2022, 4:37 PM

Go get one from the soccer team

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Re: wouldn’t it be nice


Aug 9, 2022, 5:27 PM

IF we didn’t need great punter?????

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Re: So I had a chance to watch one early practice session and I


Aug 10, 2022, 7:47 PM [ in reply to Re: So I had a chance to watch one early practice session and I ]

Try one from the rugby team !!

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Re: So I had a chance to watch one early practice session and I


Aug 11, 2022, 11:13 AM

EXACTLY my first thought.

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If only there were a database of available players


Aug 9, 2022, 5:26 PM

listed by position who might be able to provide help.

We could call it a “transfer portal,” and players searching for a new home could be found by coaches who have a position of need.

That would be pretty cool, wouldn’t it?

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Re: If only there were a database of available players


Aug 9, 2022, 5:32 PM

Assuming of course if something like that existed you could actually get the coaches to look at it ;)

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Re: If only there were a database of available players


Aug 9, 2022, 8:02 PM [ in reply to If only there were a database of available players ]

How has that worked out for a point guard since you’re the expert on basketball and the portal?

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Lol. Name someone! I realize your goal is to cast aspersions


Aug 9, 2022, 8:25 PM [ in reply to If only there were a database of available players ]

in Dabo’s direction, but put at least a little effort into it. Stop acting like multiple can’t-miss kids are in the portal begging to come to Clemson. If you think that’s the solution, give us a name, so that we can judge the validity of your complaint.

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Okay, here’s one: Daniel Swarley.


Aug 9, 2022, 9:39 PM

As a freshman at Louisiana-Monroe, he started every game and averaged over 44 yards per punt. He was at Minnesota last year, but did not start so he entered the portal. He is now at Virginia, having transferred there earlier this summer.

https://www.si.com/college/virginia/football/uva-football-adds-minnesota-punter-daniel-sparks-from-transfer-portal


Now, hopefully you will put a little effort into this by not simply saying “Dabo knows what he’s doing.” Instead, try to be objective and ask yourself if we truly have the best punter available on our roster right now. In other words, are our punters better than anyone who was in the portal this year?

We don’t pay Dabo over $8 million a year not to have a freaking punter.

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Re: Okay, here’s one: Daniel Swarley.


Aug 9, 2022, 9:42 PM

Dabo knows what he’s doing

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Good to know, because it’s not comforting knowing that


Aug 9, 2022, 9:57 PM

we have very real question marks at QB, WR, OL, and punter when our first game is in a few weeks.

But if anyone can overcome that, it’s Dabo.

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Don’t forget RB…


Aug 9, 2022, 10:14 PM

QB, WR, OL, PT, and RB. And recruiting has fallen off as well. Not a good recipe.

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Thankfully, our defense seems to be in great shape.***


Aug 10, 2022, 10:40 AM



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QB eh? didn't you make this thread the night before this post?


Aug 10, 2022, 9:54 AM [ in reply to Good to know, because it’s not comforting knowing that ]

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/i-believe-dj-uiagaleilei-is-going-to-have-a-great-year-31052817


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Shouldn't you be more focused on finding basketball players?***


Aug 9, 2022, 9:53 PM [ in reply to Okay, here’s one: Daniel Swarley. ]



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Perfect, thanks. Now we’ll see how he does at UVA


Aug 9, 2022, 10:32 PM [ in reply to Okay, here’s one: Daniel Swarley. ]

Vs the two punters we have on the roster to see if bringing on Minnesota’s second stringer would have made a significant-enough impact on our program to warrant the inclusion of a transfer over those who chose Clemson from the get-go.

That’s assuming he would have had interest in Clemson.

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Re: Okay, here’s one: Daniel Swarley.


Aug 10, 2022, 10:01 AM [ in reply to Okay, here’s one: Daniel Swarley. ]

He didn't start at Minnesota and has yet to play at UVA......

I know I'm stupid and all, but can you use small words and explain how he has "helped" the team(s) to which he has transferred?

TIA

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I'm amazed your Clemson Edjumucation allowed you to logic


Aug 10, 2022, 10:06 AM

this out.

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I alos applied to Duke and UVA just so I could send them


Aug 10, 2022, 10:10 AM

a big nasty NO THANKS NERDS when they accepted me.

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Obviously, we don’t know if he will help them since the season hasn’t started.


Aug 10, 2022, 10:42 AM [ in reply to Re: Okay, here’s one: Daniel Swarley. ]

What we do know is that UVA’s coaches recognized a potential issue at punter and went out and got one.

In other words, at least they are trying.

If this punter the ‘Hoos got from the portal doesn’t workout, have they really lost much? I don’t think so.

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Wait, so Tony Elliott is a good coach?


Aug 10, 2022, 10:50 AM

Now I am confused.

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/i-am-critical-of-our-oc-this-year-because-he-is-the-highest-paid-29524633


On a side note, it’s interesting that we had top 5 talent last September, but less than a year later our recruiting has been falling off.


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Tony is a very analytical guy.


Aug 10, 2022, 11:05 AM

I suspect that he studied Dabo very carefully all those years, knowing that Dabo had a lot to teach him. Like any good young coach, Tony took the good so that he could replicate it, and also discarded the bad so that he could try to do those things better.

Perhaps Tony felt that Dabo wasn’t open enough to the transfer portal, and knew that he should view it in a more positive light as he started to build his team at UVA.

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Slightly different scenario though, right? UVA isn't exactly


Aug 10, 2022, 11:10 AM

loaded from a talent perspective and a 1st year coach doesn't have a roster full of "his guys".

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Tony Elliot lands at UVA...


Aug 10, 2022, 12:11 PM [ in reply to Tony is a very analytical guy. ]

Boom! He's already smarter than Dabo.

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I want to be sure I understand this...


Aug 10, 2022, 1:00 PM [ in reply to Tony is a very analytical guy. ]

2021: Tony Elliott is not a very good coach because he has top 5 talent, but his offense is ranked outside of the top 100.

2022: Tony Elliott is a good coach because he got Minnesota's backup punter from the transfer portal.

For reference:

Career at Clemson-
Elliott made his return to the Clemson Tigers in early 2011 to fill the running back coach position. In December 2014, he was named co-offensive coordinator to replace outgoing offensive coordinator Chad Morris, who left to take over as head coach of the SMU football program. He shared coordinator duties with Clemson's wide receivers coach, Jeff Scott. Swinney announced that Elliott would be the play-caller for the Russell Athletics Bowl versus the Oklahoma Sooners,[8] in which the Tigers defeated the Sooners by a score of 37–17.

Clemson's football team won the national championship in January 2017, beating Alabama, with Scott calling the offensive plays and serving as co-offensive coordinator for the game. In December 2017, Elliott was the recipient of the Broyles Award, presented to the top assistant coach in college football. In 2019, Elliott again called plays as co-offensive coordinator for Clemson's 44–16 win, again over Nick Saban's Alabama, to secure a second national championship.[9]

Elliott was Clemson's primary offensive playcaller for seven seasons (2015–2021), including through both of Clemson's NCAA Championships and successful runs through the College Football Playoff. Elliott also coached the running backs and tight ends at Clemson.[10] Elliott was the primary Clemson recruiter for these positions, including a "diamond in the rough" in four-star Travis Etienne, who under Elliott's position coaching and offensive playcalling became the ACC's all-time leader in rushing yards, rushing touchdowns, total touchdowns, total points scored, and total yards gained.[11] Under Elliott, Etienne scored at least one touchdown in 46 of his 55 career games, setting the NCAA and FBS records. As a coordinator, Elliott was also the primary playcaller for Trevor Lawrence.[10]

Elliott gained the additional title of associate head coach for Clemson in 2021. During his seven years as sole or co-offensive coordinator for Clemson, the Tigers had a record of 88–10. -Wiki

Career at UVA-
Picked up Minnesota's back up punter from the portal.




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Wait a second....


Aug 10, 2022, 2:17 PM

"2021: Tony Elliott is not a very good coach because he has top 5 talent, but his offense is ranked outside of the top 100."

I thought we had MAJOR question marks(entering 2022) at all of our offensive positions according to JK? I mean from last year to this year our only big losses were Justyn Ross and Bockhorst...so if we had top 5 talent last year, how can JK think we have so many questions this year?

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Re: Okay, here’s one: Daniel Swarley.


Aug 10, 2022, 12:19 PM [ in reply to Okay, here’s one: Daniel Swarley. ]

Why don't you contact Dabo--send him the link.

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Re: If only there were a database of available players


Aug 9, 2022, 9:42 PM [ in reply to If only there were a database of available players ]

I'm not a subscriber (I don't subscribe to anything on the net) but I'm pretty sure the new website on3 (it's in open competition with Rivals) has an exhaustive database on the transfer portal and NIL as well as HS recruiting.

Someone on here might know far better than I.

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Wonder if that Rico guy is still available…***


Aug 9, 2022, 9:47 PM [ in reply to If only there were a database of available players ]



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He’s poised to take state.***


Aug 9, 2022, 9:58 PM



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Aug 9, 2022, 5:29 PM

It makes you wonder what is going on with Swanson. He spent his last 2 HS years at IMG where he averaged 46 yds/punt as a Junior and 42 yds/punt as a senior and ranked in the Top 5 in the country.

When it comes to punting, you wouldn't think the leap from HS to College would be THAT different compared to other positions.

Hopefully, he figures it out over the next few weeks.

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If I set the filters right, there aren’t any in the portal


Aug 9, 2022, 5:32 PM

so all call might be our best bet

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Football/TransferPortalPositionRanking/?positionkey=37&status=uncommitted

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Re: If I set the filters right, there aren’t any in the portal


Aug 9, 2022, 5:36 PM

When Judge chose to opine with the cheap shot, I was fairly certain that was the case.

When in doubt, taking the opposite position of the Judge is usually the right one.

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Well, there WERE punters in the portal.


Aug 9, 2022, 6:34 PM [ in reply to If I set the filters right, there aren’t any in the portal ]

But they were signed by teams that realized that the portal could help them.

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Which teams, and how much did it help them?


Aug 9, 2022, 6:37 PM

TIA

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Who did we miss on? Just tell us the name.***


Aug 9, 2022, 8:27 PM [ in reply to Well, there WERE punters in the portal. ]



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Re: So I had a chance to watch one early practice session and I


Aug 9, 2022, 5:38 PM

I'll punt. I can get us 30 yards. That ought to be alright.

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Re: So I had a chance to watch one early practice session and I


Aug 9, 2022, 7:48 PM

Back in 2018, absolutely!

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Was Potter punting or just the two guys


Aug 9, 2022, 5:40 PM

on scholarship as punters? Potter is plan 1A

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Aug 9, 2022, 5:49 PM

Fun fact. I watched part of the 1989 FSU game yesterday, and the punter for FSU was a true freshman named... Charlie Ward.

So I say, can Cade punt?

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Re: So I had a chance to watch one early practice session and I


Aug 9, 2022, 7:53 PM

Are you suggesting our 5* freshman QB should be our punter? That’s a terrible idea! ?

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Re: So I had a chance to watch one early practice session and I


Aug 9, 2022, 10:19 PM

But the option to throw would always be there. Not an awful idea.

Wonder if Maverick can punt?

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Aug 9, 2022, 6:12 PM

Lets hope were never in a position to punt. TD, FG, TD FG TD...

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We could go to four down football & never punt


Aug 9, 2022, 6:17 PM

Kick onside to get the ball back after scoring!

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Re: We could go to four down football & never punt


Aug 9, 2022, 6:32 PM

Didn't work out well at PC.

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No, but I love the mentality!***


Aug 9, 2022, 9:59 PM



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This is a huge problem for a team with a suspect offense


Aug 9, 2022, 6:37 PM

I read this a few days ago. Considering it's August, there is nothing that can be done about it.

It's really hard to ride on the back of a great defense to a championship when punting is weak.

Defense and special teams could possibly get us to the CFP. But special teams gotta step up.

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Swans will come around. He had a bad day, but


Aug 9, 2022, 7:58 PM

reportedly better today.

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Re: So I had a chance to watch one early practice session and I


Aug 9, 2022, 8:06 PM

We won’t need to punt! Offense is going to be ?!

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Was Potter punting?


Aug 9, 2022, 8:11 PM

Wonder how he is at it?

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Don't we still have a darn good rugby team? Them


Aug 9, 2022, 9:56 PM

dudes ain't skeered get out there with the big'uns and play some punty ball.

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Aug 10, 2022, 10:08 AM

The plan is not to punt the ball very often.

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Aug 10, 2022, 11:19 AM

So Swanson nor Jackson Smith can get it done? I remember Swanson being highly rated out of HS.

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ALL of this stems from ONE dude who was at ONE PART


Aug 10, 2022, 1:13 PM

of ONE practice - saying - HOLY CRAP - OUR PUNTING SUCKS . . . .


Wow.



But all the poo being thrown at Keller is RICHLY deserved . . . the guy rivals chas tom during Dabo's first 4 to 5 years as all-time suckyiest Clemson fan.

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Re: ALL of this stems from ONE dude who was at ONE PART


Aug 11, 2022, 10:28 AM

You do realize Dabo confirmed what I poasted during yesterday's presser, right? The struggle at punter is real. People like you....just smh.

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Screw Calford.


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Aug 11, 2022, 11:57 AM

There has got to be a guy in Australia that would love to come to CLEMSON and kick!

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Re: So I had a chance to watch one early practice session and I


Aug 11, 2022, 1:17 PM

Punting is totally optional so.....

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