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Re: Dear Old Clemson: NIL Collective
Jun 2, 2022, 8:47 AM
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Run by misogynists so hard pass
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What in the world?
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Jun 2, 2022, 8:52 AM
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First time I’ve seen this.
So basically any of us can try to start our own version of IPTAY now?
Can’t imagine this going well.
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Re: What in the world?
Jun 2, 2022, 9:03 AM
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It’s the same as the garnet trust thing that the chickens started. A way to pool funds for different NIL priorities. It’s a way for the fan that doesn’t have deep pockets to contribute to NIL. I can’t give someone a car, but I may be able to contribute a little bit of cash to the pool.
People on TNet have been complaining that nobody is doing anything for Clemson’s NIL…well, somebody is.
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I’m just wondering who is managing this.
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Jun 2, 2022, 9:17 AM
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Is it university sanctioned?
Or can anyone buy a domain name, build a website, collect as much as $12,000 each from people, and then be in charge of managing those funds?
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Re: I’m just wondering who is managing this.
Jun 2, 2022, 9:26 AM
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They can’t be connected to the University in any way. That’s what the law says, at least.
I would imagine they have been in touch with the NIL people in the athletic department, but don’t think it’s necessary.
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Yikes. I’ll pass.***
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Jun 2, 2022, 9:38 AM
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Re: What in the world?
Jun 2, 2022, 10:06 AM
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Garnet Trust is an oxymoron.
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Re: What in the world?
Jun 2, 2022, 5:08 PM
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Garnet Trust is an oxymoron.
They have another one named Carolina Rise, too.
Which is also an oxymoron.
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Oh no might be illegal, let's run it by Neff, best just to wait and see, it'll all blow over****
Jun 2, 2022, 12:25 PM
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Re: Dear Old Clemson: NIL Collective
Jun 2, 2022, 9:12 AM
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This one was started by Robert at TCI so ….
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Re: Dear Old Clemson: NIL Collective
Jun 2, 2022, 9:31 AM
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Does that matter?
Maybe TNet should start a collective? I’m sure you would contribute…
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Re: Dear Old Clemson: NIL Collective
Jun 2, 2022, 10:06 AM
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To some it matters a lot. Given the current situation/lack of rules I would not support something I believe to be bad for both athletes and college sports. If I were planning to support it would not be to this particular org
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Re: Dear Old Clemson: NIL Collective
Jun 2, 2022, 10:37 AM
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Wow. You sure did a lot of chirping and whining about putting NIL to work for basketball to all of a sudden do a 180 on the whole concept when opportunities present themselves and it's time to put up or shut up.
Carry on, Cobbox.
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Re: Dear Old Clemson: NIL Collective
Jun 2, 2022, 11:02 AM
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Wow. You sure did a lot of chirping and whining about putting NIL to work for basketball to all of a sudden do a 180 on the whole concept when opportunities present themselves and it's time to put up or shut up.
Carry on, Cobbox.
In response to how does a below average program improve. I offered NIL as an option but never stated I would give money to the effort. You see, some think the only option is to fire the coach but those who follow the sport realize this solution hardly ever works for lesser programs wanting to break through. So my point was to offer alternatives.
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Hale that dude is too cheap to even pay for basic cable to
Jun 2, 2022, 12:21 PM
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Watch Clemson play; he’s gonna hide behind principal in order to keep a death grip on his cash. His money and his mouth don’t even live in the same zip code.
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Re: Hale that dude is too cheap to even pay for basic cable to
Jun 2, 2022, 12:52 PM
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Watch Clemson play; he’s gonna hide behind principal in order to keep a death grip on his cash. His money and his mouth don’t even live in the same zip code.
Still waiting on your Venmo to send you fifty cents so you can quit crying and be happy
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Re: Dear Old Clemson: NIL Collective
Jun 2, 2022, 11:05 AM
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NIL collectives are exactly how Texas A&M got a #1 recruiting class. Legally. Some like to say they bought their team. Others say their boosters got together to provide a competitive NIL collective, within the rules put in place. The end result, regardless, was a stellar class.
You hear constantly how Clemson has to step up with NIL or get left behind. How else are we supposed to step up? What other ideas are there?
You may not like the guy that started this but at least someone is making an effort.
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Two things:
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Jun 2, 2022, 11:32 AM
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1. What has this “stellar class” at Texas A&M done?
I’ll give you a clue. A&M is getting a bunch of guys who are already looking around for the next college they will jump to.
2. Are you suggesting we start sending money to any stooge who starts a “NIL collective” website, and we really don’t know where all the money is going?
Watch out.
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Re: Two things:
Jun 2, 2022, 11:56 AM
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Not at all. NIL collectives is what the big boys are doing. I’m asking, if not NIL collectives, then what?
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I’ll answer your “then what” question.
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Jun 2, 2022, 12:13 PM
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I’ll take kids who want to attend Clemson and play ball for Clemson.
I happen to believe our TEAMS will frequently prevail over the other people who appear to be in a frantic race to the bottom.
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Re: I’ll answer your “then what” question.
Jun 2, 2022, 12:40 PM
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So, ignore NIL and it will go away?
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We’re not even ignoring it.
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Jun 2, 2022, 1:24 PM
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Clemson’s athletic department is handling it in a reasonable and professional way.
So our athletes do have opportunities, and they have help managing the deals that come their way.
We saw many Clemson players with deals this past year.
It’s just not used as the main focal point for their existence.
There’s a difference.
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Athletic department's actions...
Jun 2, 2022, 4:00 PM
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Are half hearted (more symbolism than substance) attempts oriented in creating an appearance more so than anything else for the casuals. It's disappointing to lose position as quickly as it will come, is coming.
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Stellar class is an understatement, it's the arguably the best ever on paper, inarguably top 2..
Jun 2, 2022, 12:34 PM
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Even if half bolt the impact will be significant-
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They haven’t played a game yet.
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Jun 2, 2022, 12:37 PM
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Just watch. It will all unravel.
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Yet, here you are ... supporting TNet by being here and
Jun 2, 2022, 12:30 PM
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having web ads popping up all over the page. Are you the toe fungus model?
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Link?***
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Jun 2, 2022, 11:39 AM
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Re: Dear Old Clemson: NIL Collective
Jun 2, 2022, 9:27 AM
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Let's just buy Bitcoin and Ethereum and use that as a collective for our beloved Tigers
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Fertile ground for the FBI
Jun 2, 2022, 9:51 AM
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I don't know anything about that particular organization, but this whole NIL wild west is likely going to spawn a bunch of independent efforts that exist primarily to skim off top, luring the mindless eager masses of loyal college sports fans to make untold thousands and millions of small-time donations and fill the coffers of what essentially will be fraudulent fronts for the benefit of the organizers.
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That’s exactly the red flag
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Jun 2, 2022, 10:05 AM
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that came up for me as soon as I saw that website.
Who the heck does the financial reporting?
No way in hellll I’m giving to this.
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Fools and their money are soon parted.***
Jun 2, 2022, 11:10 AM
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Re: Fertile ground for the FBI
Jun 2, 2022, 10:08 AM
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Correct !!!! Anywhere there is a supply of money, there magically appears a group of crooks.
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Sorry, but my hard earned bucks will go elsewhere.
Jun 2, 2022, 11:07 AM
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These kids get a ton already. If that means Clemson can no longer compete at the highest “what can be bought” level, so be it. ‘89 grad here who just cant get on board with the “me” society.
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Re: Sorry, but my hard earned bucks will go elsewhere.
Jun 2, 2022, 11:22 AM
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Well said. If I had more money than I knew what to do with then maybe, but for now, I still have to think about where my hard earned money goes. Ticket prices are hard enough to justify.
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For those who are willing to contribute to a collective
Jun 2, 2022, 12:40 PM
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Who would you trust to run it? This isn’t a trick question to further a point; just curious about who donors would trust. Keep in mind by NCAA guidelines (as worthless as those may be) it can’t be someone affiliated with the university.
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They included a lawyer, so it has to be legit.***
Jun 2, 2022, 12:56 PM
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I applaud the idea, but I don't see this
Jun 2, 2022, 12:52 PM
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making much of a difference.
If we're being honest, local mom 'n pop businesses in Clemson having players do autograph sessions or selling t-shirts with their faces on them isn't going to move the needle very much.
Every school we are recruiting against can offer autograph appearances at Billy Bob's Auto Parts or Lula Mae's Meat 'n Three.
Again, nice idea, but success with NIL is going to require bigger thinking and deeper pockets than this.
I also don't like the fact that people can earmark football but not any other sport. While I agree that football should be the biggest priority, if someone wants to earmark their donation for another sport they should be free to do so.
I won't be donating to this, but wish them the best.
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What if it was endorsed by CBB?****
Jun 2, 2022, 3:47 PM
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That wouldn't change my view that this isn't likely
Jun 2, 2022, 4:09 PM
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to be much of a difference maker.
I'm glad they are doing it though, I just don't have much optimism about it. I certainly hope I'm wrong.
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Re: That wouldn't change my view that this isn't likely
Jun 3, 2022, 8:41 AM
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To be completely honest, I don’t trust the guy’s judgement… so I can’t see investing in something with his name on it.
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