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Hypothesis: The lower vaccine rate is Biden Admin's fault
Jul 26, 2021, 3:28 PM
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Whereas I think there was an admirable processing of vaccinations early in his administration, part of that is due to the Trump Administration's rapid roll out of vaccines and already-established plans to administer them.
The ramp-up of daily doses (peaking at approximately 3 million doses a day) simply satisfied those of us who were ready, willing and able to get vaccinated. No...or minimal...convincing was necessary.
But now we are crawling in our daily vaccine count, and I have read that people who aren't vaccinated at this point just don't want to be vaccinated.
Looking at the make-up of the unvaccinated, a much higher population of black and Hispanic are unvaccinated than white Americans. These populations SHOULD be the more receptive to the Democrat administration's efforts to encourage vaccination. What has Biden done? Why is he unable to bridge that gap?
Then of course there's the...I dunno...right-winger...conspiracy theorist...Trump-supporter...however you want to slice them...what has been done? I've heard a lot of insulting them and demeaning them. And don't get me wrong, that ALWAYS works. But...maybe...maybe try a different tactic? I mean, they are your citizens, Mr. President. Their unwillingness to get vaccinated, according to your administration, puts us all at risk. Maybe reach out? Maybe communicate instead of insult?
Anyway, that's my hypothesis. We have done pretty well in vaccination (almost 70% of adults have at least started the process of vaccination) but the media would have us believe that we have failed miserably. If that is the case, I would point the finger first at the current administration as being unable to connect with its own key constituents and being unwilling to connect with Americans who disagree with them politically.
I welcome counterarguments! What do you think?
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Re: Hypothesis: The lower vaccine rate is Biden Admin's fault
Jul 26, 2021, 3:31 PM
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some folks may not want the gubmint to know they are still alive, expired visa, bill collectors, old warrants lol
i just need someone to be liable for possible injury
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I prefer the word "responsibility" to "fault".
Jul 26, 2021, 3:34 PM
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"Responsibility" looks forward; "fault" looks back, which doesn't help much.
The vaccination rate and their actions toward it are the Biden administration's responsibility. If their focus is on casting blame, then they are looking in the wrong direction; they need to look forward, not back.
It's one thing for us to argue on the internet about fault. It's pointless, but it's the internet, so who cares if it's pointless. Whose "fault" something is should not be a point of discussion for those who are actually leading the pandemic response. Because that's wasting valuable resources.
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I certainly would have no objection to Biden saying that
Jul 26, 2021, 3:46 PM
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the vaccine rates aren't where his administration wants them to be, and its his responsibility to address that, rather than saying that the missed targets are his "fault".
Truly, like you said...this is just P&R banter so "who's to blame" was my shorthand.
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Re: Hypothesis: The lower vaccine rate is Biden Admin's fault
Jul 26, 2021, 3:35 PM
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The lower vaccine rate
Lower than what?
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It's objectively fallen short of the administration's
Jul 26, 2021, 3:37 PM
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own stated goals.
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Re: It's objectively fallen short of the administration's
Jul 26, 2021, 3:47 PM
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I'd venture that their goals were too high. For one thing, why would anyone who's had Covid bother getting vaxxed for it? For another, isn't it to be expected that there would be significant hesitancy over a vax that still isn't FDA approved?
Not an anti-vaxxer... had the J&J, but I don't really blame those who are skeptical or don't want it because they have the antibodies.
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Yeah - weighing the Pros-and-Cons, getting the vaccine
Jul 26, 2021, 3:54 PM
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seemed to make sense (I'm a Pfizer man). But I can see why someone might hesitate. (But these non-vaxxed folks should still be wearing masks.)
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Re: Yeah - weighing the Pros-and-Cons, getting the vaccine
Jul 26, 2021, 6:03 PM
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You could argue that I guess unless the nonvaxed have had covid. In that case there’s no need for the mask and no need for the vaccine.
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Re: Yeah - weighing the Pros-and-Cons, getting the vaccine
Jul 26, 2021, 6:44 PM
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I had COVID in November. Took the Pfizer’s in April and May.
I got the vaccines because 1) at the time and still - I don’t think there is any real idea how long the average immunity lasts from previous infection. 2) I tend to tolerate pretty much all medicines and other vaccines well. And in Pfizer’s case didn’t have any side effects 3) Figured why the #### not? 4) I heard Pfizer vaccine makes your junk grow…and it does.
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Re: Yeah - weighing the Pros-and-Cons, getting the vaccine
Jul 26, 2021, 6:52 PM
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Lol say what??
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Lower than higher numbers.
Jul 26, 2021, 3:48 PM
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I dunno...lower than optimal. Lower than Biden's stated goal. Lower than what it should be. There's a lot of hand-wringing about people not getting vaccinated, so it's lower than some people think it should reasonably be.
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taking the vaccine is failing miserably.***
Jul 26, 2021, 4:44 PM
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I really don't think you have statistics on your side.
Jul 26, 2021, 4:58 PM
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Regardless, I don't really mean to debate the effectiveness or need for the covid vaccine...if the media and the politicians say that lack of vaccination is an problem, then who is most at fault for not having higher rates? So far I think my hypothesis stands, and as I pointed out in the "Mandate" thread, the young are passing on the vaccine as well...another Biden demographic that he is unable or unwilling to reach out to effectively.
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Bump - We are in agreement on this? I'm a bit surprised.
Jul 27, 2021, 9:21 AM
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I expected some more push-back on this position.
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