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All-In [47750]
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Jan 5, 2022, 1:08 PM
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Ms Wilbur (no pigs) says I need a new car (I drive a 2006 Acura TL with 230K miles on it. Runs like it did in 2006).
So I agreed with the stipulation a wanted something sporty like a Z4, Audi TT or A5 convertible, MB Cabriolet, BMW A series hardtop convertible, Porcshe Cayman/Boxter, Aston Martin or Ferrari (not a Lambrogini fan (yeah right)). No Corvette, Chrysler or Pontiac.
Anyhoo, want to start looking for something from '17 - '22.
What do I want for under $50K?
Sirrius answers expected.
Serious answers appreciated...
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VW Rabbit***
Jan 5, 2022, 1:10 PM
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You laugh, but one of my good buds has the GTi version
Jan 5, 2022, 3:14 PM
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two door manual. That thing is a blast to drive.
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Oculus Spirit [85323]
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How much do you drive?
Jan 5, 2022, 1:12 PM
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Why no pickup or SUV. You are American, aren't you?
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All-In [47750]
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I live 6 miles to Clemson and 8 to Senecar.....
Jan 5, 2022, 1:14 PM
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An occasional trip elsewhere. 10K mi per yr would push it.
Oh and we already have a 2018 RAM 1500 with a 5.7L V8 (Yes it has a Hemi)
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If I were you I would look for a 2007 Acura TL.***
Jan 5, 2022, 1:15 PM
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Too many doors,
Jan 5, 2022, 1:17 PM
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but it does have a better engine than the '06.
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Tesla Model 3***
Jan 5, 2022, 1:16 PM
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If I'd held on to my TSLA stock I could have paid cash for
Jan 5, 2022, 1:20 PM
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3 of them....Hate to beotch about a 40% gain but, dammmit...
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Interesting call. I've always liked Jag-you-eyers.
Jan 5, 2022, 1:18 PM
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on the list.
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I love my Jag
Jan 5, 2022, 1:32 PM
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but I also like to drive a car that isnt a loaner. Three engines & 2 turbos in less that 50k miles.
So, my new Bimmer is being built as we speak today. Hope to do performance center delivery next month.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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You've mentioned several times how little problems you had
Jan 5, 2022, 1:48 PM
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with that Jag.
You haven't improved your odds buying a BMW. I hope you are leasing it.
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I've also had a BMW for 7 years - zero problems
Jan 5, 2022, 3:46 PM
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most reliable car I've ever owned.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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I wouldn't expect new models to be like that.
Jan 5, 2022, 4:31 PM
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Their quality has gone to chit.
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It's not so much the quality as it is them trying to
Jan 5, 2022, 4:34 PM
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please two masters. They've always been (after Porsche) the fun to drive German brand, so they've tried to keep performance, but they also now bow at the altar of the German Green Party, so they've had to go far over the bleeding edge line to eke out as much efficiency as they can while trying to still be sporty.
They're not so much low quality as they are flat out fragile now---it's ridiculous when you consider how bulletproof they were in the early aughts.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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con rod bearings, bad turbos, bad pistons
Jan 5, 2022, 4:54 PM
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They have been having a pretty good run of just crap engineering and parts
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Lot o points [155905]
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Not familiar with unusual piston or turbo issues.
Jan 5, 2022, 5:12 PM
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Con rod bearings on 1.5 years of the e46 M3’s and V10 M5/6’s, but those are old school high revving almost-race engines. To me it’s a miracle they make it to 75-100k before needing new bearings….I’d consider those “price you pay” maintenance items.
I know the turbo 6’s ate fuel pumps for a while, but that’s the whole bleeding edge thing I was talking about, needing insane high pressures to atomize the fuel enough to get a tiny bit more efficiently.
On the quality front, valve stem seals and valley gaskets have been horrible for a while, and BMW water pumps have been plastic-internal junk for a couple decades now.
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The "hot vee" turbos on the V8's
Jan 5, 2022, 5:18 PM
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I know nothing of them, but have seen Hoovie NOT buy a hooptie 1/M series because it was toasted.
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I can't figure out how Hoovie got started or has a show.
Jan 5, 2022, 5:29 PM
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The guy has to have a trust fund or something....he has the worst car buying process I've ever seen (hops in and if it gets him 2 miles down the road and back he says "seems good to me") and he turns it over to the weird mechanic guy to do everything from transmission repairs to emptying the ashtray.
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It's a matter of priorities.
Jan 5, 2022, 1:55 PM
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If reliability is in your top 3 requirements, Jaguar's probably not the brand for you. In fact it's probably best to avoid European cars in general.
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i expected electrical problems
Jan 5, 2022, 3:47 PM
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not blown borg warner turbos and engines losing compression
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If only someone had foretold that you would have a close
Jan 5, 2022, 2:49 PM
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personal relationship with your service advisor when you originally were shopping for it. Oh wait, I did.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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EVeryone did. And he said for years he had no issues with it
Jan 5, 2022, 2:59 PM
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3 engines? Thats kind of a big "issue".
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all happened right around 45k miles***
Jan 5, 2022, 3:45 PM
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If I were you, I would get something sporty like a Z4, Audi
Jan 5, 2022, 1:19 PM
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TT or A5 convertible, MB Cabriolet, BMW A series hardtop convertible, Porcshe Cayman/Boxter, Aston Martin or Ferrari
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You da man..***
Jan 5, 2022, 1:20 PM
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Boxster or Audi wood be my choice***
Jan 5, 2022, 1:20 PM
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bmw 4 series convertible***
Jan 5, 2022, 1:35 PM
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A Miata would be nice***
Jan 5, 2022, 1:37 PM
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FWIW. APM is looking hard at Toyota GR86/Subaru BRZ.
Jan 5, 2022, 2:26 PM
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If he could only find one on a lot.
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BTW, the Porsche you mention gets good reviews, but APM
Jan 5, 2022, 2:58 PM
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could not in good conscience buy a 4-cylinder Porsche. I don't care how many hp it cranks out.
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How to tell a good used one?
Jan 5, 2022, 3:11 PM
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"NEVER BEEN VAPED IN"
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and Red Bull stains...***
Jan 5, 2022, 3:22 PM
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Mazda3s are very nice and dependable***
Jan 5, 2022, 2:45 PM
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True story: APM drove a 1996 Protege for 19 years.
Jan 5, 2022, 2:59 PM
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Bad boy had a stick and it was great fun to drive. Had NO problems with it engine or drivetrain-wise. Finally got rid of it when the interior and hoses on it began to dry rot. I kid you not.
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Lot o points [155905]
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Why do these always come up when I'm not online?
Jan 5, 2022, 2:49 PM
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I'd jump on a thread like this like stink on sheet and it's 30 replies deep by the time I see it. Hang tight, I got you.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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Why do you do this to yourself?
Jan 5, 2022, 3:00 PM
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Maybe just tell him what NOT to get, knowing that's exactly what he will go out and buy.
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Lot o points [155905]
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that's a fair point. I could find a 2017 Ferrari California
Jan 5, 2022, 3:05 PM
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that a widower is selling for $50k because she just wants it gone, and Wilbur is going to be posting pics a week later of his new PT Cruiser Convertible.
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Lot o points [155905]
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Ok, here's the current ne plus ultra for sport coupe
Jan 5, 2022, 3:04 PM
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bang for your buck in that price range:
https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/2127827
Another good BMW option (should also be able to find an M4 in this range)
https://tinyurl.com/4n3rrm3y
Sweet Merc big coupe.....smaller E and C class coupes are ample in your range
https://tinyurl.com/2ksjku3j
Murcielago's Jag answer isn't a bad one, but I just had a buddy get his wife a newer F Type R with super low miles and he's already dropped almost $10k on repairs. It's just hard to trust Tata-owned cars at this point.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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The only time a jag was ever remotely reliable was the
Jan 5, 2022, 3:10 PM
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year or two after Ford bought them.
How chitty is your car when Ford engineering improves your quality??
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European cars built for maximum performance
Jan 5, 2022, 3:24 PM
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American cars built for maximum neglect.
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It's funny that the main parts that have gone bad in
Jan 5, 2022, 3:27 PM
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my son's LR3 are Ford ones. Luckily they're cheap, and known entities for failure on the message boards.
He called me before Christmas from his high school parking lot and said that every single light on the dash had come on---lots of unrelated systems so clearly electrical.
I told him to look in the back cubby where I keep small parts, and directed him on how to swap out the $13 Ford brake pedal switch in 5 minutes with the spare I keep back there. Voila, problem solved.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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Well, to Ford's credit, they were working through what they
Jan 5, 2022, 5:06 PM
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had. The Christmas tree of lights on the dash isn't a LR thing only, that's for sure. If the gas cap goes bad on my 4runner (and it does, about every 20K miles or so), it looks like a house fire up there. It turns off traction control, stability control, hill descent, lockers, and lights all the associated dash lights--even the ABS light. For a bad gas cap.
The (first year) tacked on safety features on my 2018 Tundra got out of alignment about 2 days into owning it and I was afraid to drive the thing. It turned on literally every dash light (even the ones that were supposed to stay on). That's another thing...why does Toyota have a dash light on all the time for something that's working? Makes zero sense. I understand they have since fixed that safety abortion mess to be a bit more "driver friendly."
Wait...what was I answering?
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If you go the Porsche route
Jan 5, 2022, 4:33 PM
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get the Boxster. But I love a convertible.
I had a 2007 Cayman and it was a beautiful and fast car. Still missed the rag top though.
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If you want to be sick, look up the value of that Cayman now
Jan 5, 2022, 4:35 PM
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man oh man they have gone up lately.
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I don't want to.
Jan 5, 2022, 4:51 PM
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it was an S coupe, manual trans, gray with black interior, I do not think I have ever owned a more beautiful looking car - the curves were seductive.
And it had 34k on it when I sold it.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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You were somewhere from -5K miles to +15K miles of
Jan 5, 2022, 5:11 PM
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needing to reengineer the IMS bearing assembly (about a $4-$6K job), which by itself is expensive enough, and if left untreated, can make the engine commit hari-kari.
Don't be too hard on yourself.
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That was fixed by 2007***
Jan 5, 2022, 5:46 PM
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