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Oculus Spirit [93604]
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I listed to the Roar just before lunch. Some guy was...
Jul 21, 2022, 1:02 PM
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talking about playoff expansion to 12 teams. He had a few good points about expansion one being, all six conferences would get automatic qualifiers. I like that. Playing your way in. I didn't catch how the other six would be determined but I hate polls being involved.
I don't like the 12 team playoff concept because the natural way to maximize the revenue will give one team a bye just before the final game. 6 games first round, three games second round and one game third round with the championship yields 11 games, if math serves me.
Or, With four teams getting a bye, first round 4 games, second round 4 games, 3rd round 2 games and final. That too yields 11. Either way the playoff season must be extended but allowing for conference championships to be a playoff game technically the playoff system would involve the 12 with six playing opponents in the CCGs meaning 18 would be playing for their lives.
Some of my dislikes are the polls and/or the committee which always seems to regard the polls, selecting the 'at large,' teams. I've always hated the polls. I know they are entertaining but that's all they are for the first two months of the season. Neither do I like an extended playoff season. This mutt was talking about playing deep into Jan. That's too much for the 99.4% of the guys playing for the fun of it and playing for an education, imo.
The extra games means the team with the most quality depth is going to last the longest. There's be no Cinderellas in that situation.
Merge the BCS into four conferences and let the regular season determine the four playoff teams. No polls and the playoff starts during the regular season. Four teams emerge as playoff bound and the other teams play traditional bowl games. Polls and opinions are eliminated and the playoff season is cut short enough to let the kids enjoy their time off.
I know the B1G and SEC want two or three teams in the playoff for the money but they'll get their payday on TV contracts for those games which determine the conference champs.
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12 is a SEC power grab
Jul 21, 2022, 1:04 PM
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All 6 conference champions can get in with an 8 team playoff.
Math is hard.
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Oculus Spirit [93604]
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Re: 12 is a SEC power grab
Jul 21, 2022, 1:11 PM
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Yeah but both SEC and B1G are looking for 2+ seeds each. Yes, it's a power grab and well conceived. ND would be a most likely addition to the Six conference champs and one open seed would be sufficient.
The SEC and B1G want to turn this into a pro season. The longer it last the bigger the TV contract. I hate that. The only kids who benefit are those bound for the pros. I hate it!
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Re: I listed to the Roar just before lunch. Some guy was...
Jul 21, 2022, 1:11 PM
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Sankey has made it very clear. Folks had their chance at a 12 team playoff. They rejected it. He is saying the SEC will never approve a playoff with ANY automatic qualifiers.
As of Today, the SEC and B1G think they are in a position where if there were a 12 team playoff with no automatic qualifiers (just have a committee pick the 12 best teams) that at least 10 of those teams would come from the two conferences.
I have no idea how it is all gonna shake out in the next few years. Just saying that if conferences in 2 years resemble anything close to what they are today, a 12 team playoff with 6 automatic bids is anything but a sure thing.
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Re: I listed to the Roar just before lunch. Some guy was...
Jul 21, 2022, 1:16 PM
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I think that is part of Sankey's negotiating ploy. He wants no automatic qualifiers, but will agree to 6. There is no way he will accept an 8 team playoff.
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Oculus Spirit [93604]
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I just read ESPiN's report on Sankey's speech.
Jul 21, 2022, 1:32 PM
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Just earn your way in. There’s something that’s healthy competitively about that and creates expectations and support around programs, he said.'
As if winning a conference championship is a walk in the park in any conference. You've seen the SEC's regular season schedule. They play as many Birmingham Tech type schools as anyone and both division of the SEC have only one good team. UGA is an upstart. So far they've proven they can win one NC game.
I wouldn't want to squeeze teams out even if Clemson moves to the B1G or SEC. I do not want an extended playoff season. I'd enjoy it but not at the expense of the youth trying to have fun while they become educated. That doesn't seem to matter anymore.
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Oculus Spirit [93604]
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I hope there is enough opposition to kill that beast.
Jul 21, 2022, 1:50 PM
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If they want a playoff between the B1G and SEC let them have one. I'd consider it other than an NCAA playoff though I haven't kept up enough to quite grasp how they'd conceive such a grandiose idea.
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Bret...you are so right! Skanky is one greedy basturd!
Jul 21, 2022, 10:27 PM
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I said over a year ago, when this 12 team plan came out, that it was just a ploy to get five or six SEC teams in most years. I'm sure those in the SEC love Skanky, but he's worse for college football than Mark Emmert! And that's saying a lot!
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Re: I listed to the Roar just before lunch. Some guy was...
Jul 21, 2022, 1:18 PM
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What did you list them for? Have you sold them yet?
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Oculus Spirit [93604]
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Spelling NAZI?
Jul 21, 2022, 1:33 PM
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Dood, I didn't even notice that. How'd I do in the body of the OP?
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Sankey said he would be very unlikely to
Jul 21, 2022, 1:23 PM
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Revisit automatic qualifiers again. They were willing to do that before, but ACC Phollips voted expansion down.
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Oculus Spirit [93604]
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One vote stopped the process?***
Jul 21, 2022, 1:34 PM
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Re: One vote stopped the process?***
Jul 21, 2022, 3:47 PM
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Pac 12 voted it down as well.
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and both conferences gonna get screwed bc of it ..
Jul 21, 2022, 3:53 PM
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what morons!
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BIG, ACC, and Pac voted it down. They
Jul 21, 2022, 7:37 PM
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Had the alliance remember. They didn't need a contract because they "looked into each other's eyes and trusted"
Complete idiots.
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I have no problem with four, but...
Jul 21, 2022, 1:42 PM
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if the decision is made to expand, I still think the right number is eight.
The five P5 conference champions receive automatic bids and the CFP committee then selects three at-large teams which takes into consideration Notre Dame and potentially a deserving Group of 5 team. No more than two teams from any one conference can be selected.
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Re: I listed to the Roar just before lunch. Some guy was...
Jul 21, 2022, 1:47 PM
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The SEC will determine the other 6 teams.
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By the time a new CFP would roll around (2026?),
Jul 21, 2022, 3:14 PM
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there won't be 5 major conferences, there will likely only be 4, provided the East coast and West coast programs are able to congeal around some type of framework to maintain those.
A conference champion (via game or regular season title) from each should definitely be an automatic into a field as large as 12, and I could see the SEC and B1G with their size and makeup being guaranteed a 2nd each, so six up front, with the last six chosen CFP committee style.
I don't see ESPN or whatever CFP media partner being in a big rush to push something through that wouldn't include the most worthy programs nationwide in whatever format works best. That's big, big money annually for a long-term commitment. Nationwide buy-in on any expanded new format will be critical.
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Oculus Spirit [93604]
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Four conferences is perfect to furnish 4 playoff teams.
Jul 21, 2022, 9:13 PM
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Each conference has the early round during the regular season with the deciding games played at the home of the team voted on by conference schools as worthy.
Four automatic qualifiers and the conferences make money by TV contracts for the preplayoff games. Everybody gets paid and the teams not included in the final four can bowl like it's 1999.
I would love to see that setup. No extended seasons, less risk of harm to the players. The bowls could playoff the losers bracket of the CCGs. No ESPiN polls involved and no at large bids to pass out to the B1G or SEC. No two teams from the same conference snatching all the playoff money.
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Dream on! That ain't happening!***
Jul 21, 2022, 10:31 PM
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