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Idiot leftist


Dec 19, 2021, 10:38 PM

Good gosh. A member votes with the majority (51 others) and it’s an end of democracy????

And this a-hole comments on wasting time when the democrats literally hijacked more than half of Trumps term with nonsense.

The sheep must be more stupid than I thought.

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1472636682469998593

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Literally never heard of this guy. Clicked the Tweet to


Dec 19, 2021, 11:58 PM

find that he has over a million followers on Twitter and his own show...named after him on MSNBC. I was all ready to provide the "Why do we care what a random guy on Twitter thinks" but this guy apparently has clout? Or am I misreading it?

Anyway, I am curious how he would justify the thought that Manchin is killing "the future of American democracy." Many would argue that representatives that do not walk in lock-step with their party are very healthy for American democracy, whether it's Joe Manchin or Liz Cheney.

I don't really follow this stuff closely in the moment. I read some of the responses and I'm just having a hard time seeing the justification for the Democrats feeling "betrayed". Manchin IS Democrat. So, that doesn't mean he's in lock step with the broader party on everything, but I would imagine it would mean that he's available to talk and will work with fellow Dems so that they understand his concerns or what would make him feel better. Maybe not. I don't know.

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Re: Literally never heard of this guy. Clicked the Tweet to


Dec 20, 2021, 6:56 AM

Because if Biden fails, Trump likely wins.

Don't you just love this two-party, zero-sum system we've built here?

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Re: Literally never heard of this guy. Clicked the Tweet to


Dec 20, 2021, 7:25 AM

The system we have sucks. I remember you talking about ranked voting. I think I really like that idea.

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Re: Literally never heard of this guy. Clicked the Tweet to


Dec 20, 2021, 7:31 AM

It's the way out because it breaks the stranglehold our two-party system has going, which arbitrarily forces us onto Blue Team or Red Team.

When both of them are terrible - and both are now awful - that's a problem. We're choosing between hemlock and cyanide now, every election.

Put four folks up on the stage, though, all trying to sell themselves as opposed to just obliterating everybody else, and elections get about picking the candidate you like most as opposed to worrying about the one you fear most.

They have to talk issues instead of slinging mud, and that in turn makes us talk issues. And the dirty mudslingers tend to fail, in this format.

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Re: Literally never heard of this guy. Clicked the Tweet to


Dec 20, 2021, 7:38 AM

I like it. I really like it.

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If those are our only choices.....


Dec 20, 2021, 8:34 AM [ in reply to Re: Literally never heard of this guy. Clicked the Tweet to ]

We've already lost.

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Oh my. Don’t get me wrong, that’s the most reasonable


Dec 20, 2021, 9:47 AM [ in reply to Re: Literally never heard of this guy. Clicked the Tweet to ]

Explanation for the claim, but wow, what a leap. This guy is assuming that Biden as a candidate will be even moderately appealing in three years, that the BBB plan would have helped him, and that Trump will be the candidate SND destroy American Democracy as a result. Yikes.

I remain optimistic that Trump will not be the candidate in 2024. He will be 78. He will have had three more years to appear less connected and to have his influence diminished. Most importantly, other Republicans will have three more years to understand how to communicate to their voters that they can be what people like about Trump without being what people hate about him.

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Typically when something has bipartisan support/opposition..


Dec 20, 2021, 11:25 AM [ in reply to Re: Literally never heard of this guy. Clicked the Tweet to ]

It's the right choice.

This bill has bipartisan opposition.

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Re: Literally never heard of this guy. Clicked the Tweet to


Dec 20, 2021, 8:38 AM [ in reply to Literally never heard of this guy. Clicked the Tweet to ]

Agree with Swarley - I just don't get how 9/10 democrats say this or that thing is going to bring down our democracy.

They have said it so many times, just like the racism thing, no one (not on the left) believes them or cares.



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I never knew free stuff was so expensive....


Dec 20, 2021, 11:28 AM

"Free" pre-k.
"Free" healthcare.
"Free" paid leave.
"Free" tax credits for kids.
"Free" tax credits for electric vehicles.

Estimated Cost: $2,000,000,000,000.

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Re: Idiot leftist


Dec 20, 2021, 4:51 AM

Democracy is always threatened when socialists don’t get their way.

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Re: Idiot leftist


Dec 20, 2021, 6:17 AM

Democrats are destroying the future of America. Manchin is just slowing them down a bit and they are pissed.

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That time would have been wasted


Dec 20, 2021, 8:22 AM

Regardless

Mute point

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moot too.***


Dec 20, 2021, 8:22 AM



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It’s like a cow’s opinion. It just doesn’t matter.


Dec 20, 2021, 12:13 PM

It’s “moo.”

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If we elect Trump in 2024 we will get $60,000,000,000,000.00


Dec 20, 2021, 8:33 AM

in reparations from China. First he wanted to punish them for selling us crap too cheap. Now he wants them to pay more than we've paid them, ever, for that cheap crap.

Trump didn't get his wall funded with a GOP Congress, and Biden doesn't get his whatever plan funded with a dem Congress. Obama didn't get his single payer healthcare with a dem congress. Obama didn't get a minimum wage increase, with his dem Congress. Bush didn't get his Social Security reforms with a GOP Congress. No one under any Congress has cut spending, since the Line Item Veto.

At some point you'll figure it out.

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Re: Idiot leftist


Dec 20, 2021, 8:36 AM

Jennifer Rubin in Sunday's WAPO. "Manchin deals a devastating blow to Biden and democracy." That's a bit histrionic.

So the Dems have a single digit majority in the House. It's 50/50 in the Senate and yet they decide to push forward a bill outside the usual way through reconciliation. They themselves declare the bill will transform America through a variety of government interventions.

Many say this bill is the most ambitious bill since FDR. One would think to push a bill of such magnitude that the Dems would need to work with the GOP and go through the regular process of passing this bill or elect more Dems. But no. They knew they wouldn't get near as much and they wanted it all.

So now when they come up short with the votes, it's "devastating to democracy."

51 Senators opposed this bill, not one.

I guess the Dem's accounting processes have expanded to voting in Congress.

It would appear we need some remedial math and history lessons in Congress.

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I'm curious why this guy thinks Manchin is killing the


Dec 20, 2021, 10:12 AM

future of American democracy.

But not curious enough to actually spend the time finding out...

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