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New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision
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New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 8:01 AM

 
Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision

The decision on whether to declare for the NFL Draft or stay in school another year is perhaps the biggest decision a college football player can make, even bigger than deciding on which school to attend. Millions of dollars might be on the line, and it isn’t to be taken lightly. Sometimes, the best decision is to stay in school. Full Story »


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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 8:08 AM

I'm sorry, but given that information I do not see Taylor Hearn going in the first two rounds. Why was Dabo so supportive? Was it because he knew Taylor was going regardless of what he said and he wanted to support his player? Sounds like a lot of players need to stay put, develop their bodies and develop their game some more. These "agents" who are pulling these kids out (or at least filling their heads with the scent of money) are nothing but ######. They only have their best interest at heart, not the kids.

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I get the impression on the Hearn decision that he ...


Jan 8, 2018, 8:27 AM

just wants to move on with or without football. If he gets drafted it'll be late rounds.

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Jan 8, 2018, 8:28 AM [ in reply to Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision ]

I've said that until I got exhausted but, these kids are going to listen to the ones that are going to benefit-gain of cash in their interest like agents and family members. I don't get a penny, but I've been right more times than I've been wrong, and that is only bc the NFL is already full of talented and experience players that they aren't going to let go on a gamble that a rookie may be as good or better than what they already have. The best teams don't gamble, they wait on the experienced players that teams let go to gamble on the rookies!!! When you allow the thought of money interfere with choices, usually you will choose wrong bc money will always be a huge temptation!!!

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 9:56 AM

I totally agree I feel like some of these guys are getting not the best info bc the ppl in their ear have money to gain. Also their families might think their family member is better and will go higher than they actually are. I def think ray ray got some bad advise and don't see him going very high at all and same goes for Hearn and prob Van too they all def could improve by staying. With hearing all this I really hope the dline guys that are debating on whether to leave decide to stay bc they made a very good point with all the qbs coming out and tbh these advisors and ppl that do draft simulations are usually not the best at getting it right. Hate to see any kid leave their school early and end up not getting drafted. I think the NFL should do something like the NBA where players can do combine and stuff as long as they don't sign with a agent they can choose to return to school bc there is a huge problem with the amount of kids leaving early and end up being the worse choice of their lives!!

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 1:13 PM

Very well said, and I surly couldn't have put any better or plainer. And I also agree with a system like what the NBA does so to keep these kids with their scholarship if they change their mind after testing the water and want to go back to school if they decide to do so. MOST of the FB agents are going to sell these a dream that they can not give them, and all they have to do is get them signed in any round to get paid bc they will get rich by the numbers. And with the NFL, the numbers will be much larger than the NBA draft numbers will ever be. So yes, 100% agree there should be an out for college junior wanting to test the waters for the NFL, and it's unfair that they have to lose their scholarships just to see what's out there for them!!!!

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Hearn already has his degree. Another year would more


Jan 8, 2018, 9:09 AM [ in reply to Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision ]

than likely not improve his draft status so I can see why Dabo supports Hearn's decision to leave. Unlike a lot of coaches (looking at you Kirby Smart), Dabo cares more about these guys getting their degrees than anything else. If a player has earned their college degree then Dabo has accomplished his main objective and he seems to always support the players with whatever decision they make - even if it is to transfer to another program.

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Re: Hearn already has his degree. Another year would more


Jan 8, 2018, 10:34 AM

Dabo has promised all these kid's parents he will do all he can to see to it they earn their degree. They have to do their part by studying, etc, but Dabo keeps his promises. The kids and their parents all too often get the dollar signs in their eyes, and get unrealistic expectations about their worth as a potential pro. IMO, most would benefit from staying another year (key word there is "most", I did not say all). I just hope our guys just listen to the reality, rather than the dream and really make the best decision for their future. I would bet that, most of the time, that best decision is to stay another year. JMO

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Re: Hearn already has his degree. Another year would more


Jan 8, 2018, 1:27 PM

The coaches and team owners say that very same thing every year!!!

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 9, 2018, 1:46 AM [ in reply to Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision ]

IMHO, big mistakes in both cases. Each of them could have benefited from another year of college football, especially at a program like Clemson. Was either of them All-American? I doubt it.

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If I go, there will be trouble***


Jan 8, 2018, 8:23 AM



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Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile,
Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!


If I stay it will be double.***


Jan 8, 2018, 9:04 AM



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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 8:24 AM

Based on your discussion, Wilkins and Ferrell will most likely be 2nd round picks (Christian probably 1st). Hyatt probably not, and Cain, unless he blisters his Pro Day workouts, won't either. A. Bryant probably won't either. The decision becomes more based on what's next for these great young men, and sort of a leap of faith. Either way, they will be well trained for success out in the real world!

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 9:40 AM

Keep in mind these are just projections and "grades," not necessarily written in stone. As the article mentioned, Nuk was advised to stay but went in the first round.

The issue skewing these grades are the QBs. They're projecting a lot going in the first round, although I don't see any real franchise QB's in this draft outside of maybe Darnold.

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 10:44 AM

Yet Clemson did nothing for him...
I sure hope he's managing his money properly, since all he has to fall back on is his Daniel diploma.

#salty

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 11:29 AM [ in reply to Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision ]

I totally agree about these QBs. Maybe a couple will be good, but not all seven. Hyped up for sure, not one I would want my team to waste a first round pick on.

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I don't think the run on 1st round QBs


Jan 8, 2018, 12:26 PM [ in reply to Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision ]

Will happen. The NFL insider on NBC Sunday Night Football(forgot his name) said he's talked to GMs and that Rosen and Darnold are now considered below Watson, Trubisky, and Mahonnes. When asked if he thought that meant Cleveland wouldn't take a QB, he said "it doesn't matter what they do as it will be the wrong move, regardless" LOL- so true

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Re: I don't think the run on 1st round QBs


Jan 8, 2018, 1:38 PM

Waiting until they have played their last year of college ball takes the risk out of it for the kids bc it's now or never. But with juniors, if they had that last year, it could have been the difference between no or no go, and they don't have that college degree as a junior most of the time. And they will have to go back and get their degree after finishing on their own dime!!!

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Re: I don't think the run on 1st round QBs


Jan 9, 2018, 6:27 PM

Last statement not true, any Clemson player can come back anytime to finish their degree on scholarship

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Re: I don't think the run on 1st round QBs


Jan 9, 2018, 10:19 PM

Still proud of Tree Rollins for graduating at 60!

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 9, 2018, 1:48 AM [ in reply to Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision ]

Who is A. Bryant?

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 9, 2018, 6:29 PM

Austin Bryant

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Regarding the Advisory committee...


Jan 8, 2018, 8:36 AM

I heard an interview with Chad Speck on Mickey's show a few weeks back and he discussed this in depth. If someone else heard the interview then feel free to add to or correct me on anything.

Each school is only allowed to submit 5 (I think thats correct) underclassmen each year for an evaluation. That means some of the guys on the team don't even get an evaluation.

And it goes like this....

They either give you a 'likely to go in 1st round', 'likely to go in 2nd round' or '3rd round or later'. They don't give you a 'likely not to be drafted' grade. So, a lot of guys (maybe a McCloud and guys like Scott, Kearse and Green in years past) get a 3rd round or better projection and they all think they'll go to the combine and show out and move up. But reality is that the NFL doesn't have them in the plans at all.

He said its also always a struggle because many players dont want to hear the truth and only want to hear what they believe to be true. It was a really insightful interview....cant remember exactly what day it aired though.

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The only thing not mentioned that players have to evaluate


Jan 8, 2018, 8:42 AM

is what will the draft look like next year for a given position. For example, a hypothetical, if you are say a Wr and in this years draft there isnt a lot of wrs but next years draft it looks like there will be a boat load, then you might consider still going early with a lower grade and rolling the dice because next year even if you improved you may be washed outby the number of talented guys coming out

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Re: The only thing not mentioned that players have to evaluate


Jan 8, 2018, 8:54 AM

If they are elite good, it won't matter when they go bc there will be teams waiting for them to enter the draft!!! People forget that the NFL don't take them by how many are there, they will take the best that is out there. Those NFL guys know what they want and what they are looking for....

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my point is that there are 7 rounds 224 picks


Nov 18, 2014, 12:19 PM

and those picks will be made no matter what the talent level is and no pick will go unfilled. Im not talking about the elite guys as those guys will get in no matter what, im more referring to that border line guy who just wants a chance. Sometimes all a player needs or wants is a foot in the door and a chance. These guys may not make the team, but can be put on practice squads, which may be the best chance some border line guys have. They will be able to practice full time with some of the best coaches available to improve. They will also make some connections with these coaches and these coaches will also know their work ethic and other intangibles they normally would not be privy to. If you are projected as a late pick/borderline this year and next year there are a lot of studs coming out, unless you drastically improve you may still be borderline or knocked out of the draft completely the next year. If this is the scenario, you might consider leaving early with a late projection cause it could be the best chance you have.

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I think this is a big reason Cain will leave


Jan 8, 2018, 9:05 AM [ in reply to The only thing not mentioned that players have to evaluate ]

There really aren't any elite WRs in this draft other than Calvin Ridley. He's better than Cain, but they are virtually the same size and probably about the same speed. At that position, you pretty much can make your draft position at the combine. If Deon runs sub 4.4/40 he'll get drafted in the top 3 rounds even with all the drops and flaws in his game.

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Re: Regarding the Advisory committee...


Jan 8, 2018, 8:50 AM [ in reply to Regarding the Advisory committee... ]

This is what is so funny about that, when they don't get what they expect to get, they 100% believe that they were disrespected by the teams that fork over the money for the services of the best players in the country. The people that were telling them to leave early, they are telling them now, I can't believe they passed on you bc I think that that you are the best out there, and it's their lost. The LOL part is, it's not their loss bc there is a 100 players trying for that spot, or trying to hold on to that spot!!!

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Re: Regarding the Advisory committee...


Jan 8, 2018, 9:45 AM [ in reply to Regarding the Advisory committee... ]

Heard that interview as well, it was pretty good.

But yes, each school can submit for a grade for up to 5 underclassmen, the grades are as you mentioned "potential" 1st, 2nd, 3rd or later. There isn't a "stay in school" grade, but it is implied with a 3rd round or later grade.

I will agree that a lot of players probably think they'll go to the combine and improve their grades because they see it happen every year and for some reason teams take a lot of what people do in underwear into account.

The big factor is the position depth in each class. For example this year, a lot of QBs are projected in the first round which can push other positions back. If a team takes a QB at 1, their next pick is going to fill an immediate need rather than going after best available.

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Yet Scott, Kearse and Green all.


Jan 8, 2018, 12:35 PM [ in reply to Regarding the Advisory committee... ]

Made the right choice by going. Scott's mad the least but he brought in 100K+this year has signed a contract which means its likely he makes 500k next year and will be 2 years away from signing a longer term deal if he can stick. Had he waited a year- he would have just been pushing that all back a year -you only have a certain # of football years in you

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This could be coots worst nightmare


Jan 8, 2018, 8:37 AM

Imagine if we return Wilkins, Bryant, and Ferrell on the line with XT and Henry coming in. I really think with this info, unless they are just ready to go or willing to roll the dice, Bryant and Ferrell could stay. Ferrell already said leading up to the bowl he is open to staying. This would be huge, as this was the side of the ball with the most possible losses to replace. On offense we arent losing a lot and in fact are loading up at most positions, and if we kept an olineman like Hyatt watch out.

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Re: This could be coots worst nightmare


Jan 8, 2018, 11:04 AM

Agreed and I see the Vic Beasley scenario being the same for Ferrell.

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Article neglects a major reason for decision: injury risk


Jan 8, 2018, 8:47 AM

These guys lay it on the line every Saturday in a sport where there is 100% risk of injury. One wrong hit and your career could be over or your way of life could be severely compromised. Say you're a guy like Austin Bryant. Since his senior year of high school, this has been one of the few years he's actually made it through the year without sustaining a notable injury. The likelihood is that if he plays another year of college he'll probably get hurt again. Do you risk that knowing you may have a 2nd or 3rd draft selection locked up?

It's a tough decision for these guys, but I can't fault them for trying to start their earnings clock as early as possible. The insurance stuff you can get is really not all it's cracked up to be. For most guys, they are only in the league a couple of years anyway and the really fortunate guys may be able to play til they are 30.

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Re: Article neglects a major reason for decision: injury risk


Jan 8, 2018, 9:00 AM

Risk is the name of the game, and taking hits and surviving them is part of that risk!!!

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Re: Article neglects a major reason for decision: injury risk


Jan 8, 2018, 9:47 AM [ in reply to Article neglects a major reason for decision: injury risk ]

While true, what if you don't get drafted? Then you're 20 or 21 years old, without a degree, and you have to pay your way to finish school.

Yes, coming back means risk of injury but it also means you get your degree which can have an impact on the rest of your life if you're injured, or if you don't actually make it in the league.

Remember, just because you're drafted doesn't mean you're going to make a team and have a successful career.

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most of these kids have either graduated


Jan 8, 2018, 12:49 PM

Or within a semester or 2 of graduating. They would have no problem coming back to school if they want to/need to. That is so overblown. This isn't 1985 where a player could have been at a school for 3 years and still only have FR credits. We have a number of undergrad assts that are former players. If they sign any kind of NFL deal they could put language in to cover 1 yr of school if they want. There is plenty other assistance available and more of these kids today's families can come up with a year of tuition or they could work and go to school likeprobably over 50% of your avg joes do for 4 years not just 1.

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Re: Article neglects a major reason for decision: injury risk


Jan 9, 2018, 6:36 PM [ in reply to Re: Article neglects a major reason for decision: injury risk ]

Any Clemson player can come back to Clemson and get their degree on scholarship. Don’t know how it works because it doesn’t count against recruiting, but some group is paying for those players to come back. We have several players now, one in his 40’s or more that came back last year to get his degree

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 8:47 AM

Sobering article David. Thx

Makes the first few Tiger elections (WR, OL, S) seem dubious given likely draft outcome. We must remember though there is much more than to a personal decision than just money than we are privy to. I wish them, and others to come, well in whatever they decide to do.

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 8:50 AM

Hyatt should stay, he regressed this year and if you check the draft boards he’s well down the rankings from where he started the year. He plain needs to get bigger, he’s always had a slim build for a tackle but needs quality weight. I know everyone points to the “All ACC” and such accolades they s player receives, but they mean nothing to the pros, and honestly many times they’re due to name recognition and not necessarily merit.

Bryant is a great player but doesn’t have the quick step that teams look for in a first round DE. However it’s a relatively weak DE class so I wouldn’t blame him for going now. Ferrell had the athleticism to go first round IMO, I’d be surprised if he stays.

Cain, that’s a tough one, he definitely didn’t impress this year. He could hurt his stock further if guys like Higgins take some of his reps

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 8:53 AM

At this point, I'm hoping that at least Hyatt, Joseph, and one of the 3 DL return. Any more returning would be great, but likely not realistic.

Man, though, wouldn't it be awesome if all 3 DL return!

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Don't think schools get NFL evaluations on obvious players


Jan 8, 2018, 8:56 AM

Pretty sure schools are limited in the number of players that can get evaluated. If a guy is a lock to be a 1st round pick, why submit an evaluation (ie. C. Wilkins)? I don't think DW4 submitted anything the previous year either. They typically save those for guys who truly are question marks.

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 8:59 AM

I still think Ferrell & Wilkins are First round picks. Austin Bryant goes late 2nd or early 3rd. Hyatt is 3rd round, and has to decide how much higher he thinks he will go if waiting for 2019.

All of these players have confidence in themselves to prove they can make it. Most of them have the ability, and just need to put in the work needed to succeed. Unfortunately, much of a players pro success depends on the team & coaching they get at the next level. That's a big gamble no matter what round or even if you are a free agent.

The rookie minimum salary is $480K. It's the signing bonuses that increase the higher you are picked. The real money is made after your rookie deal is completed.

So, each player has to ask themselves if $480K the first year is worth more to them than waiting for a higher signing bonus if they wait and improve for next year.

It would be a tough choice for anyone.

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 12:12 PM

If you look at the size of Van and Ray Ray they are unlikely to be in the 1st 2 rounds next year. Both work hard and possibly could play in the league for more than 3 years.... then they would get paid well. In the meantime, I think they have as good a shot of playing in the NFL next year as they would after playing at Clemson another year.

I am interested to see of Scott makes an active roster next year after spending this year on the practice squad... i think he makes it.

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 9:30 AM

The other MAJOR piece of this puzzle (decision) is how rookie contracts are set up. It's the reason a draft score comes back as R1, R2 or neither.

Basically, R1 contracts are fully guaranteed, R2 picks 1-16 are mostly guaranteed, but the bottom half of R2 contracts only the signing bonus is guaranteed, after R3 nothing much is guaranteed.

Read that again....

Only 32 players hit the really big guaranteed jackpot, the next 16 less so and the next 16 get a guaranteed signing bonus only.

That's only 64 players out of how many?!

R3+ contracts are "guaranteed" only if that player is on an active roster, which really means they can be cut at anytime before then...

It's why teams don't usually cut R1 and R2 players, because they're on the hook for the $$ and are invested in that player, so to speak. Beyond R2, the players are on their own, in terms of any type of job security or guaranteed employment.

Lastly, each NFL team is comprised of only 53 active players. Read that one again too and do some math and probability analysis on it....

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 11:22 AM

True, but the problem is, dang near all of them think they won't be the ones who don't make it. They've been told (and shown) since they were little that they were the best there is, so they have this sense they will be successful, no matter what the realistic expectations they should have are. I doubt it changes, though.

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 12:13 PM

Agreed and my point was not that they should not give the NFL a shot and pursue their dream but that if they're not a "sure thing" (R1 or R2) then they should stay in school MAINLY to get their degree along with polishing their football skills.

It's a long shot to make it in the league longer than 2-3 years, if at all, but at least you have a degree to fall back on.

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Agree!


Jan 8, 2018, 9:33 AM

I certainly agree. I think these guys should finish up their senior year in school. Coming back will help players to be drafted in the first round. Some of the players from Clemson really do need to come back for their final year. Going now does not guarantee a fist or second round pick. Come back build up your stats and then leave. I always disagree with players leaving in their junior year, they are just simply too young! So I just wish that the others will think about their performance from last year and this year season, did I want to leave Clemson like this? Leave Clemson on a winning season so that the younger guys may want to continue the trend of winning! Guys, please think about this one again! Please do not become a bench warmer that never have any play time or hurt!

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Artavis Scott got his degree, so leaving early didn’t hurt him...


Jan 8, 2018, 10:38 AM

as he wouldn’t have improved his draft stock by coming back. David Hood left out the part that a number of our early departures over the past few years got their degrees or stated they intend to come back and get there degree.

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didn’t know Hopkins played in the National League...


Jan 8, 2018, 10:41 AM

Wow caught me off guard never knew he played baseball. Hopkins is doing it all baseball, football, fashion.

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Re: didn’t know Hopkins played in the National League...


Jan 8, 2018, 11:23 AM

He did play both sports until his senior year at Clemson, I think.

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Re: didn’t know Hopkins played in the National League...


Jan 8, 2018, 8:43 PM [ in reply to didn’t know Hopkins played in the National League... ]

I didn't realize he played football for Clemson University.......news to me.....Go Tigers!!!!!!

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Re: New Story: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Many times, staying is the right decision


Jan 8, 2018, 10:42 AM

Thanks for the great article, this was a very interesting read. I haven't taken the time to search for information on how this works, and had always wondered.

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None of those QB’s are technically ready for the NFL***


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Some times, staying for senior season does not help NFLdraft


Jan 8, 2018, 12:19 PM

Humphries played in a total of 53 games and starting 27 of them for Clemson from 2011 to 2014. Through his college career, he had a total of 127 receptions for 1,097 yards (8.6 avg.) and three touchdowns, as well as 10 carries for 24 yards and one touchdown and 69 punt returns for 476 yards (6.9 avg.) and one touchdown.[1]

Coming out of Clemson, Humphries was projected by the majority of analysts to go undrafted and to be signed as a priority undrafted free agent. He was ranked the 144th best wide receiver out of the 351 available by NFLDraftScout.com. He was not invited to the NFL Scouting Combine but was able to show his abilities in front of scouts and representatives from all 32 NFL teams at Clemson's annual Pro Day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Humphries

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