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110%er [7219]
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PayPal reinstated $2500 penalty...
Oct 27, 2022, 2:00 PM
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Just in case you haven’t canceled your account, you might want to know this. I canceled 2 weeks ago.
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Re: PayPal reinstated $2500 penalty...
Oct 27, 2022, 2:01 PM
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Penalty for what? I rarely use this.
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110%er [7219]
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Re: PayPal reinstated $2500 penalty...
Oct 27, 2022, 2:05 PM
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Anything they don’t like that you post on ANY social media.
Example- post doubts about dead people voting.
$2500 PER occurrence.
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CU Medallion [50461]
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Does your original post not damage
Oct 27, 2022, 2:08 PM
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their reputation? Smart to close your account?
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Re: Does your original post not damage
Oct 27, 2022, 2:17 PM
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No the mental gymnastics he leaped through to come to that conclusion would allow him to be so rational
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Re: PayPal reinstated $2500 penalty...
Oct 27, 2022, 2:17 PM
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You are a dunce if you think they are sitting there monitoring your social media posts.
It's actually impressive that is what you took out of that.
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110%er [7219]
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Re: PayPal reinstated $2500 penalty...
Oct 27, 2022, 2:26 PM
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You think they put that clause in just for fun? It’s wokeness. If you don’t see it, you’re blind. If you chose not to see it, you’re the idiot.
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Re: PayPal reinstated $2500 penalty...
Oct 27, 2022, 2:50 PM
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you must have the reading comprehension of a 6 year old.
It is talking about if you use your PalPal account for transactions supporting hate crimes, violence, etc.
It says absolutely nothing about social media.
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Re: PayPal reinstated $2500 penalty...
Oct 27, 2022, 2:58 PM
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It's really not that hard to imagine a situation where they decide to fine you because.. well, for example, let's say you have a podcast. Subscribers to your podcast use Paypal to pay you for their subscriptions. You say something on an episode of your podcast that Paypal considers intolerant, like for example that "trans women" shouldn't be allowed to participate in competitive women's sports. Paypal hears about that, fines you, and suspends your account.
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Re: PayPal reinstated $2500 penalty...
Oct 27, 2022, 3:09 PM
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Donating to anything that’s not approved by the Regime is considered a hate crime. Plus it just means they haven’t yet shutdown any financial institution associations with that political opposition group. They will fix that.
Having a bank process your web-based donations is not guaranteed by the first amendment. So they just suffocate the opposition with zero tolerance for dissent.
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Re: PayPal reinstated $2500 penalty...
Oct 27, 2022, 3:50 PM
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You also have to be a Seller for the $2500 penalty to possibly apply, as I understand it. It doesn't effect you buying things.
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All-In [36207]
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Ummm Yeah There is This Thing Called a Computer That Will
Oct 27, 2022, 3:37 PM
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Crawl through all posts and flag topics for fining. If you don't know how automated Boolean scrubbing works it makes you the DUNCE
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110%er [6858]
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Closed my account weeks ago. Screw those commie POS***
Oct 27, 2022, 2:06 PM
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Re: PayPal reinstated $2500 penalty...
Oct 27, 2022, 2:13 PM
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I remember a few fools on TNet the first time this happened who wanted to tell us it was an accident and they didn’t really mean it. This clown show will get sued into oblivion the first time it robs a user of actual money for violating obscure terms of use agreement language.
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Elon may not like this. Be careful who you pi$$ off.
Oct 27, 2022, 2:14 PM
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He may buy the company and fire the lot. It’s coming soon to a neighborhood called Twitter.
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Re: Elon may not like this. Be careful who you pi$$ off.
Oct 27, 2022, 2:29 PM
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I cancelled my account two weeks ago.
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Legend [15863]
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Waiting on my free $8 to transfer before
Oct 27, 2022, 2:40 PM
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I cancel.
unsure what the $8 is for but I'm taking it.
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Letterman [261]
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I guess you used PayPal to pay for Clemson tickets
Oct 27, 2022, 2:40 PM
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that must be how this is related to Clemson sports.
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110%er [7219]
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Re: I guess you used PayPal to pay for Clemson tickets
Oct 27, 2022, 9:11 PM
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It’s in the Amphitheater board.
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Legend [19911]
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That language about them being able to fine you $2,500
Oct 27, 2022, 2:40 PM
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has been in their user agreement since 2013 at least. Here's an archived copy of it, Ctrl-F and search for 2,500 and you'll see it:
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc">https://web.archive.org/web/20130814060840/https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full
What actually changed is their list of prohibited activities. It used to say:
"You may not use the PayPal service for activities that.. relate to transactions involving.. items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance, or the financial exploitation of a crime"
and now it says:
"You may not use the PayPal service for activities that.. relate to transactions involving.. the promotion of hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory or the financial exploitation of a crime"
So now they can fine you not just for buying/selling items that are "racially intolerant", but simply for "promoting intolerance" with no clear definition of what that means.
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Legend [19911]
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Not sure what happened to my link, let me try that again
Oct 27, 2022, 2:43 PM
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https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full PayPal User Agreement - PayPal US PayPal User Agreement provides information regarding opening and closing an account, managing funds in multiple currencies, account statement, fees, and more. PayPal User Agreement - PayPal US PayPal User Agreement provides information regarding opening and closing an account, managing funds in multiple currencies, account statement, fees, and more.
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Legend [19911]
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Just take my word for it, the $2,500 thing is nothing new
Oct 27, 2022, 2:47 PM
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What's new is the updated list of what they can fine you for.
Don't get me wrong, though. I'm not happy about it, and if it wouldn't hurt me more than it would hurt them I would've canceled my Paypal account already.
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Re: Just take my word for it, the $2,500 thing is nothing new
Oct 28, 2022, 3:28 AM
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Why did Paypal say it was a mistake a couple of weeks ago and removed it?
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Legend [19911]
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That's the only thing that's actually changed recently
Oct 27, 2022, 3:13 PM
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as far as I can tell. I'm looking at archived copies of their User Agreement that are almost a decade old and they still contain the language about being able to fine you $2,500 and prohibiting "false, inaccurate or misleading information".
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I only use PayPal to buy things. I've never had a dime
Oct 27, 2022, 2:48 PM
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sitting in my account so I'm not concerned. Even if I did have money in there, I also don't post on social media, so unless they are offended by my sports opinions, I'm not concerned.
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Orange Blooded [3286]
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Re: I only use PayPal to buy things. I've never had a dime
Oct 28, 2022, 8:24 AM
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Do they have you Card or bank account number?
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All-TigerNet [13036]
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Yes, but I havent seen anything that suggests
Oct 28, 2022, 4:13 PM
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they can draw money from those.
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How do you have enough brain power to take a breath?***
Oct 27, 2022, 2:54 PM
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Re: How do you have enough brain power to take a breath?***
Oct 27, 2022, 9:23 PM
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Nice retort. No real attempt at pointing out factual errors, just sling mud.
Oh, and by the way, I was smart enough to set my high school record for the SAT and to have the highest MCAT score in my medical school class. So... I’ve got the breathing part down.
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Re: How do you have enough brain power to take a breath?***
Oct 27, 2022, 9:31 PM
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LMAO
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Paypal is, and always has been, a horrible company
Oct 27, 2022, 3:03 PM
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They've screwed over so many folks over the years with their "Hey, we're not a bank" schtick while trying, as much as possible, to put themselves in the position of acting as a bank, I've long since decided to use them only to transfer money and never store a dime with them.
With that said, I can see the issue folks see with this new addition to their TOS, but it doesn't much bother me because there are a myriad of other reasons to never let them have access to a penny of your money.
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Legend [19911]
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Forgot to mention
Oct 27, 2022, 3:10 PM
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that the prohibition on "provid[ing] false, inaccurate or misleading information" is also nothing new. I'm looking at an archived copy of the Restricted Activities section of their User Agreement from all the way back in October 2015 and it still contains that same language.
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I’ll keep using PayPal and take my chances.
Oct 27, 2022, 9:18 PM
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LOL.
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THIS IS AN OUTRAGE***
Oct 27, 2022, 9:21 PM
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Re: PayPal reinstated $2500 penalty...
Oct 27, 2022, 9:29 PM
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Free speech is dead.
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Re: PayPal reinstated $2500 penalty...
Oct 28, 2022, 8:14 AM
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you don't really understand what the 1A says, huh?
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Re: PayPal reinstated $2500 penalty...
Oct 28, 2022, 8:12 AM
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OMFG a private company sets a policy to not do business with racists, bigots, seditionists, and conspiracy theorist trash.
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