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I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 3:56 AM
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It keeps slipping my mind that yall were spebeing all of those days in the weight room, in the indoor facility, in the west end zone for 11 hours a day. How dare this team not play better! How dare they forget what they owe this Clemson fan base!
How dare them not to live up to the expectations that you have set for them, how dare they don't do enough for you to talk trash to your coot friends.
Seriously blows my mind. How quick you all forget how far we have come. This fan base has gotten spoiled. I don't know where the entitlement comes of thinking that we are suppose to be this huge powerhouse who constantly kills everyone. Absolutely it was Troy, and the talent is significantly better. But those kids don't just show up on the first day of school and start practicing football and say "let's go get smashed by a bunch of D1 schools". They practice all summer, and every one of those kids has the same dream as every other college football player, the NFL.
It's pathetic. The crazy thing is, I think some of you think you could do a better job! Clemson recruits well and we have amazing coaches.
If you think every Saturday those 18-22 year old kids are going to go out there and be at the top of their game every single week, and not lose some plays and some matchups, then you people know less about sports than I originally thought.
At least just understand the process, and know that football to these kids is a full time job, where as to you it's getting drunk and showing up to coach from the stands.
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 4:57 AM
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First off you need to do some homework.
It's not our expectations,all though last year's run did spoil some fans thinking we are the # 2 team in the land.Heck,even most of the college football magazines talk about Clemson's "unfinished business".What are we supposed to expect?
No,the expectations come from these so called football experts who put us at # 2 even though we clearly are not the # 2 team in the country after week 2.And unfortunately,in today's football world it's not how far you have come,but how far can you go.
You are correct that we are not this huge power house,but a cousin who is a life long supporter and I talked yesterday about the one thing that Clemson lacks.It's called a "Killer Instinct".They just can't seem to put people away early enough so that you( and us fans) don't have to worry about a 'Hail Mary" pass,or an own side kick giving the opponent a chance to come back and get a last second win.And that could have happened in both of our 2 games this year.I don't care how good you are,or think you are,but an 0-2 start does nothing but give you faint hope for the Meinkie Car Crap Bowl,or the Papa John Toilet Bowl.
(And this "Killer Instinct" is something that has been lacking for some time according to him,and other people I know who follow Clemson have discussed in the past.So this is not new).
Now,in regards to you thinking that some of us could do a better job"coaching"it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that after 2 games this team is lethargic,and not operating on all cylinders.Maybe the team,and even some of the coaching are buying into all of this hype.If so whose fault is that? Certainly not the fan base.
The thing is they need to get their act together.Sure they came out of the gates 2-0,and some of the other top 25 teams have had slip up's but Clemson can't afford a slip up.
Oh,and just so we know that we are all on the same page here,all of the teams in the College Football Playoff system work hard,and practice all summer,or they wouldn't be here.
The difference is only one team can rule the roost,and right now it's Alabama.
And as Dabo said to be the best,you got to be the best.
And you don't do that by playing uninspiring,and at times dumb football against two teams you were favored to best by double digit.
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 7:54 AM
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Uhhh, seriously? The whole college football world spent the off season talking about how we have the best QB and receivers in the country. Then, these very guys wind up playing pretty badly against a less than top 20 opponent and you don't expect our intensely interested and invested fan base to discuss it or be concerned? What planet are you from?
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 8:06 AM
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Hahaha discuss it? You mean ##### about it.
My only thing is, if you can't offer a solution to the problem, and me and you both know realistically you cant, then why go on and on about it?
Another thing, these same preseason writers who are slammed every year for hating on Clemson and not giving Clemson respect, all of a sudden you pay them attention? They are constantly called stupid by Clemson fans, saying there is a Clemson bias. But the one time they say "Clemson is the most talented and best offense", now you give them credit and say they are right?
Wake up
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 7:57 AM
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Coot please , don't let the headlines overrun you .
We have to earn it each week , and despite some less than stellar results , we are 2-0 and HAVE earned it thus far .
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In pay to iptay , more than just a beer drinker
Sep 11, 2016, 9:02 AM
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For 1.
For 2. Check this what Nick saban said after yesterday's win
“I don’t know I’ve ever been this disappointed after winning a game, maybe ever,” he told reporters after the game.
Well, that showed on the field.
In the closing minute of the game, Saban was caught yelling at offensive coordinator Lane Kiffin, whose offense fumbled away the ball late and allowed Western Kentucky to score.
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 5:00 AM
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Oh,and let me add one thing.Every major college team is full of 18-22 year old players
so please don't use that as an excuse for not preforming.
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 5:30 AM
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All I know is Clemson is 2-0. It might not be how you wanted it to look, but I guarantee you the ones who are actually involved with the program are happy about that. Every goal that these young men and coaches work their ### off for is still attainable.
I don't have to make excuses, or justify the way the team played. And they don't have to either. If you are dissapointed and you think it should be better, go back to school. Get an education degree. Find you a coaching job. Until you have put in the work and time to make any kind of difference, who are you to criticize them? Just sit on your couch or in the stands and watch.
And if you are so in love with Bama and how they are the best, pull for Bama. If that's your standard for how you think it should be, go pull for them
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the great thing is when Dabo gets canned, DRad has his pick
Sep 11, 2016, 8:11 AM
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of experts on here to replace the entire staff.
I've been in his office; he has a file cabinet specifically dedicated to TigerNet coaching resumes.
Decision will be tough because of so many high-quality candidates, but he figures, how can he possibly make a poor choice? It's a scenario he looks forward to.
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Re: the great thing is when Dabo gets canned, DRad has his pick
Sep 11, 2016, 8:44 AM
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I knew I liked DRad for a reason. Might be the most genius thing I've ever heard.
If he runs out of TigerNet coaches, I have a whole list of Facebook and couch coaches he can consult
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 8:59 AM
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Not mad we won. glad we won. Frustrated in how we won though.
Just like Nick saban was pissed they gave up a late score because of dumb offensive play calling .
When play calling (and coaching) is good, we call it good. When it is bad, we call it bad.
When players make a spectacular play, we call it good. When they miss a tackle and underperform, we call it bad
So many of you scared to call a spade a spade.
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Amen***
Sep 11, 2016, 8:49 AM
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And this ladies and gentleman is what we call a strawman
Sep 11, 2016, 9:22 AM
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argument.
There is so much ignorance in your post! Fans can be critical.
Yes, I actually do support this team through hard work. Do you know how many tens of thousands of dollars that I have given Clemson through the years? A lot. Multiply that by the hundreds of thousands of people that are just like me, you know the fans you are talking about now, and see what you have as a program.
Fans, both the critical ones and non critical ones, come with the game. If you have a problem with that, you should do something about that. If you hear me in person, try and shut me up, if you do not like seeing it here, I suggest you stay away from this website. If a coach or player does not like it, then they are in the wrong business, I suggest they play intramural.
You become a member of this board less than a year ago, you do not donate to this board, and probably do not donate to Clemson. I suggest we need less fans like you, and more of the critical fans that actually do give back to the university and team.
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Re: And this ladies and gentleman is what we call a strawman
Sep 11, 2016, 9:43 AM
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Congratulations on sending in your money. I'm sure if you hadn't have donated those ten's of thousands, the whole football program would have shut down and they would have blamed it on you not sending in your money.
All I'm saying is its pointless. You look like a ####### in the stands trying to coach and make corrections. If you want to help, do what the other coaches have done and go to school to be a teacher and coach, work your way up to the top, then we can sit around and talk about how bad you suck.
If it helps you sleep at night, keep being critical. Keep thinking you are a major part of the success of this program. I promise you no one will notice if you stop sending your money.
Dabo gave a million last week, so that should make up for the loss of money from you and the other cry babies like you who should have went in to coaching many years ago
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Ok, So NFLU, a guy that has been on tnet for less than a
Sep 11, 2016, 9:52 AM
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year, a leftover bandwagon fan from last year that does not donate and has a 65% pulse, is telling all the IPTAY supporters, and people that donate to Clemson, to stop donating. He believes that Clemson will not notice that even.
I guess that is why he does not give money to support anything.
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Re: Ok, So NFLU, a guy that has been on tnet for less than a
Sep 11, 2016, 9:56 AM
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My mistake again, wasn't aware you represented all of IPTAY
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I do not, but are you just making me stop donating
Sep 11, 2016, 9:58 AM
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because my entire section of people, also donors, were critical as well. So, NFLU, what is your delineator for those donors that should stop giving?
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Re: I do not, but are you just making me stop donating
Sep 11, 2016, 10:05 AM
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Stop trying to speak for everyone. Who cares about your whole section. You are speaking for you on a message board.
You, stop giving your money, see how many beats are missed. Hahaha
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Sep 11, 2016, 10:09 AM
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Re: How about this
Sep 11, 2016, 10:11 AM
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LOVE TO
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Re: And this ladies and gentleman is what we call a strawman
Sep 11, 2016, 9:54 AM
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If 200,000 people don't donate that 10,000$ then what?
As odd as it may sound, a school is only as superb as its bank account.
Let me tell ya, Clemson folks have some deep pockets. The millennials call it old money
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 9:34 AM
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If people stop complaining and discussing the games then what the hell is this board for! This is why we are here! People should feel free to complain and express there opinions just like u just did! Our offensive play callin sux! There! I just said it and I feel better! It's like therapy!
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He is scared you are going to hurt feelings
Sep 11, 2016, 9:35 AM
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I have a feeling that Dabo and Clemson players do not get their feelings hurt as easily as OP does.
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Re: He is scared you are going to hurt feelings
Sep 11, 2016, 9:44 AM
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You have a feeling? As much money, time and hard work you have put in to this program, you should know for a fact
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You are not a very bright guy are you***
Sep 11, 2016, 9:54 AM
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Playing Down
Sep 11, 2016, 9:47 AM
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We have always had trouble playing down to a lessor team .,
It happens every year , There was no fire in the team , you could see it
in Deshaun's eyes as well .
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 9:46 AM
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Talk about games in the future. Talk about match ups coming up.
You think the play calling sucked. How do you know Troy's defensive call wasn't just that good? Or maybe somebody didn't do their assignment for that particular play? You have no idea. You seen that the play didn't work, so you immediately say the play calling sucked, without having any knowledge of what the play call is or what everybody's job on the play is
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 9:52 AM
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Don't review the game you JUST played though huh. And we know these things because it's common football sense. We know if you take away one thing, something else is going to open up, especially with as much talent as we have.
I'd prefer to be a champion. Hence I will act like a champion. (See nick saban post above^)
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NFLU is obviously part of the generation that received
Sep 11, 2016, 9:56 AM
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participation trophies.
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Re: NFLU is obviously part of the generation that received
Sep 11, 2016, 9:58 AM
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Nah, I'm part of the realistic crowd that understands that people like you who think they are a coach behind a keyboard are the ones who get embarrassed in real life when you try to talk anything about football.
Stay in your lane, know your role. Keep writing those checks and yelling "Go Tigers"
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Re: NFLU is obviously part of the generation that received
Sep 11, 2016, 10:06 AM
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Have you ever played a down of football? I played from the time I was 5 until I was 20, that means I played 2 years of football after high school even. Guess what, I think I know what I am talking about. It does not take a genius to watch the LOS and see that there is no push. It does not take a coach to see that a QB is not going through reads. It does not take a coach to realize that formations, and plays from those formations are predictable.
Maybe YOU need school, or special training to figure that out as you said in a previous post, but I have 15 years of actually playing the game to know that.
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Re: NFLU is obviously part of the generation that received
Sep 11, 2016, 10:10 AM
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Nope, just think you should have kept playing, coaching, or been good at one of them so you could correct all of this and make it go away
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Re: NFLU is obviously part of the generation that received
Sep 11, 2016, 10:18 AM
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Such an easy fix right, lol? What idiot.
Basically your argument="If you wanted to help the country you should of became a politician.. since you didn't, don't complain"
Anywho, thoughts on saban or for real taking it off the air
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Re: NFLU is obviously part of the generation that received
Sep 11, 2016, 10:20 AM
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Exactly! Everybody has the solution, but nobody can do what it takes to make the solution happen!
Don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk
"If you want to help the country, be a politician. Since you didn't, don't complain."
That's the smartest thing you have said on this entire thread
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Well, hell. That means that no one but politicians can vote
Sep 11, 2016, 10:23 AM
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To vote, you must have an opinion, but if your opinion only is valid if you are a politician, then only politicians can vote.
Am I doing this right?
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Re: Well, hell. That means that no one but politicians can vote
Sep 11, 2016, 10:35 AM
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I guess you can say that the real coaching staff is like the electoral college hahaha
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Re: Well, hell. That means that no one but politicians can vote
Sep 11, 2016, 10:39 AM
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Way to wiggle out of your own dumb logic, that you claimed was the smartest thing I said.. Lol
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Re: NFLU is obviously part of the generation that received
Sep 11, 2016, 10:25 AM
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Actually that's the dumbest thing I've said on this thread lol and I was basically paraphrasing you.
You can't just go "become" a coach.
Wow, haven't had this kind of argument since I was like 16.
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So I guess that means that
Sep 11, 2016, 10:21 AM
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every person that writes or reports about football is wrong and should not give commentary on the play. No one should EVER criticize any team. Because, if they are writing or reporting, they are obviously not playing or coaching.
I am trying to understand your logic, but that is my fault for trying to make sense of ann irrational person.
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:01 AM
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I played football for Danny Ford at Clemson and I'm not a coach but understand basic football a hell of a lot more than u! The play callin has been vanilla! But our biggest problem is no offensive tempo! We need to get in a serious hurry again!
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:03 AM
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An anonymous name on a message board claims to be a former football player who knows everything, who would have ever thought it? Hahaha
You should have no problem getting on staff and making it more chocolate then. Lots of former players on staff now
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
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An anonymous name on a message board claims to be a former football player who knows everything, who would have ever thought it? Hahaha
You should have no problem getting on staff and making it more chocolate then. Lots of former players on staff now
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:18 AM
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U are what I call an argumentative #######! U say I'm anonymous! Did u ever run down the hill u pathetic putz! I guess that makes me anonymous around here! U need to quit trolling people u don't know! Get a life!
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:21 AM
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Sure did, once against NC State and once again Furman in 2012. Was on the sideline for every game as a part of my post grad internship to become a certified strength and conditioning coach. Four year baseball letterman, certified CSCs. Anything else?
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:27 AM
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An anonymous name on a message board claims to be a former four year baseball letterman who knows everything, who would have ever thought it? Hahaha
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:34 AM
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Absolutely, following the crowd, gotta throw out those message board credentials!
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 9:57 AM
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Also, the weight room isn't prison. Some might actually like it, and would be doing it even if not playing football .
They owe it to us as well as themselves. We want it bad for them. Don't get it misconstrued
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:01 AM
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They owe what to you? Please explain what they owe to you, please. Lickin Tiger isn't making me laugh enough, please explain that
Coach Batson, Coach Greenlee, Coach Hogan and Coach Smo make the weight room a business office where you come to get better. If you think that's not hard work and think they want to be there at 530, that tells me everything I need to know about your athletic past.
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:05 AM
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They owe me a championship, in blood sweat and tears. They owe it to themselves first and foremost .
Also, thoughts on saban , if any?
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:09 AM
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Your second sentence is right, first one is off. Sorry, just can't agree with them owing you anything.
So you think the players owe you something. The players that didn't win a championship, did they fail you? In whatever weird way you think they owe you, do you think they failed you if they didn't win? Like just you, do you think they go in the locker room and say "man, we really let that guy down".
Hellllllllllllll no. They are dissapointed that they let their brothers down and their coaches. They are dissapointed that the guys the went in to battle with every day didn't accomplish a goal that they all set for the team. Nothing to do with you or the money you may or may not give.
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:11 AM
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Again, thoughts?
https://youtu.be/RX-JGDBd4ls
Can you not read or would you rather not address the parts of the argument you lost?
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:18 AM
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I don't put much stock into anything Saban does. I think most of it is a show and him trying to live up to this persona that everyone has developed for him as this "stone Cold winner". I think he has always benefited from the place he is the head coach, and he knows how to put a staff together. I dnot judge other coaches based on what he does
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:24 AM
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You don't put much stock into the way Saban does things? The greatest modern day football coach of this era? You have lost all credentials, sorry buddy.
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Who died and made you boss?
Sep 11, 2016, 10:18 AM
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I agree with you about the attitude and expectations and such but Tnetters need demoralization with sarcasm, humiliation and degradation than honest criticism.
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:21 AM
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"If you think every Saturday those 18-22 year old kids are going to go out there and be at the top of their game every single week, and not lose some plays and some matchups, then you people know less about sports than I originally thought. "
One play ok. Two play.. Got ya. A whole game of blunders? And our kids should not be losing matchups often... See Bama
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Re: I KEEP FORGETTING HOW HARD YOU ALL WORKED THIS OFFSEASON
Sep 11, 2016, 10:49 AM
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By your rational Bama should score on every possession on offense and force a 3 and out on every defensive possession. For more than a decade now they have had the best players by a 4 year average of any of the recruiting service rankings. They have the best coaches. And they constantly flaunt NCAA rules by hiring more coaches than the limit but titling them as advisors and consultants. So the fact that they ever take one step backwards on defense or ever fail to score on offense pretty much undermines your idea of whatnit means to play toa standard. I must have imagined a middling Ole Miss team beating them the last two years too.
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