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Orange Blooded [4561]
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How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
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Apr 12, 2023, 7:07 PM
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Worse.
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Apr 12, 2023, 7:11 PM
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If Garrett tried to force DJ into his system, DJ doesn't seem to have quick enough decision making to operate it. Garrett would need to adapt an offense similar to Street's pared down play sheet.
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I think DJ’s issues ran much deeper than…
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Apr 12, 2023, 7:12 PM
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who his OC was. For whatever reason, his mind and heart were not in football at Clemson.
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Oculus Spirit [76890]
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Correct.***
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Apr 12, 2023, 7:56 PM
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I definitely think Streeter was part of the problem, but
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agree that there was something more going on with DJ, and based on what little I understand about the new offense, I'm thinking DJ wouldn't be a great fit.
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CU Guru [1487]
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I've asked this before, what could Streeter have done differently.***
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Apr 13, 2023, 2:48 AM
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I haven't played football since midget league when I was
Apr 13, 2023, 9:35 AM
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12 years old, so I can't speak to the intricacies of how a big time college offense works, but Dabo sure can, and he fired Streeter for a reason. Based on my extremely limited knowledge, it was obvious to me that our offensive problems went far beyond DJ last season.
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CU Guru [1487]
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You, Sir, said you thought Streeter was part of DJ's problem
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Apr 13, 2023, 9:37 AM
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Are you just basing that on him getting let go?
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No, but it goes like this ...
Apr 13, 2023, 4:02 PM
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DJ was not very good last year (or the year before). I have stated before that I believe he had his own set of problems and shortcomings.
Also, our offense was not very good overall last year. I thought that had a lot to do with Streeter, apart from DJ and his problems. I'm not saying that because he was fired, as I believed that all along; his firing just confirms it.
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CU Guru [1487]
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Yes sir but
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Apr 13, 2023, 4:35 PM
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What could have Streeter done differently while calling plays for one season? It doesn't make sense to say it was even partially his fault unless you can explain what you "saw" to formulate that opinion. It makes sense what I'm saying, right?
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Just my opinion, and I will not debate it any further with
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Apr 13, 2023, 6:24 PM
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you, because it's assinine. I can say "X", and you can respond with "that's wrong because Y", and neither one of us can prove anything, and that can go on forever with nothing acheived ... but here's my opinion:
We did not utilize the middle of the field enough in the passing game. Our receivers and Oline in particular, but players at every position often looked confused and in the wrong place, like they weren't sure or confident about what they were supposed to be doing. Our playcalling was terrible. Bottom line, the offense was bad last year, and it was Streeter's offense; he designed it and coached it.
You are free to disagree, but I don't have anymore to say about it.
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CU Guru [1487]
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Sir, you haven't posted a single actual point to disagree with.
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Apr 14, 2023, 12:29 AM
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That's kind of the point.
What didn't you like about the playcalling? Can we start there?
I mean I get you didn't like the outcome of the season, but what was it you didn't like about the playcalls specifically? If you have a basis for saying Street was part of the problem, then tell me what you saw that was a problem, please.
I'm not arguing just for the sake of arguing. Heck, we're not even debating anything specific other than a very wide open statement about it partially being Streeter's fault. Gotta be something you can describe.
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CU Guru [1487]
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Hey Smiling. I think you and I have no issues, and I just want to confirm..
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Apr 14, 2023, 2:01 PM
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You're not the guy TDing me, right?
If not, then we know who it is. No dog in the fight whatsoever - just an insatiable miserable need to TD leads to the one and only guy in the site with 20k TDs, and he doesn't like when I call him out for his petulance, aka "truth hurts". TDing posts with no rhyme or reason and getting a woody about it leads to only one guy on the site with the psychotic TD fetish, Bloodbeorange.
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CU Guru [1487]
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And one further point..
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Apr 14, 2023, 9:26 AM
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With your fan's eye view, what did YOU specifically see that made you think the OL and WR were "confused"?
You seem like a highly respectable guy, so I don't mean to sound condescending, but really, you didn't personally ever think to yourself after a play, "wow, the OL and WR looked confused on that play", did you? If you actually witnessed this as a problem, and it was so prevalent that it affected the season, then surely you can provide a couple examples of each, no? A player or two and a play or a few?
I'm more prone to think you're parroting something you heard someone else say, honestly, and again, it's not personal at all. You're a cool dude, Smiling, but in this case I think you are wrong.
I hope I can help flip you to the more evidentiary description of our woes, and that's that we had a QB who struggled with several of the basic properties of being a QB (at any level). Composure, mental makeup, super quick decisions, moving around a pocket and buying time, reading the field and progressions when things unfolded differently than ######, accuracy, energetic leadership.. you name it.
DJ, love the guy and hope he succeeds at life, but he was the biggest reason we didn't make the playoffs the last 2 years.
Go Tigers.
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So you think we would have been better than 11-3 if we
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Apr 14, 2023, 12:54 AM
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we tried to throw the ball over the middle of the field more? You think DJ is better at those throws? We actually did throw some to the middle too. Would more of them made us a better offense? Won more games? Could we have beaten ND with more throws over the middle? uSC? UT? Did we not do as well because we tried short, safer passes towards the sidelines.. because that best met DJs ability and confidence?
In reality, we got every single thing out of that QB we could have. Let him throw easier passes, use his big frame to run, secure the ball, positive plays and smaller incremental gains. It was an offense completely designed around a limited QB. We catered to him. Coddled him. We did all we could do.
The biggest glaring issue wasn't the playcalling, it was the guy having to execute them.
Streeter was let go because 1) Cade's was 11 of 22 for 98 yds prior to UNC, and his lack of development was painfully obvious against UT. Dabo wanted Cade to be the guy - he gave him the opportunity to take the position as his own in game 9 against ND, made a HS level mistake and he made several thoughtless decisions against UT that cost us. That was laid at Brandon's feet. That, and Dabo really wanted to move in a more innovative direction on offense. So he went and nabbed the hottest OC in America.
It wasn't so much that Street was a bad X's and O's guy, and he most definitely improved the offense over the previous year, but it was the right time to turn the page.
Streeter will be back on his feet in 2024, and he will be a great coach in the future. I think Dabo would say the same thing.
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That's not true.
Apr 14, 2023, 9:43 AM
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It wasn't just Steeters play calling, it was the offensive system too. I can't really give a fair critique of Streeters play calling because I've never been involved in coaching or playing at that level, but you don't have to be a football expert to see that our offensive system wasn't working anymore.
Streeter spent 7 years learning an offense that was outdated when he finally got his opportunity to run it. That's the problem as much as anything else. If you retain Streeter you retain that offense as well. In order to get a fresh system in here, Dabo had to let Streeter go.
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CU Guru [1487]
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So you're suggesting there was a more effective system for DJ
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Apr 14, 2023, 1:54 PM
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than the one we created for him?
You seem to think we tried to force DJ into a set offensive system, and that's precisely my point. The offense was around 50th not because we tried to fit a square peg into a round hole, but because we had to make the hole a square to accommodate the QB.
There was NOTHING outdated about Elliotts offense. It carried us to the most productive passing game in his 2020 and a playoff birth before the DJ era. What changed in 2021? The QB. That's all.
In 2022, it was a modified Eliott system that was further watered down to help a struggling QB.
Brandon wasn't let go because his offensive philosophy is "outdated". We are simply going in a completely new direction, shedding ourselves from that system altogether.
Think of it like this - if Tony had Trevor in 2021 or if Brandon had Trevor last year, would we have made the playoffs? Would we have thrown for 27.6% against uSC?
Let's be realistic here. Brandon didn't get let go because he's a bad playcaller.
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Re: So you're suggesting there was a more effective system for DJ
Apr 14, 2023, 11:07 PM
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I think that DJ was a square peg trying to fit into a round hole. I love everything about who he is as a person, a player and a teammate. I do not think it was all Streeter's fault. Our offense has went downhill the last three years, including the last with Lawrence. You can always blame OL because it has been a glaring weakness for years now. You can blame development of WRs and QBs. The system had already started to stall and losses made people accountable. DJ was apparently in his head too much. Even when he filled in for Lawrence freshman year his footwork and uncertainty caused him problems. Go back and watch those two games. I think against Notre Dame maybe he didn't have time to get in his head and just went and played. IDK the answer but I hope he balls out in Oregon State.
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Please explain and allow me to reiterate.
Apr 15, 2023, 11:56 AM
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We modified the hole, to fit the square peg as much as possible. You understand that, right?
We're the 2nd winningest program in America during the CFP era. I wouldn't define any position group as a 'problem".
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Like?***
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I thought he looked disappointed. So did my Mother.
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Apr 13, 2023, 9:40 AM
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And Moms know best 😉
I don't think the issue was DJ didn't want to play. I don't think we go 8-0 and set for the playoffs if he didn't want to play.
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
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Apr 12, 2023, 7:25 PM
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Does not matter he is just not good at this level —
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
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I mean, would he have thrown better with a different OC ?? LOL
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Exactly. Can't make the plays and easier than we did, just for DJ.***
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
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He would have put Cade in to start real early!
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We were 8-0 and going to the playoffs. Why
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Apr 13, 2023, 9:42 AM
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would the OC have sat down the starting QB?
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I think he would be able to throw incomplete passes
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And interceptions much faster.
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
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DJ's "5 star" rating never translated to the field. No one would have been able to do anything with him. He will not be any better at Oregon St. I have always heard about confidence being a key quarterback quality and never did I see the lack of it show up more than with DJ. He looked like a whipped puppy most games unless he was able to get up by three scores, and then he played loose and was somewhat more successful. Overall just not the leader that DW and TL was. Cade has some growing to do and the TN game showed us that but the kid does not play scared.
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In all fairness to Cade
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Apr 12, 2023, 8:35 PM
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He did not practice with the starters at all during the season. He said so in the press conference following the ACC championship game.
The reality is, had we simply kept the ball on the ground, even with DJ, we could’ve beaten South Carolina and quite possibly Tennessee. And because of the poor start by DJ against Notre Dame, they got a tremendous amount of confidence and momentum early and we were unable to make adjustments and rebound.
The cold hard reality is, Dabo threw CK under the bus, especially against Notre Dame. CK was not prepared, which is 100% on the shoulders of the coaching staff, and when he did get in against Notre Dame it was inside of our 10 yard line and predictably they came after him with a vengeance. Then to add insult to injury, following the game Dabo said CK wasn’t ready. Of course he wasn’t. He didn’t give the kid a chance. CK was set up to fail to get people off Dabo’s back and to protect DJ.
TL and DW got snaps with the starters from day one and had opportunities to play from the very first game as freshmen. It will always be a conundrum as to why Dabo handled the DJ situation differently. I think a big part of it is his stubbornness. Not wanting to admit that the experts and everyone with the slightest bit of football knowledge could see, which is DJ was terrible. For whatever reason Dabo protected DJ and it cost us the South Carolina and the playoffs, and probably the Tennessee game as well.
And it’s so frustrating because South Carolina had almost the worst rushing defense in college football. They were near the very bottom. And I guys were getting 5+ yards a carry. But we go out there and have DJ try and throw it all over the field. It’s just insane. It defies logic.
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Re: In all fairness to Cade
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I agree 100%. I don't think Cade got a fair shake to showcase what he can do. I only mention him above in comparison to DJ who always played scared.. seemed to me.
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CU Guru [1487]
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Cade was 11 of 22 for 98 yds, 1 TD and 1 INT
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Apr 13, 2023, 2:51 AM
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prior to UNC.
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With little to no practice time. No practice with the starters.
Apr 13, 2023, 5:30 PM
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And almost 0 game experience like TL and DW from the first game as freshman. He was completely set up to fail. He was never given the opportunity to succeed. And that’s still better than DJ against South Carolina after starting two games as a freshman and being a starter as a sophomore and junior.
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Nothing you said in that long-winded reply was true.***
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Everything I wrote was factual and 100% true.
Apr 13, 2023, 5:33 PM
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Clearly you didn’t see the press conference after the ACC championship game where CK said he did did not take a single snap all year with the starters in practice. He got about 30% of the snaps before the championship game.
You’re blinded by your loyalty to Dabo or DJ or whoever. Everything I wrote is completely factual and documented.
I noticed you pulled the left wing reaction. Say I’m wrong or a liar, but don’t correct anything. Don’t document anything I got wrong. Because you can’t! Because every word I wrote was true.
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Re: In all fairness to Cade
Apr 13, 2023, 7:21 AM
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This thread is not about CK or CBS. The OP asked how DJ would do under Riley
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It’s a Discussion. And I was responding to someone else.
Apr 13, 2023, 5:35 PM
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I hope some of your people didn’t go to Clemson because you have zero reading comprehension skills.
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
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DJ was such a bust that his coaches had to prop him up in the media. I lost some of my very high respect for Dabo. I felt lied to.
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He’s clearly not in the same category as DW4 and Trevor, but
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I do think he probably would be better in Riley’s offense. Not saying good enough to win a natty but maybe serviceable enough to get us to the playoffs. DJ and the wideouts were never on the same page and there’s enough blame to go around for both groups. I think the elimination of option routes and the simplification of the route tree would have been a big help last year. We’ve used option routes for two years in our offense, which also happen to be the two worst years passing we’ve had in a decade. Certainly the QB had a lot to do with it, but clearly either the wideouts, QB, or both weren’t able to master that aspect of the offense.
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Ok.
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I agree that DJ was nowhere near as good as DW or TL…not many are, but the following is on this staff;
1. DJ was allowed to get slaughtered against UGA…his confidence from freshman season was gone.
2. DJ should sit for several series during the 2021 season when playing terrible…guy became a great interviewee bc he would answer every question after a terrible game.
3. Should have pulled a good QB out of the portal to push DJ.
4. UofSC loss was more on the coaching staff in my opinion. Not running the ball and going for the throat when we were up two scores…sugar huddle WTH was that?
Lastly, I think we will all be proud that DJ is a Clemson graduate. He will do great things in his life as a gentleman.
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A lot of folks bring up the UGAY game regarding his
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Confidence, but I don't buy it. He looked anemic in the spring game prior to and was carrying 30 lbs too much weight. He wasn't even close to ready to deal with any defense let alone UGAY.
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Agree.
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Even with Kelly Bryant the past two seasons we would have been significantly better despite the injuries and coaching issues. We absolutely would’ve been in the playoffs last year.
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Some questions:
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1. What do you mean he was "allowed to get slaughtered"? You mean by the nation's best DL against a not ready OL, or coaching decisions?
2. Cade was 11 of 22 for 98 yds, a TD, and an INT. Cade wasn't ready. Are you suggesting we should have forced him in there under duress, or should we have forced Hunter Helms in there? I'm thinking they made the decision to keep DJ in there based on a lifetime of coaching experience and knowing DJ's mental makeup as well as the status of the guys behind him.
3. What QB is willing to transfer from a non-playing role to another non-playing role, and if he was good enough to "push" DJ, then he was good enough to go somewhere else and play, which is the reason he was in the portal to begin with. Some folks seem to look at the portal like a used car dealer, where the car doesn't really have a say.
4. We should have run the ball more against uSC, but it's understood why DJ was in there with 10 minutes left after the coots took their first lead.
5. What "sugar huddle" are you talking about, and how did it change the game?
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Re: Some questions:
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Sugar huddle was the kickoff return after the safety where they all ran together like Charlie Brown, then handed the ball off to Mafah and he fumbled.
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That's not why we lost. I don't think anyone in the building really thought we were gonna
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lose that game.. until the fumbled punt.
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Re: That's not why we lost. I don't think anyone in the building really thought we were gonna
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Yeah, I thought we would drive down the field and win with the field goal, but then the fumble happened on the punt. I was just answering your question about the sugar huddle.
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The past two seasons we have been inept.
Apr 13, 2023, 5:39 PM
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Our coaching has been horrific. The South Carolina game was the icing on the cake and put a magnifying glass to the issues of the past two seasons.
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Wait, wut?***
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Apr 13, 2023, 10:00 AM
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
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Apr 12, 2023, 8:49 PM
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Riley would set his big , slow tail on the bench.
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You reckon we would have been 8-0 had he done that?
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Apr 13, 2023, 10:02 AM
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Hunter Helms would have beaten Wake, NCSU, and FSU?
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Re: You reckon we would have been 8-0 had he done that?
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Apr 14, 2023, 10:43 PM
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Easily
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
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Apr 12, 2023, 8:54 PM
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Not well he's too indecisive and not fleet enough on his feet
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I think better coaching and game planning would’ve helped him a lot.***
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Apr 12, 2023, 9:14 PM
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Re: I think better coaching and game planning would’ve helped him a lot.***
Apr 12, 2023, 9:18 PM
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You don’t say Einstein? That’s true for pretty much every athlete. You used to be creative with your trolling. Now you’re a washed up, has been, never was troll.
There’s only 5 Tigernet members left that even likes you.
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Re: I think better coaching and game planning would’ve helped him a lot.***
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Apr 13, 2023, 6:56 AM
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Milton Jenning = irreparable bust who couldn’t be saved by even the great Brad Brownell
DJU = 5 star talent squandered by unqualified coaches
That about sum up your position?
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She's a transparent, hypocrital troll.***
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Apr 13, 2023, 9:59 AM
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Yes, and with better coaching and development by our coaches
Apr 14, 2023, 9:32 AM
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DJ would have likely been able to perform better.
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
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Apr 12, 2023, 9:38 PM
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Wishing DJ the best, but SO GLAD we will never have to find out. IMHO the recruiting challenges on Offense are 90% attributable to Streeter and DJ. Looking forward to Riley and Cade relighting the flame in 2023.
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CU Guru [1487]
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Streeter was OC for 1 yr and the QB improved immensely.
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Apr 13, 2023, 10:06 AM
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We were 8-0 and headed to the playoffs, then we were 10-1 and headed to the playoffs.
And DJ was DJ because of DJ, not because of Streeter.
So you think not getting a QB in this class to sit behind Cade and Chris was Streeter's fault???
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I believe Streeter Offense was poor
Apr 13, 2023, 10:29 AM
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Recruits select schools based upon excellence. Riley brings excellence.
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CU Guru [1487]
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Cool story, bro.
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Apr 13, 2023, 3:50 PM
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We're 2nd in wins during the CFP era. Even completely isolating our, "slide", we are 4th in wins over the last 3 years and 5th in wins over the last two years.
Is that not excellent?
Riley took players rated FAR below what we have here, and he immediately took them to the National Championship.
He needs good and great players. He's shown he doesn't need "excellent" talent to make things work.
Streeter was OC for one season, and we statistically improved in EVERY measurable. And we did that within an obvious handcuffed QB situation. How in blue blazes can you conclude Streeters offense was poor?
We got everything possible out of the situation we had, thanks to a willingness to adapt and create a brand new shrunken play sheet to lessen the impact of DJs weaknesses.
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
Apr 13, 2023, 6:22 AM
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Thankfully, we won’t know. His issues ran much deeper than an OC.
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DJ is gone so it doesn't matter.
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Apr 13, 2023, 6:45 AM
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It wouldn't matter who the OC is, he lost his confidence and moved on. I wish him and Dave well, glad they gone.
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
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Apr 13, 2023, 7:32 AM
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He would have made a serviceable tight end, an outlet for Klubnik to toss to after 1st, 2nd and 3rd options were covered up. Especially with the extra 30 pounds which could have helped his blocking.
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What happens if DJ absolutely lights it up at Oregon State?***
Apr 13, 2023, 8:56 AM
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Re: What happens if DJ absolutely lights it up at Oregon State?***
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Apr 13, 2023, 9:10 AM
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We hire Streeter back on a one-day contract just to fire him again
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
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Apr 13, 2023, 10:13 AM
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He would hold the bench down.
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
Apr 13, 2023, 11:02 AM
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DJ is a real mystery with regard to his time at Clemson. We saw this huge potential his frosh year at ND. Then it was all let downs and unmet expectations from that point forward. I really feel like DJ would have the same struggles under Riley. Balls thrown in the dirt, feet stuck in concrete, just a general lack on confidence pushing the offense down the field. I wish the best for him at OSU, but I don't think DJ would have been any more successful under Riley than he was with Streeter. He would put Riley in a position to simplify the playbook to cater to DJ's needs in my opinion.
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That is such a tired and false narrative.
Apr 13, 2023, 5:46 PM
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DJ threw for a lot of yards in those two games, especially Notre Dame. But anyone that knows anything about football could see how bad he was in every other facet. And he wasn’t even that accurate in those two games. He got bailed out a lot by the receivers. And those two games he gave up to turnovers for touchdowns. One the worst handoff I’ve ever seen in my life to ETN that became a scoop and score and the other when he pitched it straight to the defender who caught it in the air and rambled into the end zone. He was out of shape, indecisive, inaccurate, slow. Cannot read defenses, and have zero confidence.
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
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Apr 13, 2023, 11:37 AM
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Might be in the minority in this but I think DJ would have done better with Riley’s offense. In fact I think DJ and Riley would be able to take a team to the playoffs.
DJ’s biggest problem was above the shoulders. There were long stretches where he just lost confidence or took too long to make a decision and his mechanics would fall apart as a result.
There’s a lot of factors for what causes the lack of confidence, but I think the offense strategy was a big part of it. Every coach or pair of coaches we’ve had at OC since Morris has been adding their own wrinkle to the playbook. The result was an offense that was overly-complicated yet predictable we saw last year.
Riley has introduced a much smaller playbook and focuses on executing those plays perfectly. The biggest advantage a smaller playbook offers is that it is easier to remember and quickly leads to players reacting in instinct instead of thinking through a play. When a play becomes instinct it can take away a lot of the problems we saw with DJ.
I do want to add that it’s not impossible for a QB to succeed with the playbook we ran last year, just that it would need a different kind of player than what DJ could be. Personally I would rather have Riley as OC because tearing down the offense and starting over is best for the program at this point.
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I'd rather have the crabs than DJ no matter what offense.
Apr 13, 2023, 3:21 PM
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He was allowed to remain in the games to the near end to pad his stats so his career wouldn't end. Rather than handing him with kid gloves he should have been put on the bench and let Cade have the experience he needed last year.
I understand that DJ would have quit, taken his toys and gone home but right now we'd be a heck of a lot better off. It will take this entire season to recuperate from DJ.
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
Apr 13, 2023, 3:38 PM
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not well.... just my opinion... he takes too long to process... I could be very wrong but that is based on what he showed the last 2 years.
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
Apr 13, 2023, 6:28 PM
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Bad WR play and inconsistent O-line- if Riley could have helped DJ with that I think he would have been decent
Think DJ got in his own head too, was never the same after the Georgia game in Charlotte after they were in his face and hitting him all night. DJ threw a lot of ducks too, I think he just needed a fresh start and to hear from someone else besides Clemson coaches
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Re: How do you all think DJ would do in Riley’s offense
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Apr 14, 2023, 10:58 PM
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dj sucked the life out of the offense, nobody was going to break their neck running routes knowing it was unlikely for the pass to be within 5 yards of them, unless it was one of daves 125mph 4 yard ruptured duck passes.
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I think a better system would've benefited DJ
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Apr 14, 2023, 9:35 AM
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and he likely wouldve put up better numbers, but I think that's true of any QB.
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DJU is too slow of mind and foot
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Apr 14, 2023, 9:56 AM
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Seeing the field and making decisions were horrible & the inability to scramble or avoid any pressure would be even worse than with Streeter.
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Re: DJU is too slow of mind and foot
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Apr 14, 2023, 10:59 PM
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especially mentally
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It Seemed Like Once DJ's Family Life Got Very Complex
Apr 15, 2023, 9:39 AM
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and he got big time NIL $ he truly lost focus and drive. It happens to humans and only the truly great can compartmentalize the way one needs to.
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