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Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 10:43 AM
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This is not an attempt to troll...just my gut interpretation.
Dabo is reminding us that this is college football, not pro, and sometimes it's about putting the good kid who has paid his dues on the field instead of the younger, more talented kid. That's Dabo's "culture" and he's going to stick with it. That's all this is.
Plus, in his eyes, it's good enough to win 10 games and have a shot at the conference title. So it is completely justified.
If you follow Dabo's previous moral condemnations of college football incorporating rules that make it seem like pro football, it makes sense.
I disagree that benching DJ for Cade would compromise the culture, but Dabo doesn't see it that way.
Plain and simple.
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 10:47 AM
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Dabo's Culture and the current state of "College Football" have been on a collision course for the last two years. That train wreck happened Saturday night. I have preached it over and over on here. At some point Dabo will have to decide between culture and winning and it appears the decision has been made.
Now flame away if you must.
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LOL
Nov 29, 2022, 10:51 AM
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An average QB would have doubled his completions
Nov 29, 2022, 11:06 AM
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DJ is not average. He has potential. I like the guy, I root for the guy.
I agree with the OP. The reason that we are so baffled is so simple. It's a promise.
I'm assuming that CDS saw that we were not a Playoff contender. And he is sticking with his commitment with DJ for the next two games.
I think DJ will transfer and this $hitstorm that we are in will pass.
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Re: An average QB would have doubled his completions
Nov 29, 2022, 2:15 PM
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I hope you are right
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 11:10 AM
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No what I am saying is 100% reality. I am 100% behind the decisions that Dabo makes he has earned that. I am also 100% for the culture that he has built. A culture that you don't have to worry about a player saying "we dropped them nutz" during a press conference.
But the reality is our culture kept a less than average player driving our offense, while we were shredded by a transfer portal quarter back and a transfer portal wide receiver.
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 11:22 AM
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 12:01 PM
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DJ sucking at playing QB is the biggest of the many problems. A decent player at the most important position makes the coaches and receivers look much better.
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 1:01 PM
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Losing to the coots is not “one more game”. This is akin to asking what Eisenhower would give to defeat the Germans. It is good vs evil. Godliness vs Godlessness. Tastes great vs Less Filling. This is a battle for the soul of our state.
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I think that's pretty spot on.....
Nov 29, 2022, 10:55 AM
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I haven't talked to anybody who "likes" the portal, BUT it's here and it's gotta be utilized and embraced..........last year virtually no Clemson media members would admit that the portal needs to be used..........now they're saying it, that includes every WCCP radio host and Tnets own David Hood..........will Dabo do it? We shall see.
I haven't talked to anybody who "likes" NIL, BUT it's here and it's gotta be utilized.........and that part has begun at Clemson with the Neff/Dabo "we need to talk" video.
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Nov 29, 2022, 10:57 AM
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 10:49 AM
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I can’t argue with any of that. As for me, I’m hoping for a twelve win season. For a Clemson fan and supporter for 60+ years , there hasn’t been many of those.
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 10:53 AM
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What about the rest of the starters who have paid their dues? Is it fair to the receivers or players around a quarterback who isn't producing? Is it fair to the defense who is on the field more than they should be or making up for a turnover?
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I think seniority and loyalty should buy you the first spot
Nov 29, 2022, 11:06 AM
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in line, but shouldn't guarantee that you keep that first spot.
Also, clearly Dabo doesn't actually think that Seniority means you keep that first spot, because he's benched the most senior player multiple times in his time at Clemson.
So this is nothing but coachspeak to cover bad decisions.
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Old Paul Johnson huh ?
Nov 29, 2022, 11:07 AM
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LOL
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what an odd obsession you have.***
Nov 29, 2022, 6:36 PM
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Not so sure... why then
Nov 29, 2022, 11:09 AM
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At the beginning of the season (and I'm sure during the recruiting process) that every position is a competition, and no starting position is won until proven. Why is Antonio Williams starting as a freshman if other on the team have paid their dues and have been with the team longer. There's no way we could recruit if we were going to default to the older playing (that may not be the best). There is only 1 of 3 explanations why Dabo is doing what he is doing:
1) Cade is not as good as advertised (at least during practice)
2) DJ was promised the reigns this year with the agreement to move on next year (for Cade and future QBs)
3) Perhaps DJ has so much support from his teammates, that a QB change would disrupt the locker room and cause some sort of fall out?
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Re: Not so sure... why then
Nov 29, 2022, 11:17 AM
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This does not make any sense.
DJ defenders bash Cade badly in order to prove DB is right. Where is your “Good kid” theory? When talking about Cade, that theory is just thrown out of the window.
Such double standard BS.
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Re: Not so sure... why then
Nov 29, 2022, 11:27 AM
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What's your theory as to why a QB with 25% completion is kept in the game?
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The answer is that merit is an important factor....
Nov 29, 2022, 11:30 AM
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but it's not the only factor for Dabo. There is also commitment, loyalty, honoring promises, etc.
Merit may be the only factor in the modern business world, but Dabo thinks other things matter as well.
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Merit in business is a thing of the past***
Nov 29, 2022, 4:39 PM
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He’s not too morally opposed to the professionalization of college athletics
Nov 29, 2022, 11:51 AM
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To take an 11.5 million dollar yearly paycheck so this doesn’t really hold water
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 11:57 AM
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So why did he bench Stoudt in 14, and Bryant in 18 if it’s just not the right thing to do?
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Great question and I don't really have an answer....
Nov 29, 2022, 12:14 PM
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Was it that Stoudt was not as highly recruited and Dabo is worried about the reputational hit of benching a 5-star like DJ?
Was it something about Kelly Bryant's attitude compared to DJ's that made him easier to bench?
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 12:12 PM
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A couple of comments. Make no mistake. Dabo is a highly paid professional coach - reference attached NFL coaching salaries. He earns more than all but top 10% of NFL coaches maybe more with advertising/sponsorships.
COACH TEAM ANNUAL SALARY
1. Sean McVay LA Rams $15-18 million
2. Bill Belichick NE Patriots $12.5 million
3. Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks $11 million
4. Kyle Shanahan San Fran 49ers $9.5 million
5. John Harbaugh Baltimore Ravens $9 million
6. Franck Reich Indianapolis Colts $9 million
7. Matt Rhule Carolina Panthers $8.5 million
8. Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh Steelers $8 million
9. Andy Reid KC Chiefs $8 million
10. Sean McDermott Buffalo Bills $8 million
Ron Rivera Washington Commanders $7 million
Nick Sirianni Philadelphia Eagles $6-7 million
Kliff Kingsbury Arizona Cardinals $5.5 million
Matt LaFleur Green Bay Packers $5 million
Robert Saleh New York Jets $5 million
Zac Taylor Cincinnati Bengals $4.5 million
Mike McCarthy Dallas Cowboys $4 million
Nathaniel Hackett Denver Broncos $4 million
Kevin Stefanski Cleveland Browns $4 million
Secondly, I respect Dabo's opinion as Head Coach to play whoever he wants as well as anyone's opinion on the players Dabo chooses to play. Free speech is what I believe it's called in America. I understand soldiers died for that right. Go Tigers!
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 12:16 PM
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I think it's as simple as
Nov 29, 2022, 12:20 PM
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in spite of how much we may not like it, the coaches feel DJ gives us the best chance to win. Winning is the goal, so it's the right thing to do.
We can disagree with basically no info from practice, or meetings, or how players feel, but to suggest otherwise is to say Dabo just doesn't care about winning.
Sadly, many here seem to feel that way. They care more than the players and coaches about winning. And they say Dabo is arrogant
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Re: I think it's as simple as
Nov 29, 2022, 1:07 PM
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I agree that the coaching staff believes that DJ gives us the best chance of winning. What I want an explanation of is how a QB who has stunk for 2 years is the best choice in a room with 3 five star QB? Its beyond obvious that we missed on DJ. He has the foot speed of an offensive lineman, can't run a RPO, is a head case. Who decided to recruit that clown? After we recruited him and saw what we got why didn't we get a better option out of the transfer portal?
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One is a true freshman
Nov 29, 2022, 4:41 PM
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the other came here to coach after riding the bench at Northwestern
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Sounds like a small Christian High School
Nov 29, 2022, 12:25 PM
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not a major college football program. That philosophy won’t work at this level, he should remember that he got to the level by making those difficult decisions. Benching Cole Stoudt for DW4 and Benching Kelly Bryant for Trevor Lawrence after Kelly led us to the CFB Playoff. Back then the phrase “Best is Standard” carried some weight. You had to be the best to keep your position or job (Kevin Steele, Billy Napier, and Andre Powell learned that lesson). Today that standard has been changed to “10 wins is good enough”.
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 12:27 PM
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So you're saying Dabo didn't do what was right when he made Watson and Tlaw the starters?
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Maybe he's simply saying something like
Nov 29, 2022, 12:51 PM
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"Y'all have paid me, and are still paying me, a ton of money to run this program and the buck stops here. I make decisions that I think is right for this program not what anyone else thinks is right. I'm on the payroll and have that job - others aren't and don't. If I had done what others thought was right over what I thought was right over life I wouldn't be sitting here in front of you today."
Dabo seems to have no issue taking on full responsibility for every facet of this program, and it's clear he's not pawning off any questionable decisions on anyone else. That's kind of what you want in a leader, isn't it?
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 12:57 PM
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Then you're saying BEST is Not Standard.
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 4:27 PM
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Cotton,
IF Dabo is not playing the players that give the team the best chance of winning each game, then he should be fired immediately and/or every player should enter the transfer portal. This is antithetical to all competitive sports.
I previously could not think of anything that might make me abandon my Tigers, but IF this blasphemy was ever confirmed - that would be it for me.
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 4:36 PM
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I hope dabo culture thing does work. Matter of fact it is working. Sure, we dropped a few games, but so did everyone else.
I'm not a fan of just do what everyone else is doing. That will only get you so far. Mike leach is right, dabo is right and the army offense. It's just a different style but can produce wins. Just like the portal teams. It can all work.
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That's probably as close to right
Nov 29, 2022, 5:00 PM
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as we'll ever know. Good take.
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 7:32 PM
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He is not able to admit a mistake in the hiring of Streeter as OC or other internal hires or is ready for any criticism of the talent at QB position- so real defensive. surrounded by "yes" people? the thinking is winning ACC games is 'good enough', sees starting over with new coaches as risky, attitude is just win the ACC games and school is happy, not ready for any major change- collect a huge paycheck each year.
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Re: Here is what I think Dabo means by "what I think is right"..
Nov 29, 2022, 7:35 PM
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I think he is saying Cade isn’t as good as DJ.
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