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Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?
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Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 2:43 AM

Can’t get Spectrum, hate Comcast- looking at WOWTV?


Go Tigers!

Just received the below email from YouTubeTV:
Hi XXXXXS,
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We have held good faith negotiations with Disney for several months. Unfortunately, despite our best efforts, we were unable to reach an equitable agreement before our existing one expired.
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As of December 17, 2021, end of day Eastern Time, all Disney?-?owned channels, including ESPN and your local ABC station, are unavailable on YouTube TV. Members will not be able to watch live or local content from Disney and will also lose access to any previous Library recordings from these channels, including 4K content that is available as part of the 4K Plus add?-?on.
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We will be decreasing our monthly price by $15, from $64.99 to $49.99, for the Base Plan while this content remains off of our platform. No action is needed on your part. A credit of $15 per month will automatically be issued. Once content is unavailable, this credit will be applied to your next bill after December 17 and will only be visible to family managers in Settings > Billing after the charge has taken place. Please note that if you have a promotional price with YouTube TV, you can still expect a $15 credit. Members who are in a paused state will receive this credit one month after their first charge.
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Should we come to an agreement with Disney, we will adjust the price accordingly and will notify members via email beforehand. For the full list of Disney?-?owned channels that are no longer available on YouTube TV and for additional information or updates, please visit this webpage.
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We know this is frustrating news, and it is not the outcome we wanted. We will continue conversations with Disney to advocate on your behalf in hopes of restoring their content on YouTube TV.
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Thank you for being a YouTube TV member and for your patience and understanding.
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Sincerely,
The YouTube TV team

This adjusted price applies to all Base Plan members billed during the period when Disney content is not available on YouTube TV. All eligible members will receive a credit of $15. Promotional value of credit is nontransferable, not for resale, and not redeemable for cash.
You received this mandatory email service announcement to update you about important changes to your YouTube TV product or account.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 5:24 AM

Moved from Spectrum to Youtubetv a couple of years ago. No plans to go back. Think I'll try Hulu.

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Yeah, Spectrum looks good but it’s not available in my area of the Lowcountry.


Dec 18, 2021, 6:29 AM

Looked at Sling but appears they won’t permit you to watch sports on a downstairs and upstairs TV at the same time. Crazy!

Anybody using WOWTV’s medium TV package?


TIA

Go Tigers!

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 5:31 AM

I’ll probably go to HULU Live for the free trial and if the channels aren’t back by time the trial ends,.. bye bye, YouTube TV. Which sucks cause I liked the unlimited DVR

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That's what I'm thinking too.***


Dec 18, 2021, 7:19 AM



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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 6:04 AM

Hulu Live is a good deal/great price. The Disney/ESPN+ is their best package for the $.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 6:42 AM

Feels like a strong arm job to force more espn plus subscribers. Currently deciding on whether to pay more for less just to not give money to their plus service

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 7:29 AM

ESPN+ doesn't give you access to the 4 terrestrial ESPN channels just the additional online content. You'll still need a regular TV subscription to watch normal ESPN programming even if you pay for ESPN+

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I don't think it will last all that....


Dec 18, 2021, 7:04 AM

long. I'm going to wait it out because I like being on YouTubeTV.

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Re: I don't think it will last all that....


Dec 18, 2021, 7:21 AM

I also really like Youtubetv. Think I'm gonna "suspend" the account while I figure out an option. It's bowl season!

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What Exactly Would My Fellow


Dec 18, 2021, 7:16 AM

YouTubeTV clients miss in the absence of the ESPN channels? Viewing a meaningless Clemson bowl game at most?

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Re: What Exactly Would My Fellow


Dec 18, 2021, 10:51 AM

If you think a game that Clemson is playing in is meaningless maybe you're just not a real Clemson fan.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 7:20 AM

Fire stick and the FuboTV app- awesome!

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 7:32 AM

All companies will eventually have to go into channel price negotiations at one point or another. I have had Sling, Hulu, my local cable company and You Tube. Sticking with You Tube best by far for myself. This will work itself out but the company they are dealing with are the cause for CATV pricing being so high. Hence they can drop your rate by 15 dollars. ESPN and that bundle charge more per subscriber than anyone else and drives the cost on us up. Then they get more money to pay the conferences. #### flows down hill and this is where we are with ESPN. But Americans can’t live without it so there you are.


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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 19, 2021, 3:09 PM [ in reply to Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to? ]

I love FUBO.tv too. If you have a "Smart TV" (mine is a 2018 Samsung 65" QN65), then then FUBO app is built-in to the TV, and you don't need a Roku.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 7:37 AM

I hate all the streaming services that is why I stuck it out with Comcast. I used multiple free trials and did not miss one Clemson game. I have the best internet, the best tv service and the best dvr. I would not be saving more than $10 a month if I switched to a streaming service. Good luck to all you streamers.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 7:46 AM

It will all be streaming in short order. The company I work for when we install new services do not put boxes in the houses any more. You download the app onto Apple TV or Firestick unless you have a Smart TV and that’s the new service. Basically our telephone/ CATV company is really a broadband company. Just have great internet and you will be fine on anything streaming. I’m sure Comcast is doing the same thing we all do the same thing because it’s the latest technology.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 7:43 AM

College football is done for the season. Who needs ESPN anyway. I pay for Hulu live 4 months of the year. Then cancel when football seasons over. With the college game going in the toilet, I won’t be renewing my subscription next year.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 7:48 AM


College football is done for the season. Who needs ESPN anyway. I pay for Hulu live 4 months of the year. Then cancel when football seasons over. With the college game going in the toilet, I won’t be renewing my subscription next year.


Like the NFL I believe more people than you think will be doing the same thing as you are.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 8:10 AM [ in reply to Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to? ]

I’m with you. Hulu just increased the price for Live TV. Once the bowl game is played I’m shutting it down. Probably won’t be back next year. I’ll keep track from a distance but won’t dedicate an entire Saturday to football anymore.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 7:58 AM

I have FUBO... All the sports channels
ESPN- Espcn2- EspnU ACCN SEC and more.
It is 64.99 a month as well and I love it.
I have Roku but it is available with the fire stick.
I don't regret one minute.. You can try for 7 day trial.

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I just signed up for Fubo...there is no ESPNU...no PBS on


Dec 18, 2021, 1:31 PM

the locals either!

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On Fubo how many devices (e.g., TVs) can you use at the same time?


Dec 18, 2021, 1:31 PM [ in reply to Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to? ]

On YouTubeTV I can stream to 4 devices at the same time. For Sling it looks like only one device for the sports (Orange) package. Even with orange and blue. That sucks!

Go Tigers!

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I love FUBO.tv too: "Smart TV's" have the FUBO app built-in


Dec 19, 2021, 3:12 PM [ in reply to Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to? ]

I love FUBO.tv too. If you have a "Smart TV" (mine is a 2018 Samsung 65" QN65), then then FUBO app is built-in to the TV, and you don't need a Roku or FireStick.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 8:18 AM

Hulu Live TV now includes ESPN+. And since Disney owns it, you'll never lose the other Disney/ESPN channels that YouTubeTV just lost. It's not as easy to use initially as YoutubeTV, but you get used to it quickly, and it has all of the channels, except the Bally Sports ones.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 8:25 AM

I have YouTube TV. I am going to wait and see if they work it out. If not, it looks like FuboTV will be a great replacement.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 8:27 AM

I went to FuboTV before the football season. It works on Firestick, Roku and Apple TV. In fact on the Apple TV you can watch 4 screens at once. The other two devices shows stats during a game. I like it.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 8:41 AM

You pay to access the channels and then get bombarded with paid commercials you have to sit through. In the end all these channels come back and renegotiate the prices so honestly these services are all in the same boat. Im sure all of you have seen those messages that come up on screens telling you to call your tv provider if you do not want to lose their channel. Your provider don’t want you to lose that channel but they also do not want to enter a bad deal and have to raise their prices to points that are not competitive.

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I just signed up for the Fubo free trial...appears to be no


Dec 18, 2021, 9:34 AM [ in reply to Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to? ]

ESPNU or PBS!

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FUBO.Tv definitely has ESPN-U. Click GUIDE, you'll see it


Dec 18, 2021, 4:06 PM

FUBO.Tv definitely has ESPN-U. Click GUIDE and scan down, you'll see it.

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I love FUBO.tv too: "Smart TV's" have the FUBO app built-in


Dec 19, 2021, 3:14 PM [ in reply to Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to? ]

I love FUBO.tv too. If you have a "Smart TV" (mine is a 2018 Samsung 65" QN65), then then FUBO app is built-in to the TV, and you don't need a Roku or FireStick.

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PRO TIP


Dec 18, 2021, 8:33 AM

I can't guarantee this will work but it worked for 9/10 Clemson games I watched this year. Just go to plain old free youtube and type "Clemson vs XXXXX 2021" or "Clemson vs XXXXX Live". I didn't buy a single service this year between antenna and free youtube. The only game I had trouble with was the coot game. It was low def and got taken down a few times but they would put a new feed up immediately. I plan to do this for any bowl game I want to watch.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 8:33 AM

Well, Disney is doing this to peel off YouTube tv subscribers and move them to Hulu Live (which they own). The Mouse drives a hard bargain.

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Hulu Live…


Dec 18, 2021, 8:34 AM

Already got the Disney+ bundle, so I guess it makes sense to just switch over. Figure since Disney owns them too, they won’t be dropping the sports channels.

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I like YTTV but this is the 2nd time Google has pulled this


Dec 18, 2021, 8:47 AM

stunt. They did also did it recently with Roku.

I just canceled my YTTV sub and my Disney+ sub and switched to the Hulu Live bundle.

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Re: I like YTTV but this is the 2nd time Google has pulled this


Dec 18, 2021, 8:58 AM

It’s not Google it’s Disney. In my opinion Google is trying to get a fair price. Disney recognizes the popularity of You Tube and wants a bigger price of the pie. If Disney owns Hulu and everyone switches to Hulu would Hulu not be able to keep increasing their cost. I had Hulu for years and it was not bad but have liked You Tube better. It’s just a mess and with these imploded sports cost will not get any better anytime soon.

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I think Disney is the one "pulling this stunt"!***


Dec 18, 2021, 9:03 AM [ in reply to I like YTTV but this is the 2nd time Google has pulled this ]



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You just did exactly what Disney was hoping you would do!


Dec 18, 2021, 9:06 AM [ in reply to I like YTTV but this is the 2nd time Google has pulled this ]

Switched to their subsidiary...Hulu!

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Re: You just did exactly what Disney was hoping you would do!


Dec 18, 2021, 9:12 AM

Exactly!

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FuboTV has a free trial and seems to have more sports


Dec 18, 2021, 9:39 AM

channels than any other carrier. All the ESPN family (including ACC, SEC) as well as PAC12, Big10, Stadium and many more available.

I'm giving them a shot right now and thus far FuboTV is better than YouTubeTV on android and FireTV. The Fubo Roku and Samsung apps work really well as well. I'm probably going to ditch YTTV after the free trial if it continues to go this smoothly...

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Re: FuboTV has a free trial and seems to have more sports


Dec 18, 2021, 10:08 AM

As far as fubo, do you know if we can stream outside of the home if we are away on business?

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Re: FuboTV has a free trial and seems to have more sports


Dec 18, 2021, 10:17 AM

You can stream to different locations but only to one at a time. You and your wife can not watch it at the same time in two different locations. That’s a knockout for me.

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I just signed up for Fubo free trial...I don't see ESPNU,***


Dec 18, 2021, 12:57 PM [ in reply to FuboTV has a free trial and seems to have more sports ]



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I get ESPN-U on my FUBO


Dec 18, 2021, 3:45 PM

I get ESPN-U on my FUBO. => https://www.fubo.tv/


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Yes, "Smart TV's" have the FUBO app built-in


Dec 19, 2021, 3:15 PM [ in reply to FuboTV has a free trial and seems to have more sports ]

I love FUBO.tv too. If you have a "Smart TV" (mine is a 2018 Samsung 65" QN65), then then FUBO app is built-in to the TV, and you don't need a Roku or FireStick.

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Buy a chromecast


Dec 18, 2021, 10:24 AM

and mooch off your friends or relatives subscription that has ESPN and stream what you want.

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Even if Disney is the culprit I think YTTV needs to learn...


Dec 18, 2021, 10:48 AM

....a lesson. They are going down the same untenable path as the cable companies....adding garbage channels that the vast majority don't care about then jacking up the price. Charge me $65 then let me pick up to 30 channels out of their 85 channel lineup. I doubt I even watch 20 of their chitty channels out of the 85 they offer(ed).

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Pretty annoying when Sports South, et al. disappeared...


Dec 18, 2021, 11:00 AM

...then added more garbage channels.

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Re: Pretty annoying when Sports South, et al. disappeared...


Dec 18, 2021, 11:27 AM

Yea it’s the major channels, the ESPN’s, Golf Channel and the Oxygen channel for me most of the time. Addicted to those real crime shows.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 11:43 AM

Dumped youtube tv. Switched to sling orange and the sports extra package. After football ends will dump them all until next football season

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Dec 18, 2021, 11:48 AM

I'll stick with YouTube for a while. I like that I can use the same account at my lake house when I go there.

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Dec 19, 2021, 12:11 PM



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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 12:15 PM

I have heard a lot of good things on a good HD antenna.

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Dec 18, 2021, 12:24 PM



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Staying with YouTube TV and doing free trials of FuboTV


Dec 18, 2021, 1:04 PM

Until this is resolved

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 2:16 PM

I havent had cable or a live tv streaming service in years. I have not missed a single game on tv yet. Any sports you want to watch you can find somewhere online for free.

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FUBO.tv=GREAT (ACCN, ESPN’s, Golf…), Hulu=Horrible


Dec 18, 2021, 3:50 PM

I’m telling you, Get FUBO.TV. They have All of the Sports (ACCN, all the ESPN’s, Golf…++++), and a beautiful Interface.
I tried Hulu first, and what a mess.
FUBO (“Standard”) costs me $60/mo, the “Family” plan (3 TV’s simul) is $65/mo.
For God’s sake, stay away from Hulu.

EASY RECORDING Too:
Oops, I forgot: FUBO has great Recording, very easy to do.

And, one more thing: I’ve yet to have FUBO go down on me, and I’ve had it about a year.
BTW, I just checked ESPN-U. It's there – not sure why a couple of people said they don’t get it)
=> https://www.fubo.tv/


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Dec 19, 2021, 3:00 PM

Thanks for the heads up about FUBO. I just signed up and so far I am pleased. I wasn't sure what to try after YTTV took off the ESPN channels. If you pay quarterly they add the sports lite package which includes ESPNU


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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 18, 2021, 9:15 PM

Switched to hulu today!! So far, so good!!

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Dec 19, 2021, 11:43 AM

Which one enables multiple users?

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 19, 2021, 11:56 AM

I had switched from Hulu to You Tube for tailgating. Had a rough time getting location situated on Hulu. You Tube was simple in that regard.

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Dec 19, 2021, 12:01 PM

I was looking at DishStream or whatever was tied to AT&T and had no luck at getting any help. Tried that for an hour or so with no luck. There was a reason I had left Hulu but can’t remember besides the tailgating issue.

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Re: Sorry if Germans but with NO ESPN, ACCN, SEC etc, who are YouTubeTV viewers going to?


Dec 19, 2021, 3:06 PM

Signed up and canceled my YouTube tv within an hour of the usc game this year since I don’t get the sec network. Thanks for the free preview.

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