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TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 11:32 AM
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 11:36 AM
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Yes - like it needs a great OL, much better pass defense, and better tackling. As coach Howard used to say, "Anybody can play quarterback if you can block and tackle."
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Dabo is a lying fool!
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Jan 2, 2023, 12:14 PM
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Cade wasn’t “ready” because he was never given an opportunity to be ready because until the week before the ACCCG Cade didn’t practice with the starters. So not only was he never given a chance, he wasn’t even prepared if DJ got hurt!
There have been numerous articles and Twitter feeds that have made it painfully public how inexperienced this coaching staff is. Recruiting has dropped a little, but the bigger issue is development, which is currently nonexistent. We have an incompetent coaching staff.
Dabo has become Jerry Jones! Our trajectory under Dabo looks exactly like the Dallas Cowboys under Jerry Jones.
Bring in quality, competent, innovative people and win some championships, but then think you can do it all yourself! No need to worry about the rest of the coaching staff. He thinks he can do it all! He clearly thinks all Clemson needs is Dabo, Jesus, and the “culture”!
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Re: Dabo is a lying fool!
Jan 2, 2023, 12:32 PM
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Your first position or coordinator job should not be at a tier 1 elite school. I get the " I like to promote from within approach" but the inexperience of these coaching hires showed up in tough games against opposing good coaches. Goodwin may one day be a great DC but going from an analyst to DC at an elite power 5 school with no on field coaching experience has not been done in the modern era for a reason. Experience is something you can't put value on.
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Re: Dabo is a lying fool!
Jan 2, 2023, 1:04 PM
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We need experienced top notch Coordinators and coaches, not home grown friends and family.
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Keep dreaming.
Jan 2, 2023, 2:42 PM
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Any other questions?
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Re: Dabo is a lying fool!
Jan 2, 2023, 5:48 PM
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Like when you hire a position coach as your head coach and he proceeds to take your average team all the way to being a new blue-blood program ?
Did you miss that part ?
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Please stop!
Jan 3, 2023, 9:20 AM
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Dabo was not hired to build a championship program. No one ever expected that. Anyone that says they did is a liar or believes that everyone hired by Clemson people is the greatest thing ever! The blind loyalty cult mentality. Dabo was hired because we weren’t interested in a championship program and weren’t interested in paying a lot of money for a head coach. We got lucky! But of course it worked for Dabo so let’s hire an entire staff of young inexperienced coaches. That could not be more stupid and you know it!
These kids want to be coached these kids want to play for a winning program because these kids all think they’re gonna play in the NFL. That’s one of the reasons we have trouble recruiting the OL. We’re not putting kids in the NFL at that position at the same rate as other top programs. We’re not developing those players.
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I thumbed down your lying and disrespectful post
Jan 2, 2023, 3:40 PM
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coot! The system misread it as an update.
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Re: Dabo is a lying fool!
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Jan 2, 2023, 12:14 PM
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Cade wasn’t “ready” because he was never given an opportunity to be ready because until the week before the ACCCG Cade didn’t practice with the starters. So not only was he never given a chance, he wasn’t even prepared if DJ got hurt!
There have been numerous articles and Twitter feeds that have made it painfully public how inexperienced this coaching staff is. Recruiting has dropped a little, but the bigger issue is development, which is currently nonexistent. We have an incompetent coaching staff.
Dabo has become Jerry Jones! Our trajectory under Dabo looks exactly like the Dallas Cowboys under Jerry Jones.
Bring in quality, competent, innovative people and win some championships, but then think you can do it all yourself! No need to worry about the rest of the coaching staff. He thinks he can do it all! He clearly thinks all Clemson needs is Dabo, Jesus, and the “culture”!
the idiots on this board knows no bounds
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YOU TELL'EM COOT!***
Jan 3, 2023, 7:50 AM
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 10:48 PM
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Yes - like it needs a great OL, much better pass defense, and better tackling. As coach Howard used to say, "Anybody can play quarterback if you can block and tackle."
A few receivers wouldn’t hurt either!
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Nailed it.
Jan 2, 2023, 11:37 AM
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The question is will Dabo do all he can and we already know the answer is NO
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Yet again, Streeter and Goodwin will back, as they should.
Jan 2, 2023, 2:51 PM
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So why continue the gnashing of teeth, regardless of your opinion?
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Re: Yet again, Streeter and Goodwin will back, as they should.
Jan 2, 2023, 3:02 PM
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It’s just going to be extremely painful to watch another entire season of underperforming. I love everything Dabo has done for our university, but I don’t know what happened to his foresight over the past 2 years. As long as we have Streeter “in charge” of the offense, it’s not going to get any better.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 11:39 AM
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Absolutely, we need an OC and a DC, and this program will get back in the playoffs. Dabo can ignore that fact for as long as he wants to, but with Streeter and Goodwin as coordinators, just scarping by ACC teams I don't think will be enough to get this program back in the playoff with a real chance to win a playoff game!!!!
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 12:30 PM
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Well, technically it will be enough to get by ACC teams beginning in 2024 because winning the conference will give you an automatic bid into the expanded playoffs. I totally get your point but winning the ACC will now become an even greater priority with what lies ahead.
My fear is that we can't take winning the ACC for granted because we now have competition making good moves in recruiting and use of the portal to become more competitive because they will have the same goal as us in trying to make the playoffs as ACC Champs.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 12:46 PM
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What has worked will not continue to provide ACC championships. Florida State will beat us next year if changes aren’t made.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
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Jan 2, 2023, 5:51 PM
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No they won't, and neither will the Coots.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 4:44 PM
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If we continue on this trajectory we will not win the ACC. FSU was by far the most dominant team in the ACC the last 6 weeks plus the bowl game. Change has to happen and it with player development. Either the staff needs to seek out help with technique, a change in philosophy. Or there needs to be a change in staff.
We had a great recruiting class this year but that will change as the players see they are not being developed.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 5:01 PM
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The numbers are high for the ‘23 class, but it isnt an elite class on paper. DL is pretty good, but we have fallen in skill’s positions. Per 24/7, none of our WRs are even in the top 50 positional rankings. Same for RB. I know they are trying, but we have missed out on quite a few targeted recruits.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 11:39 AM
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So are y’all going to bring this up to Dabo?
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 11:44 AM
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As long as freedom of speech is still legal in the USA, if I see Dabo somewhere, I wouldn't have a problem telling him that his friends will bring him down... College FB is big business, and it's the wrong place to have close friends, it truly is!!!
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 11:44 AM
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So are y’all going to bring this up to Dabo?
Dabo is stubborn.....He has earned the right to run the program how he sees fit, but, how he sees fit isn't going to win titles in this era of cfb
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Lmao!***
Jan 2, 2023, 12:15 PM
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Thanks Captain Obvious. It's really obvious to every fan
Jan 2, 2023, 11:50 AM
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with a working brain cell. The question is what if anything will be done about it by Dabo. As an aside this article only touches on a few of the many items that need to be addressed by him moving forward. You can show an alcoholic they have a drinking problem and need to get help but until they are willing to admit there is a problem they will continue to be a drunk and destroy their life, repuation and the people around them.
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Speaking of captain obvious
Jan 2, 2023, 12:00 PM
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You do realize this is Clemson and Tigernet, where being a good Christian man is all that is required to be a head coach. Any success whatsoever gets you cult status! Dabo could have a losing seasons three years in a row and the Kool-Aid drinkers on here would still attack people for pointing out the obvious!
Frankly, I can’t believe David Hood hasn’t already been attacked by the cultists!!!
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David Hood? LMAO When has asked a tough
Jan 2, 2023, 12:03 PM
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question to this coaching staff or written an article critical of all the things be pointed out. He's glad he has a job.
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He has written a few articles and been critical of the past two years.
Jan 2, 2023, 12:19 PM
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This article reads a lot like his writing. Notice there’s no one person’s name on this article. I promise you that was on purpose!
The grammar was significantly better in this article than a typical David hood story, but the writing, and the tone and tenor, are very similar to things He has written the past two years.
But they definitely did not want to put any ones name on this story!
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It says Ryan Kantor wrote it.***
Jan 2, 2023, 12:23 PM
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My bad. You are correct. I glanced at
Jan 2, 2023, 12:31 PM
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another story right before this and mixed them up. The other story said tiger net staff.
But David Hood has written articles similar to this last year and this year and been critical.
Wow! Got to give them credit. I’m surprised they put someone’s name on that article. Because you know how Dabo reacts to the media being even remotely critical of him!
There have been numerous articles by numerous sports writers in South Carolina and across the south that are pointing out how incompetent this coaching staff is.
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Re: My bad. You are correct. I glanced at
Jan 2, 2023, 9:33 PM
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You’ve lost all credibility with me. Try this one…. Better to be silent and thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt! Not my quote but maybe you know who said it.
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Thanks Ryan
Jan 2, 2023, 1:19 PM
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You have a bright future in sports media ... keep up the good work.
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Re: He has written a few articles and been critical of the past two years.
Jan 2, 2023, 1:41 PM
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Didn't you write one about the portal as well? Your just asking to get your press credentials revoked.
Since you mentioned the WR position, would you care to push even more. Is it recruiting, coaching, or just bad luck with injuries? To me it boils down to coaching. We have had a lot of bad luck with injuries, but there has been a lot of supposed talent come through. Some even looked the part early. Ones that have come and gone include EJ Williams, Ladson, Decarri Collins, and Ajou, who though is ranking was 3 star, had the "measurables" to create a lot of optimism. Still on the team are Beaux Collins, Stellato, and Will Taylor who have had injury issues, along with Randle, who has worked his way back more than the other 3. Everybody is excited about Antonio Williams and I think that many feel like Turner may have some potential. Ngata has looked better with Cade throwing the ball and could make an impact should he choose to use the COVID year.
That is a lot of talent coming through under Grisham, at least it was supposed to be. There have been a lot of injuries, but should we be having the problems that we are? Care to go farther out the limb with any comments?
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Re: He has written a few articles and been critical of the past two years.
Jan 2, 2023, 8:46 PM
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The Streeter/Grisham combo has not paid off the last 2 years. Maybe they can both recruit, but I'm not convinced they can develop/coach our players. No, none of our WR have been Mike Williams/Tee Higgins, etc. But there has been some pretty good talent come in and then waste away or leave. Our inability to stretch the field, inability to find the middle of the field, and inability to catch even relatively "simple" passes consistently has really screwed us.
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In other words....
Jan 2, 2023, 11:57 AM
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Dabo's "culture" is great until he starts losing to every decent, non-ACC opponent on the schedule, stocks his coaching coffers full of in-experienced former players, starts one of the worst QB's in power 5 history for 2 years straight, hones his arrogance to new levels never seen before and stands on past years of success because he's struggling like a mf'er to repeat that effort now.
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Re: In other words.... Dabo values loyalty over performance.
Jan 2, 2023, 12:04 PM
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That is going to cost us too many games against quality opponents.
At least we should be able to handle Charleston Southern and Florida Atlantic to start off the 2023 season.
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Re: In other words....
Jan 2, 2023, 12:42 PM
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How do you get negative points? I didn’t even know that was possible
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 12:01 PM
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Good to great OL will solve a lot of issues.
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We're going to get our OL there how?***
Jan 2, 2023, 12:06 PM
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Re: We're going to get our OL there how?***
Jan 2, 2023, 3:28 PM
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@Baltimore Tiger
Trick question? How in the hell do we get any player?
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Clemson hasn’t had what I would consider a dominant or
Jan 2, 2023, 12:27 PM
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Significantly above average 0L since the last of the Danny Ford players.
Our recruiting could certainly be better at the OL position, but it hasn’t been that bad. The problem has been development and scheme.
The truly disappointing thing is the fact that we have been an elite program in spite of our OL play. This position probably more than any other requires competent coaching. It’s disappointing that we have been as good as we have been, but have not been able to improve the OL. In fact, it has only regressed.
Even more disappointing is when you look around and recognize that Texas A&M, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Boston College, Wisconsin, and a handful of other programs always seem to have a really superior OL even win the rest of the team. Isn’t that good. I have been saying for years on TNet that we need to go get one of these programs OL staff. This is 100% a coaching issue!
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Re: Clemson hasn’t had what I would consider a dominant or
Jan 2, 2023, 12:28 PM
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Since you know so much why don't you apply for the job.
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People like you really are sad.
Jan 2, 2023, 12:36 PM
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You ignore the obvious and get triggered when people point it out. I don’t need to be a doctor to know when I’m sick. I was a hell of a football player and would’ve played at Clemson during the 80s along with my two best friends from high school had I not been in a car accident. I know what well coached football looks like. I can also read statistics because I have a BS in finance from Clemson.
Every game Clemson has lost for at least 10 years has been for one simple reason. The OL. We lost to Pittsburgh with Deshaun Watson at home, which kept us from having the all-time home winning streak, because we couldn’t gain less than a yard. We lost to Notre Dame in South Bend when Trevor Lawrence had Covid because we couldn’t gain less than a yard on numerous occasions to run out the clock. when you have far superior talent but you can’t get a yard or less when you need it against inferior opponents it’s because your OL sucks!
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Re: People like you really are sad.
Jan 2, 2023, 10:26 PM
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lowcountry---did the OL give up 43 points to pitt and 47 to ND? I agree with your overall assessment but the defense got burned in those 2 games
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Re: Clemson hasn’t had what I would consider a dominant or
Jan 2, 2023, 3:45 PM
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Since you know so much why don't you apply for the job.
He is just complaining. He can’t decide from post to post if the OL is good or is not good.
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Re: Clemson hasn’t had what I would consider a dominant or
Jan 2, 2023, 3:26 PM
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@Lowcntry_Tiger
In one post the OL is not good and the next post that’s not the problem. Hard to take some of you bitchers seriously. If we had won on Friday would not have heard nothing. We lose and the program needs an overhaul.
Did you watch the game Friday? And you want to say the OL is good. Cade got absolutely killed and our best OLineman was abused.
You control the LOS you control the game. Nothing wrong with the scheme just not enough quality Joe’s to execute it.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 12:02 PM
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Are you guys saying Dabo is not up to the job? Remember, Alabama lost two games with a Heisman trophy QB and higher rated recruiting. Dabo has done what was needed before; he fired Spence, Steele & Napier. He knows his coaches & players much better that we do. I have confidence he will make good decisions. Please take note of other College Football Playoff teams like Oregon, Michigan St., LSU, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Cincinnati, & Michigan. Only one has a national championship and none have been as consistent as Clemson! Most if not all have had head coaching changes and are fighting for consistency like ours!
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 12:09 PM
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Recent history suggests otherwise.
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Yes. We are saying that unfortunately. The game has changed
Jan 2, 2023, 12:09 PM
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in three years and it is exactly the game that Dabo said he did not want to be part of. Remember he said if they started paying players and allowing for all transfers he was done. He doesn't have the appetite for this or mindset but we are locked in with him much like Texas A&M is with Jimbo. He is not going to quit with his huge annual paycheck but his give a #### is obviously gone and we are now in a tough spot. He doesn't want to play the game that is the new college football landscape but there is not a #### thing any Tiger fan can do about it. We are stuck.
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Re: Yes. We are saying that unfortunately. The game has changed
Jan 2, 2023, 2:03 PM
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I'm not sure that many are as sure as Baltimore Tiger about the demise of Dabo, but there are an awful lot of us that fear it. Dabo does not appear to be willing to change, so I think that our hopes are pinned to our coordinators making significant changes. They are new so the potential for growth is certainly there, but it is frustrating when Clemson had the reputation and finances to lure proven coordinators on both sides of the ball. I know that don't think that Dabo needs to change, but the college game is changing. The same things that got us to the top are not going to return us there.
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One other thing. He also knows Alabama will NEVER
Jan 2, 2023, 12:11 PM
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hire him when Saban retires so building a dynasty that would get him back to Mama is gone. There is zero motivation on his part to change things up. It's easier for him to run the program with cronies than to bring in new blood that may question him.
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Exactly!
Jan 2, 2023, 12:44 PM
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I love when Dabo response to fan criticism that he can always go somewhere else. I honestly don’t think another serious power of five program would hire Dabo. They see how arrogant and stubborn he is. They see the kind of coaching staff he has. They see he will not use the portal. They hear him talking about Jesus nonstop! That would not work anywhere else, but Clemson. And frankly it’s starting to fail at Clemson!
If he thinks Clemson fans are tough he truly has his head up his ###. Clemson has proven repeatedly that if you are a good person, a good Christian man you’re not gonna get fired. He played in Alabama. He doesn’t have the balls or the stomach to coach there! Those fans would chew him up and spit him out!
Dabo going to Alabama now is hilarious! That train left three or four years ago. Although I always knew he would never go there precisely because of all the things we’re talking about. But now I don’t think any top tier program would even consider hiring him!
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Re: Exactly!
Jan 2, 2023, 1:08 PM
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He won’t get top 2 or 3 pay for a top 15 team elsewhere, at least not for long.
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Never thought about it
Jan 2, 2023, 1:23 PM
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And Dabo hopefully has many more good years at Clemson, starting with Cade's 2023 success, but I can see Dabo winding down a HOF career at Liberty if he wants ...
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Re: Never thought about it
Jan 2, 2023, 5:18 PM
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Cade's success will depend on the OL, the receivers, and the play calling. Cade's skills will improve, but I'm not sure about his support.
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Re: Exactly!
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I love when Dabo response to fan criticism that he can always go somewhere else. I honestly don’t think another serious power of five program would hire Dabo. They see how arrogant and stubborn he is. They see the kind of coaching staff he has. They see he will not use the portal. They hear him talking about Jesus nonstop! That would not work anywhere else, but Clemson. And frankly it’s starting to fail at Clemson!
If he thinks Clemson fans are tough he truly has his head up his ###. Clemson has proven repeatedly that if you are a good person, a good Christian man you’re not gonna get fired. He played in Alabama. He doesn’t have the balls or the stomach to coach there! Those fans would chew him up and spit him out!
Dabo going to Alabama now is hilarious! That train left three or four years ago. Although I always knew he would never go there precisely because of all the things we’re talking about. But now I don’t think any top tier program would even consider hiring him!
Another power 5 team would not take Dabo? Dude you have no credibility. Just because you do not agree with the man does not make him a great coach . 2 national championships in less than 8 years and no one would want him. LMFO!
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Re: Exactly!
Jan 2, 2023, 6:05 PM
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I love when Dabo response to fan criticism that he can always go somewhere else. I honestly don’t think another serious power of five program would hire Dabo. They see how arrogant and stubborn he is. They see the kind of coaching staff he has. They see he will not use the portal. They hear him talking about Jesus nonstop! That would not work anywhere else, but Clemson. And frankly it’s starting to fail at Clemson!
If he thinks Clemson fans are tough he truly has his head up his ###. Clemson has proven repeatedly that if you are a good person, a good Christian man you’re not gonna get fired. He played in Alabama. He doesn’t have the balls or the stomach to coach there! Those fans would chew him up and spit him out!
Dabo going to Alabama now is hilarious! That train left three or four years ago. Although I always knew he would never go there precisely because of all the things we’re talking about. But now I don’t think any top tier program would even consider hiring him! Another power 5 team would not take Dabo? Dude you have no credibility. Just because you do not agree with the man does not make him a great coach . 2 national championships in less than 8 years and no one would want him. LMFO!
A ridiculous post like that by LowC essentially eliminates him from any comments that will be taken seriously going forward.
Dabo would be highly considered in a fraction of a second by 100% of any Power 5 vacancy. 100%!
And if you think otherwise, then just keep making these comments and see him take his game elsewhere.
95% of coaches out there are very average or below average. WE ARE SO LUCKY to have him. If he goes, we go right back to being half-***.
A “bad year” for us is an ACC Championship and OB berth and most of you are crying???!!!
You have no clue of what the possible alternative is and, much more than likely, it would be A LOT WORSE…..
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That was ages ago!
Jan 2, 2023, 12:39 PM
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That was a Dabo and a Clemson program that hadn’t won anything. That was a man trying to prove something. Now he’s trying to prove the critics wrong and he’s losing! You clearly do not recognize how arrogant and stubborn Dabo has become!
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To be fair Dabo has always been pretty stubborn and arrogant
Jan 2, 2023, 4:04 PM
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If you want to look at the things he says from that point of view. The problem is the vocal fans agreed with the stubbornness and arrogance that he was displaying so that was just Dabo being Dabo, Daboism’s if you will. Now he’s saying the exact same thing it’s just not what people want to hear because he is not divulging his plan for change or true thoughts. The man hasn’t changed just what people want has. I think he will fix it, it might not be as fast as people would like but he will fix it eventually or he won’t last long in this football landscape.
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To be fair Dabo has always been pretty stubborn and arrogant
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If you want to look at the things he says from that point of view. The problem is the vocal fans agreed with the stubbornness and arrogance that he was displaying so that was just Dabo being Dabo, Daboism’s if you will. Now he’s saying the exact same thing it’s just not what people want to hear because he is not divulging his plan for change or true thoughts. The man hasn’t changed just what people want has. I think he will fix it, it might not be as fast as people would like but he will fix it eventually or he won’t last long in this football landscape.
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Re: That was ages ago!
Jan 2, 2023, 9:51 PM
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You clearly DON’T realize how stubborn and arrogant YOU are. As somebody asked earlier if you know so much why don’t you get a coaching job. You obviously think you can coach and you’re looking for a promotion from high school assistant.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 2:18 PM
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Are you guys saying Dabo is not up to the job? Remember, Alabama lost two games with a Heisman trophy QB and higher rated recruiting. Dabo has done what was needed before; he fired Spence, Steele & Napier. He knows his coaches & players much better that we do. I have confidence he will make good decisions. Please take note of other College Football Playoff teams like Oregon, Michigan St., LSU, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Cincinnati, & Michigan. Only one has a national championship and none have been as consistent as Clemson! Most if not all have had head coaching changes and are fighting for consistency like ours!
DWTiger may be the only appreciative, non-spoiled person on here. He seems to understand where we are in the pecking order of cfb teams, which happens to be extremely high up there.
With Bama having the #1 recruiting class almost every single year, Saban being ruthless and showing no loyalty to his players and going hard on the transfer portal, I can’t understand how he would ever lose a single game! But, amazingly, he does!!! Bama fans should be hanging him in effigy by now. (Most of the posters on this link probably would….)
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 12:18 PM
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But we’re supposed to shut our mouths and be grateful that we won the games we did
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 12:26 PM
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What’s opening and running your mouth going to do?
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 12:45 PM
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Isn’t that what a message board is for?
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People like you ignore the fact that
Jan 2, 2023, 12:48 PM
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That stadium is filled by and the facilities are paid for the fans! Who do you think pays Dabo’s salary? The fans! Season-ticket holders, IPTAY members etc. are the stockholders and Dabo is the CEO. We have every right to complain when we’re paying for the product on the field and getting far less than what we’re paying for!
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Re: People like you ignore the fact that
Jan 2, 2023, 6:16 PM
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That stadium is filled by and the facilities are paid for the fans! Who do you think pays Dabo’s salary? The fans! Season-ticket holders, IPTAY members etc. are the stockholders and Dabo is the CEO. We have every right to complain when we’re paying for the product on the field and getting far less than what we’re paying for!
You live a sad life if you only measure the team’s success strictly by wins and losses on the football field. Tell me, if you had the choice:
Team A that wins or plays for the natty every other year, but only graduates about 50% of its players and some of those players get in trouble for things like shop lifting, armed robbery, drugs, etc OR
Team B - Our current program with Dabo?
Which would you rather support?
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 12:28 PM
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We have become a soft football team again. The stats bear that out every team we’ve played since the last National Championship with any kind of talent and physical presence has beat us . We aren’t physically tough anymore at key positions. The lack of development of the talent we sign is very evident. Unfortunately I’m not sure the desire or will is there to make the changes needed. We seem to be a fat and happy program to complete in the Acc and get our ##### handed to us when we play outside the conference.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 3:07 PM
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I could not agree more regarding the softness. In addition, the "electricity" that is always present in top teams has been clearly lacking for some time. The lack of aggressiveness and electricity are reflective of problems noted in the sound critique in the TNet piece and by many objective observers in this discussion thread.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
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We have become a soft football team again. The stats bear that out every team we’ve played since the last National Championship with any kind of talent and physical presence has beat us . We aren’t physically tough anymore at key positions. The lack of development of the talent we sign is very evident. Unfortunately I’m not sure the desire or will is there to make the changes needed. We seem to be a fat and happy program to complete in the Acc and get our ##### handed to us when we play outside the conference.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
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We have become a soft football team again. The stats bear that out every team we’ve played since the last National Championship with any kind of talent and physical presence has beat us . We aren’t physically tough anymore at key positions. The lack of development of the talent we sign is very evident. Unfortunately I’m not sure the desire or will is there to make the changes needed. We seem to be a fat and happy program to complete in the Acc and get our ##### handed to us when we play outside the conference.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 12:48 PM
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Serious question, do you think part of us becoming soft has been because of the lack of challenge playing in a conference like the ACC? As these other programs become stronger and more competitive is it possible that might actually help us as we become forced to raise our game to compete with these programs that have been pushovers but are now becoming more of a force to reckon with?
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 12:50 PM
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Serious question, do you think part of us becoming soft has been because of the lack of challenge playing in a conference like the ACC? As these other programs become stronger and more competitive is it possible that might actually help us as we become forced to raise our game to compete with these programs that have been pushovers but are now becoming more of a force to reckon with?
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 5:45 PM
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I honestly don’t think we have a toughness mentality anymore on our coaching staff to drive us to that point. Dan Brooks and Robbie Caldwell both took a lot of Criticism, but imo they developed a physical toughness in players. I think Brent Venerables toughness and mentality he brought was greatly missed this year across all aspects of our defense. We have very little intensity from players or coaches. As someone stated earlier FSU is coming strong … they play physical football. We’ve regressed back to trying to be a finesse football team. Finesse football won’t win National titles or compete with many top caliber teams outside the ACC or FSU. We’ve seen that during FSU’s run before.I’ll add S&C may need a look too. We physically don’t look like a top tier team getting off the bus. We’ve got big guys but…. A lot of it isn’t solid weight. I think thats very evident on the OL. I’ve been a Tiger fan all my life, I hope it gets fixed. But the attitude toward change recently by the HC doesn’t leave me optimistic.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 12:26 PM
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Transfer portal fixes the issues immediately. Dabo doesn’t want to abandon on the guys that he recruited, I get it. But we need to put the best product on the field. If guys aren’t ready, go into the portal and find some veterans that are. Allow your younger players to truly develop.
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No, it doesn’t.
Jan 2, 2023, 12:51 PM
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We have more talent than any team we have played. Our problem is not talent. talent and depth are going to be an issue going forward. But that has not been the problem the past two seasons. Our problem is coaching! As in, we don’t have any! We have zero player development and extremely poor coaching, and really no offensive scheme or identity at the moment.
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Re: No, it doesn’t.
Jan 2, 2023, 1:16 PM
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We used to play the “fighting Swinney kids” late in the 4th quarter along with the other bench players to gain experience when blowing out opponents. Now, they play with the starters. To one’s credit in last years big Cheese It Bowl win - Will was one of our most reliable receivers. Yes, it takes more than a QB …
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Re: No, it doesn’t.
Jan 2, 2023, 5:13 PM
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Recruiting talent is important but you don’t always hit the ball out of the park or even hit a single with the HS rankings. Development is critical. The transfer portal can help fill obvious holes where the talent recruited out of HS has not developed, left or is just a bust.
I hate the portal but Dabo has to adjust or he is in a fist fight with a hand tied behind his back
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I seriously doubt Dabo is willing to make the needed
Jan 2, 2023, 12:30 PM
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changes - he seems to be too focused on being right.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 12:42 PM
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We (Clemson) have Not had a Dominate "O" Line since Danny Ford's Teams, that's #1
But that said...We have had everything else.
So my Hope is each and Every Offensive Lineman coming back watch the ND, SC & TN
games every week until next September and
Own their share of Responsibilty for 3 Losses.
And as they are in the weight room working out that they Purpose in their Heart to Never be
OutWorked, OutHustled, OutPlayed and when they strap on that Orange Helmet w/ the Sacred Paw on it, they become Green Hulks with THE
MEANEST, NASTIEST ANGER unleashed on whatever Defense is across from them.
Let our own Defensive Front be Sick of having to go against Clemson's Green Hulks.
Remember Jeff Bostic and the Redskins Hogs?
That's what will WIN THE 2023 Natty.
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Exactly!
Jan 2, 2023, 12:56 PM
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I have been on here for years saying the only real weakness this program has had under Dabo has been the OL. But that has changed. Our biggest problem now is an incompetent coaching staff.
It breaks my heart to see programs like Pittsburgh and Boston College, and other programs that have been blown off the field by Clemson for years have a better OL every year than we do! It is the most important position on the field and requires the most player development. You have to have OL coaches that can develop talent and proper schemes. But we have not had that since Ford.
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Re: Exactly!
Jan 2, 2023, 10:29 PM
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‘I have been on here for years….”
Says you joined in 2020, correct?
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Very well reasoned & written season summary with facts
Jan 2, 2023, 1:13 PM
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and statistics to compare to prior seasons. Thanks and job well done @TigerNet News® (Ryan).
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Re: Very well reasoned & written season summary with facts
Jan 2, 2023, 1:36 PM
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Having a new OC with vision, experience, and imagination would do a great deal to improve our offense but I'm afraid we are stuck with Dabo's failed experiment on promoting inexperienced friends.
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Re: Very well reasoned & written season summary with facts
Jan 2, 2023, 1:57 PM
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ON THE FIELD LEADERSHIP . Develop it and you return to prominence. Fail to develop it and become an “also ran”!
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 2:29 PM
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Undefeated is a tall order for anybody!
How many teams are undefeated?
How many will finish undefeated?
1 maybe …
I am not saying that You don’t strive for undefeated but when special seasons happen celebrate them and don’t forget them.
The name calling and coach bashing and the entitled attitude of some actually many fans is ridiculous! The griping fans have taken away much of the fun and joy of watching sports! They are miserable and want everyone else to be miserable with them.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 3:12 PM
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So you are suggesting that we just lower our expectations and standards? Thrilled with mediocrity compared to what we have been and could be?
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 6:10 PM
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Rugby, you may know your sport but you don't know jack about football. First of all, 11-3 is a mountain top above mediocre. Second, the goal for every team in the nation is to go undefeated but the reality is it rarely happens. Losing a game is not the end of the world.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
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We will be lucky to finish Top 10. Any season where Clemson doesn't finish Top 10 is a failure--plain and simple. Winning the ACC doesn't mean anything when there is only 1 good other team and we played them before they got to be better than us
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 2:29 PM
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Our offensive line play has been abysmal now for several years. Too many missed assignments, pass protection etc. they almost got Klubnik killed Friday night. Not sure who is coaching the offensive line but, something has to change the current culture as we are way too soft there. If he can't do it find the best O-line coach and go out and get them.
We don't need and O-line where when someone hits you in the mouth you stand there and take it and lose confidence the rest of the game. We need an offensive line that is aggressive along with being mean & nasty and understand what there jobs are & then go out there and do it! I think this could go a along way to helping our running & passing game get where it needs to be and get the tigers back to an elite level.
Also, you have one of the best offensive coordinators in the country who led us to the promise land not long ago just moved back to Clemson. Do not believe one bit the story he has of no plans to get back into coaching at this time. Why did he move his whole family back to Clemson then, sounds like he wants back. Get Scott back at the helm and this along with an really good O-line coach can get us going in the right direction again!
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 2:38 PM
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The problem is not talent. Until Dabo gets off his stubborn high horse and makes some offensive coaching changes I’m not expecting much to change. Inside a weak conference he’ll compete. Outside it, not so much.
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Re: TNET: Take a look back
Jan 2, 2023, 3:23 PM
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and see how many times The tigers had to punt each of the last 2 years and how many times they had to punt the previous 2 years before the last 2 years. Consistency has not been there the last 2 years on offense. Question is why? I'm not sure if anyone has set comfortable through any game in the last 2 years. We hear the players coming in each year are what Clemson wants and is looking for. So where is the problem? Since the bar has been set and best is the standard then the entire team from players to coaches to all staff to game planning need to be elite. If not then the most important win of every year will need to be against the "lamecocks" then win a bowl game.
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F+ sounds about right
Jan 2, 2023, 4:08 PM
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I’m honestly curious, does anyone know the date when Dabo last said “the best is yet to come”?
It seems as if he makes those statements less and less nowadays, like he doesn’t have the same confidence in the program that he used to have.
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Re: F+ sounds about right
Jan 2, 2023, 5:21 PM
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I don’t know the date but it does seem the fire is not as hot with Dabo. Something has changed and I hope it’s not the large contract creating complacency.
I don’t want to be the one to bring up that horrible word but it feels like it’s only a matter of time before we hear “Clemsoning” again. We lost to two teams this year that we should have beaten. That’s the measure. I remember the Dabo rant when that word was mentioned. But now it looks like he owns it as our team is not properly prepared day in and day out.
I love our coach. I remember the 90’s and 2000’s. It was rough being a Tiger. I’m much happier today than then.
But if Dabo is the competitor he claims then he must make changes
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Another great article by Ryan Kantor.***
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 4:56 PM
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You are right but Dabo will not demote or remove coordinators this coming year. He should but it's not happening. The pre-season ballyhoo for the defense was either not justified or the coaching was not adequate- I say the latter. Same for the offense. Offense philosophy is poor (not physical enough when we have to be with the run game) and not imaginative enough in the passing game (play calling). More of the same next year unless serious re-evaluation takes place. We all love Dabo but it's easier to fire strangers (Steel and Spence) than friends. Saban doesn't have that problem- he has no friends when they get in the way of winning. I don't want Dabo to be Nick but he has to do whatever it takes to cause changes and the sooner the better.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 6:13 PM
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You are right but Dabo will not demote or remove coordinators this coming year. He should but it's not happening. The pre-season ballyhoo for the defense was either not justified or the coaching was not adequate- I say the latter. Same for the offense. Offense philosophy is poor (not physical enough when we have to be with the run game) and not imaginative enough in the passing game (play calling). More of the same next year unless serious re-evaluation takes place. We all love Dabo but it's easier to fire strangers (Steel and Spence) than friends. Saban doesn't have that problem- he has no friends when they get in the way of winning. I don't want Dabo to be Nick but he has to do whatever it takes to cause changes and the sooner the better.
It doesn't matter one bit how physical we are with the run game or how effective it is, if the two guys calling the plays can't bring themselves to stick with it when it is working.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 5:46 PM
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Bold but true story. Hope you don't get black balled. Dabo needs to get out of the woods and look at the forest. Winning the ACC championship is not a big deal.
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It all hangs on the OL.
Jan 2, 2023, 5:57 PM
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There is enough talent at skill positions for the offense to be top 10 or 15 in country at least.
But, in today's game, you've got to have an ELITE OL. Not just a good one, an elite one. Look at those 4 semifinal teams. Talent wise at the skill positions Clemson is good enough to match up.
But, OL is just somewhere between average and good. Long way from being equal to any of those 4 teams.
Just my very uneducated analysis.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 6:05 PM
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I have not seen 1 single position that we can not improve on this fall. The question is not whether we need to improve but do we have the players to do it.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 6:09 PM
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Over the past few years, we have had lots of delay of game penalties in critical situations and/or when decisions that should have been made already are needed.
We burn timeouts unnecessarily in these situations as well. (hope we don't need them for a scoring drive with little time on the clock)
We make baffling, seeminly emotional decisions in games as well. Take the 3 points early in the game vs a tough opponent? Nah. Lets roll the dice. Try a really long field goal or go for it early in the game vs punt to flip the field and pin the opponent deep?. Roll them dice.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs B than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 6:30 PM
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Winning the ACC is no big deal? Say that to me when FSU ruled the day. I'm glad CDS is a tiger and glad DJU is gone. Give the team some time, and I'm quite sure things will turn around. Look for Blake Miller to take charge of the OL next year. He is the NASTY guy everyone wants to see more of. Believe that.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 2, 2023, 7:19 PM
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Stats don’t lie but you can have coaches blowing smoke or some call it coach speak. One thing is true Clemson needs to make some changes and there is a lot work that needs to be done on both sides of the ball but especially in regards to the offense. I would Clemson to go to the portal for an experienced O-lineman or two. A couple of the current O-lineman are not doing their job.
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Changes to personnel and philosophy need to be made***
Jan 2, 2023, 11:29 PM
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 3, 2023, 1:08 AM
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It's hard to disagree with anything in this article. Dabo has led this program to places I never imagined was possible. When he was promoted from receivers coach to interim head coach, we had no idea it would lead to this. That said, Dabo is a great leader and has excelled as the head coach. I think most people would agree that he is not an X's and O's coach. His strength is his leadership, strategic thinking, and the culture he has cultivated.
That said, promoting from within for both the OC and DC in the same season has not been great. Just because he was successful in such a big leap with no experience doesn't mean he can make it happen for his staff with some "guts" and positive thinking.
Dabo has gotten arrogant. He gets defensive when reporters ask tough questions. He has this attitude like "How dare we question him or be unhappy? We should be happy we get 10 wins a season and we are better now than we ever have been." Dabo will pull out the most obscure statistic to put a positive spin on the program while ignoring the most obvious issues in front of him.
I don't expect us to be undefeated every season but I do expect better decision making and a better product on the field.
If he can't humble himself, admit he made a mistake, and make the appropriate changes, we are going to be in for a frustrating time for the next decade. We will consistently not perfirm
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 3, 2023, 1:10 AM
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It's hard to disagree with anything in this article. Dabo has led this program to places I never imagined was possible. When he was promoted from receivers coach to interim head coach, we had no idea it would lead to this. That said, Dabo is a great leader and has excelled as the head coach. I think most people would agree that he is not an X's and O's coach. His strength is his leadership, strategic thinking, and the culture he has cultivated.
That said, promoting from within for both the OC and DC in the same season has not been great. Just because he was successful in such a big leap with no experience doesn't mean he can make it happen for his staff with some "guts" and positive thinking.
Dabo has gotten arrogant. He gets defensive when reporters ask tough questions. He has this attitude like "How dare we question him or be unhappy? We should be happy we get 10 wins a season and we are better now than we ever have been." Dabo will pull out the most obscure statistic to put a positive spin on the program while ignoring the most obvious issues in front of him.
I don't expect us to be undefeated every season but I do expect better decision making and a better product on the field.
If he can't humble himself, admit he made a mistake, and make the appropriate changes, we are going to be in for a frustrating time for the next decade. We will consistently not perform to the level we should be capable of. Our recruiting will suffer. We will regress. We'll be good, not great, and definitely not elite.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 3, 2023, 1:43 AM
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What is needed is coaches who can attract and recruit better talent across the OLine and WR positions. Most importantly, what is needed is an innovative OC who knows how to devise a game plan and call plays that adapt the skillset of his QB. Trying to use an RPO scheme with a non-athletic QB like DJU was stupid. The RPO scheme is better suited for Klubnik.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 3, 2023, 6:22 AM
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DABO, get with the current times (Transfer Portal NIL) recruit some big beef, physical boys for the OL and DL that can go a full 4 quarters. Otherwise Clemson will be left in the CFP dust !!
as well as the improving ACC. Florida State is coming back.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 3, 2023, 7:22 AM
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The OL played 101 plays against 2 platoons of good athletes with our coaches deciding to give Tenn chances to sub out for fresh players after ill-timed substitutions as we got into the red zone. Sometimes the other team makes plays too. And sometimes the QB needs to do his job and make the hot read and/or step up to avoid the rush.
Our run game was working with the OL doing a good job. But the staff refused to exploit that.
The OL has pass blocked well all year. They did not in the OB.
Simply saying we need different players is disingenuous.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 3, 2023, 7:09 AM
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Clemson needs Jeff Scott.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
Jan 3, 2023, 8:00 AM
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Filling the coaching spots mostly with former players doesn’t seem to be what the other elites do. And ignoring the portal in favor of freshmen who aren’t quite developed, so they get exposed vs good teams. Seems like a recipe for loss of elite status. This team is built to compete in the ACC. That’s it for now.
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Our skill Position players aren’t even close to being elite
Jan 3, 2023, 8:22 AM
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To all the people that are blaming the coordinators, stop! When you watched the two games in the CFP, we watched running backs that were a threat to break one at any given time wide receivers that could get open and make plays and quarterbacks that could find them. Our skill position players are average for the ACC? Will Shipley is a little above average back. He’s not a home run threat he’s not a guy you fear he’s going to break one every time he touches the ball unless there’s a gaping hole created by our office of line Will Shipley is a 2 yard Gane running into the back of his own teammates. Or he might break one for eight and get caught with an ankle tackle. How many times has Shipley almost broke one? He wouldn’t start for Michigan he wouldn’t start for Georgia he wouldn’t start for Ohio State. He wouldn’t start for Alabama hell he wouldn’t start for Tulane ? But instead we’re gonna blame the coordinators? Our recruiting is not good and there’s a reason and I don’t know what that reason is that top notch skill position players do not want to come to Clemson? Why? When you load your roster with three star wrs and rbs who aren’t ranked in the espn top 300 what do you expect?? Cade cannot do it himself but I don’t know if we’re going to be back in the CFP any time soon. Watching alabama I was grateful we didn’t play them. We’d have been embarrassed. I watch the Rose Bowl and I’m not sure if we could beat Penn State or Utah? I know we wouldn’t have beaten, beaten TCU. Michigan would’ve beaten us. Ohio State would’ve embarrassed us, and Georgia would’ve done the same. Tennessee beat us by 17 without their two star receivers, and a quarterback that should’ve won the Heisman. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard oh we should’ve beaten them because we’ve had nine drives inside the 30 yard line. Well, we didn’t beat them because we didn’t score on most of those nine drives. Our offensive line has been anemic since Trevor’s last year how? How do you consider yourself an elite program and you don’t shore up the offensively line? The reality is we are headed for mediocrity with our current roster. Get used to it.
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Re: TNET: Clemson’s offense needs more than just a dynamic QB
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I think it’s true Dabo doesn’t have the same fire he did as a young coach. Winning the ACC is great but honestly nobody is impressed by that when there is only one other team in the conference that looks competitive. And loosing to those chickens is inexcusable. It’s blatantly obvious we are getting out coached. We struggle to score on teams with much less talent who we would have put 50 points on 4 years ago. Then when anybody questions to Dabo what’s going on he gets angry and talks about our past success. There is absolutely no top tier team hiring this many coaches with NO experience coaching college football. And NO top tier teams so strongly opposed to the transfer portal even though we say we will “use it when we need it”. Is struggling to score against Furman not a sign we need help? Streeter is clearly in over his head and wasting talented QBs. He made DJU into a train wreck who just got worse the more time he was with us. Even Trevor seemed to decline in quality before he left. But the worst part of it all is that I see no desire to change anything until we start losing like we did in the 2000s and with the current quality of our conference that would be a massive drop.
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