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The ACC has serious football potential
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The ACC has serious football potential


Jan 29, 2013, 1:41 PM

Hear me out, the 2000's really set the ACC back. F.S.U. was at the end of the Bowden era, Clemson was suffering through the Bowden era, U.N.C. couldn't get their crap together and kept getting caught, Miami went from a premier football program to getting hammered by the NCAA, V. Tech, while consistent, became stale.

Now, look what the ACC has in potential for the 2010's.

F.S.U. - One of the most talented teams in the nation. The program is going to consistently be in the top 10-15 if not top 5.

Clemson - One of the most talented teams in the nation. The program is going to consistently be in the top 10-15 if not top 5.

U.N.C. - Still hasn't turned the corner on the Butch Davis era, but headed back in the right direction.

Louisville - Moving in the right direction with and excellent coach. Will be the flagship football team in Kentucky, and has the money to promote a solid football program.

Miami - Still in limbo, but once the dust settles, they will be back. They have too much going for them in terms of in state talent and history.

V. Tech - The program has become stale. I will be interested to see how the end of the Beamer era shakes out.

Pitt - In a better position than people think. Pennsylvania has a bunch of in state talent. Penn St. will face a precipitous drop off in the near future. Leaving Pitt as the top program in the state.

Syracuse - Has potential to become the best football team in the North East.

If 5 of these 8 programs can have some consistent success, the ACC will be a good football conference in the near future.

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Still think UVA is a sleeping giant. They are in a recruitin


Jan 29, 2013, 1:51 PM

hot bed

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I think they are a little farther away


Jan 29, 2013, 1:53 PM

However, you are correct the "way" for U.V.A. is there. The question is the "will".

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So much talent in virginia and maryland they just need a


Jan 29, 2013, 1:57 PM

coach that can get those recruits to UVA

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Re: The ACC has serious football potential


Jan 29, 2013, 2:06 PM

Clemson, FSU, and Miami have to be the leaders of the pack. Once Miami recovers from the recent sanctions against them there is no reason they should not be a Top 20 team every year. South Florida and Florida in general is absolutely loaded w talent. I believe UNC is on the way up, but am afraid the VT is on the way down. LVille will bring a much needed addition of football power to the ACC, and the w Lville the ACC SHOULD have 4 teams constantly in the top 25 w Clemson, FSU, UM, and Lville. There should also be 1 or maybe 2 other ACC teams like UNC, VT, GT, NCST, or possibly PITT in the top 25 or on the cusp of it..

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I hear that. But, words are cheap.


Jan 29, 2013, 2:17 PM

When will we know if the ACC is stepping up? It starts with recruiting. Look at the current Top 15 in recruiting:
SEC...7
PAC...3
BIG...2
B12...1
Ind...1
ACC...1 (FSU at number 15).

I don't know what the answer is for ACC football to reach its "potential". I don't know what it will take. But, based on recruiting, thus far, it's NOT encouraging. I know we are not supposed to pull for the rest of the conference like SEC fans do. But, I do pull for the others because I THINK I see the whole picture and realize we are in the same boat in this conference. But, the ACC is in a football funk. How do you get out? I think it competence in the Commissioner's Office and leadership in the individual schools. I KNOW competence is lacking in the Commissioner's Office. Unfortunately, I'm afraid leadership is lacking at most of the schools to make the commitment to football.

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think you'll see a good bit of change by NSD, though


Jan 29, 2013, 3:50 PM

Clemson will be in that top 15, or at least in the top 15 in terms of quality. Miami's going to have a very good class, although they won't be able to sign as many guys they'd like to. VT's class is also highly ranked by ESPN. I know that's not 7 teams, but it's a little better than 1.

As you say, however, I don't know what it will take for some of these teams to put a bigger emphasis on football, but something needs to be done about these schools that are just skating by.

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All true, but unfortunately the ACC also lacks leadership.


Jan 29, 2013, 2:23 PM

The real question is...can/will the ACC survive the poor decisions that have been made in order to hold together long enough to realize that potential?

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I'm not a conference guy but...


Jan 29, 2013, 2:28 PM

I do consider myself a realist and I only see three teams on that list that could potentially beat most teams in the SEC on any given Saturday. Those are of course, FSU, CU, and Louisville. VT and Miami, maybe in a couple of years but the rest don't have what it takes to beat good SEC, Big10, Big12, or PAC10 teams. Just my opinion for what it's worth.

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I wouldn't put Louisville at that level yet.


Jan 29, 2013, 2:36 PM

I know they beat Florida. That was one game. Florida would probably beat them 8 out of 10 times. Louisville's best recruiting class over the past 5 years, counting this year thus far, ranked 29th. They need to step it up too.

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The only thing I disagree with is..."Florida would probably


Jan 29, 2013, 2:44 PM

beat them 8 out of 10 times". I don't think their win over UF was a fluke. Louisville beat the heck out of UF. The game wasn't even as close as the score (which wasn't even close). This year's Louisville team would beat UF more often than not, because they matched up well with UF. Their strength was UF's weakness.

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So was it coaching, besting the SEC stargazers, Bridgewater


Jan 29, 2013, 2:55 PM [ in reply to I wouldn't put Louisville at that level yet. ]

slipping by everybody or Florida wasn't interested? Florida, like the most of the SEC, is riding the coattails of a few good teams and getting inflated rankings off of it. Is the SEC currently the superior conference overall? Yes. Are they that much better than all the other conferences? Who knows. Almost the entire last season they were insulated from comparisons by playing each other. Their high early rankings and a few key wins perpetuated it and it carried all season long. Ever since Roy Kramer, former SEC chairman, originated the BCS concept and sold it to the other conferences, the SEC has enjoyed the privileges of center attraction in the money-making scheme as ESPiN's poster boy. That's era is coming to an end. They'll enjoy the fruits of it all for a few more years, but others are about to get into the fray and Clemson is at the head of the line.

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VT should be fine, Miami is improving


Jan 29, 2013, 3:45 PM [ in reply to I'm not a conference guy but... ]

don't know why people think VT is suddenly a program in decline after one bad year. Clemson had a losing season a couple of years ago, and now look where we are. Things ebb and flow, but good programs like VT usually keep it pretty steady.

Also, did nobody see how bad the B10 was last year? The ACC was, at least, no worse than that bunch.

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I've said that all along. There is no reason that


Jan 29, 2013, 2:39 PM

Clemson, FSU, VT and Miami can't be premier programs. There's no reason that GT, NCSU, UNC, UVA, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse and BC can't all be very solid programs. Duke and Wake have uphill battles to be sure but that's fine. Top to bottom the ACC has no reason it cannot be solid.

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Just lacking on the kinetic side of things***


Jan 29, 2013, 2:39 PM



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Hope you're right, but you are making alot of assumptions.***


Jan 29, 2013, 2:58 PM



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It's hard to produce facts about the future.


Jan 29, 2013, 3:02 PM

Wouldn't any prediction require several assumptions

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When did


Jan 29, 2013, 3:19 PM

John Swofford start posting on T-Net!?

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Thank u.***


Jan 29, 2013, 3:25 PM



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So...


Jan 29, 2013, 4:08 PM [ in reply to When did ]

At a minimum you don't think that Clemson, F.S.U. and Miami can have consistently good football programs in the near future? That is 3 teams. You also don't believe that out of Louisville, V.T., U.N.C., G. Tech, Syracuse, and Pitt, 2 of those programs can't consistently be ranked in the top 25. I'm no fan of Swofford, but the ACC has football schools that can produce. They just haven't recently, and since, like South Carolina fans, your memory only stretches back 5 years, it is probably pointless to argue with you.

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not even the whole 2000's, just the mid- 2000's***


Jan 29, 2013, 3:42 PM



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