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Next week, on a Very Special Ted Lasso…*sigh*
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Next week, on a Very Special Ted Lasso…*sigh*

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May 25, 2023, 7:53 AM

Really?

You mean they’ve gone through all these convoluted, non-story storylines just to end like this?

FFS.

I’ve never been so ready for a once-good show to end.

And don’t get me started on that Freddie Mercury line…

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I'm a couple episodes back. But it's really fallen off a

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May 25, 2023, 8:36 AM

cliff this year. They should have quit after last season.

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Re: I'm a couple episodes back. But it's really fallen off a

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May 25, 2023, 8:44 AM

Haven’t watched Ted Lasso, but you have to respect show creators who make what they wanted to make and stop while they’re ahead. Just off the top of my head, Westworld should have been one season, Mandalorian newest season is meh, Eastbound and Down should have quit after season 2, Handmaid’s tale has been lame for 3 seasons now, among many many more. Some great single-season shows, 1883, Band of Brothers, Maniac, John Adams, Fargo.

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I’m curious to see if Severance can keep it going or if

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May 25, 2023, 8:51 AM

The concept behind the show was so novel that it will be hard to do anything but just more of the same for season 2.

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Yah. Kind of the Matrix thing. Once the story is out...***

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May 25, 2023, 9:24 AM



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My go to examples for went on too long and stopped just

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May 25, 2023, 10:37 AM [ in reply to Re: I'm a couple episodes back. But it's really fallen off a ]

right are Sons of Anarchy and Justified.

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Justified was good to the last drop.


May 25, 2023, 5:21 PM [ in reply to Re: I'm a couple episodes back. But it's really fallen off a ]

cannot wait for it to come back.

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It’s exactly what we predicted.

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May 25, 2023, 8:46 AM

They took an entire season to take a bizarre plot field trip to progressiveland, only to try and tie it up with a nice bow in an episode and a half.

Ted goes home, nate takes over Richmond, Roy and Keely get back together, despite her apparently digging girls now, team owner gets Rupert kicked out of league with help from his current wife and secretary. Woo hoo

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ProGrEsSiVLaNd, the horror.***

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May 25, 2023, 9:33 AM



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Cole @ Beach Cole w/ Clemson Hat


What's wrong with Flo protecting all your bundles?***

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May 25, 2023, 9:40 AM



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Gays should be offended by the latest episode.

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May 25, 2023, 9:46 AM [ in reply to ProGrEsSiVLaNd, the horror.*** ]

It was gay cultural appropriation AND revisionist history re: Freddie Mercury. Hail, I was offended.

I seriously hope they cleared that line with Freddie’s family because if not, it was not cool. At all.

And don’t get me started on Keeley, the writer dude, and the gay player.

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You are really grasping at straws to hate the show because

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May 25, 2023, 9:48 AM

it has some LGBTQ people.

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You’re smarter than this overly-simple hot take.***

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May 25, 2023, 10:02 AM



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Maybe I am not. I just don't get the hate, especially when

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May 25, 2023, 10:11 AM

it centers around the LGBTQ characters. APM said gay people should be offended by the last episode. Why? For the Flipping Straights comment? I just completely missed how that one comment that he took offense to would be such a big deal.

Apparently they tried to show Freddie in the pilot as a former owner, an homage to Elton John formerly owning Watford. They couldn't get permission to show his face and so they cut the scene. This was a way to work him into the show because that was a storyline early on that got cut.

I truly don't get the hate.

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I mostly enjoyed this last episode

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May 25, 2023, 10:20 AM

Ted saying “FU” to his seemingly sweet mom was entirely out of character though and pretty crappy.

The bigger writing issue is how the show started during Covid and was a rare ray of positivity in TV. It was a feel-good show and everyone knew it. For some reason, as Hollywood is wont to do, they’ve had to transform it into every character dealing with therapy-requiring levels of angst each and every episode. The Uber-gay plot lines are just part of that larger issue.

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The gay storylines are feel-good & positivity too...***

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May 25, 2023, 10:27 AM



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True. And just as poorly executed as the rest this season.

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May 25, 2023, 10:30 AM

Like the whole Zava thing. ### was that even for? Was like they just needed 3 more episodes and wedged it in.

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Zava was weird BUT if you know soccer, it is based off

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May 25, 2023, 10:39 AM

Zlatan and so it got the chuckles for that. Getting rid of him so abruptly was a weird thing, but the show isn't ABOUT soccer so he shouldn't be the focus.

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It was like they did all that purely to work in Rebecca's

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May 25, 2023, 10:43 AM

asparagus pee joke. Had no impact on storyline before or after even though it was the main focus of those episodes. Like if the Springfield Monorail only had one joke and lasted 3 episodes.

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"Uber-gay plot lines" is quite the stretch

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May 25, 2023, 10:41 AM [ in reply to I mostly enjoyed this last episode ]

There is a gay player on the team. Happens probably more than we realize, this one just seemed to come out. Crimm is there to be a safe space when he needs it, before he is accepted.

Keely testing the lesbian waters is probably more about her needing to be in a relationship. She comes out of it stronger and more independent.

And THAT is the end of the Uber-gay plot lines.

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And speaking of, dubyateeeff happened to the therapist?!?

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May 25, 2023, 10:49 AM [ in reply to I mostly enjoyed this last episode ]

Ted mentions her, but I think she's been seen maybe twice this season?

I didn't like her character much, but daphuque? You bring in new storylines and characters with no real purpose but abandon one who apparently is a big help to the lead character?

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Just the opposite of hate. IF the biographies are to be

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May 25, 2023, 11:07 AM [ in reply to Maybe I am not. I just don't get the hate, especially when ]

believed, Freddie Mercury (RIP) was not ever trying to flip straights. That was not in his character. So why put in a crap line like that when lazy people might think is true?

That is disrespectful to Freddie Mercury's memory and stereotypical. As I said, cultural appropriation.

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Re: You are really grasping at straws to hate the show because

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May 25, 2023, 10:03 AM [ in reply to You are really grasping at straws to hate the show because ]

my problem with that whole plot line, was not even addressed thru the first seasons, now it is the main plot line of this whole season. Was very clumsy and awkward as far as plot lines, and I'm not referring to the actual subject. Was like the writers all the sudden felt like they had to make up for previous seasons of non inclusion

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Haven't seen the latest episode yet, but if you have

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May 25, 2023, 9:51 AM [ in reply to Gays should be offended by the latest episode. ]

problems with Keeley, Trent, and Colin...ROFL, like I said, the horror.

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Wildly incongruent writing without purpose is the horror

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May 25, 2023, 10:01 AM [ in reply to ProGrEsSiVLaNd, the horror.*** ]

I watch several progressive shows with excellent writing. Ted lasso turning the Andy Griffith show into The L-Word for a season for no real reason and totally discombobulating the plot line in the process is the horror. Don’t take my word for it, liberal critics hat the show this season as much as conservatives do.

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Then it's not the "progressiveland" that's hurting the show

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May 25, 2023, 10:06 AM

if liberal critics hat[e] it too?

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No, it absolutely is.

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May 25, 2023, 10:13 AM

It’s like the writers got a memo from HR that the show hadn’t been progressive enough, and with this being the last season, they’d better make up for lost time. The desire to push a progressive message overrode the desire to put together a quality, cohesive plot.

It would be like in the last season of the Sopranos having Tony, Christopher, and Meadow decide they had gender dysphoria, and making 40% of that season’s episodes about it while ignoring everything else.

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Oh geez, the horror. And no, it wasn't that far out of left

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May 25, 2023, 10:25 AM

field as your Sopranos example.

Trent was obviously metrosexual/gay the first two seasons, they just gave him more screen time this season. Colin was closeted and they added his story, the horror of gay people. Keeley's was a small arc and they needed something with her departing the club - which arguably was a stupid direction.

It's just hilarious to hate a show because there are gay people in it, what did you expect from an Apple+ program

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Cole @ Beach Cole w/ Clemson Hat


This is the truly sad part of it.

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May 25, 2023, 10:33 AM

If they made Trent, Keely, and Colin suddenly into stamp collectors, with multiple episodes focusing on their seemingly new hobby and the angst it caused them, I would say it was horrible writing pushed by a clear philatelic agenda, and we’d probably have a normal conversation about it.

On this topic though, even though you’re in a clear minority who is denying that this season is a monster drop-off, writing-wise, we can’t have the same discussion because you can’t do it without over-personalizing it into I must just hate it because gays are the topic. You’re insulting your intellect as much as you’re insulting me. Bad writing is the over-arching problem. The randomly pointless gay plot line is just how bad writing was expressed in this case. People don’t say Happy Days jumped the shark because they just hate sharks.

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I have said the show should've ended after Season 2

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May 25, 2023, 10:37 AM

Most of this season has been fluff. You and APM are the ones constantly upset because they keep highlighting gay people.

They already did something similar with Nate playing violin half the episode, did you hate that too?

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I’ve posted about the show taking a terrible negative

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May 25, 2023, 10:45 AM

Tone far more than the gay stuff. You don’t really jump into those threads.

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I was in the only one I saw...so yes, I did jump in.***

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May 25, 2023, 10:47 AM



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Actually, seems to be you just have a problem with gays.

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May 25, 2023, 10:49 AM

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/so-ted-lasso-and-more-plot-cultural-forcing--spoilers-32615603


Unless if you have other threads discussing the show.

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Congrats. You found a lost saying exactly what I’ve been

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May 25, 2023, 10:52 AM

Saying in this one. I’ve made plenty of lasso posts. At least 5 threads I can think of, and no I’m not going to search them.

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Like I said, literally the only one I saw and hopped in.

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May 25, 2023, 10:53 AM

I haven't been around as much on Tigernet with starting my own business and the kiddo.

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Cole @ Beach Cole w/ Clemson Hat


Ok, well I’m happy to assure you

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May 25, 2023, 10:55 AM

That I just haven’t turned into an intolerant bigot since the days kn which we were regularly interacting, and you still need to fix that #%^* motorcycle.

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I never said that or thought that.

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May 25, 2023, 10:57 AM

But you have started defending a lot of them in P&R, so maybe you have ;).

Yeah yeah, it's an intentional coup between my buddy and my wife so I won't drive it - the Tesla definitely fills that itch though.

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How long have you been waiting to use the word philatelic***

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May 25, 2023, 1:53 PM [ in reply to This is the truly sad part of it. ]



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Re: Wildly incongruent writing without purpose is the horror

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May 25, 2023, 12:24 PM [ in reply to Wildly incongruent writing without purpose is the horror ]

Progressives have two options. Either go full woke with a show from the beginning, which usually results in terrible ratings, or hijack a nonwoke successful show and then force their garbage on the rest us, whether it makes any sense based on the series up to that point or not. If you don't like it you are just a knuckle dragging hater and, besides, its someone elses money they are flushing down the toilet so what do they care? Now sometimes woke can be well done and actually add something to the show but it's unusually a ham fisted disaster that looks like it was written by a tenth grader who hates that the rest of the world isn't as miserable as they are.

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Looking at the world through your lenses must absolutely

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May 25, 2023, 1:14 PM

suck ballsacks (but TOTALLY not in a gay way)

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It's funny to picture Hollywood executives as some

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May 25, 2023, 3:33 PM [ in reply to Re: Wildly incongruent writing without purpose is the horror ]

ultra left-wing megawoke political crusaders when really they're just a bunch of corporate tools trying to squeeze every last penny out of a commercial product.

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Are you saying

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May 25, 2023, 9:46 AM [ in reply to It’s exactly what we predicted. ]

Go Woke, Go Broke?

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And will boss get a new Iphone 14?***

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May 25, 2023, 12:35 PM [ in reply to It’s exactly what we predicted. ]



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They're definitely leaning in to the sentimental.

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May 25, 2023, 9:36 AM

And since we know it's the last season, the trajectory for the characters has been really transparent. That said, I still think it's great.

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We all knew it was ending and we all knew the obvious end

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May 25, 2023, 9:49 AM

I don't understand the hate. ATL and Obed HATE on it every week though. While I watch and enjoy. Oh well.

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The gay stuff doesn't bother me. The show has just gotten

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May 25, 2023, 9:53 AM

really much worse this year I think.

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Eh, I'm no TV critic and just enjoy a good sitcom. This one

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May 25, 2023, 9:57 AM

checks most of the boxes for me. I just wanted to see some nudity, that is my only complaint.

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Piggy Stardust was funny. + 1 for that.***

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May 25, 2023, 10:03 AM



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It’s maddening because the writing is horrible.

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May 25, 2023, 10:09 AM [ in reply to We all knew it was ending and we all knew the obvious end ]

I’m not allergic to homosexuality and I don’t even mind writers throwing their morality into the plot line. If they’d have just made it the Colin plot line, it would have made sense and flowed well with the plot. But just taking this giant veer into gayville out of left field for 3 different characters over the course of like 2-3 episodes and then just randomly having a main character jump right back out of being a lesbian in a really sloppy fashion (her billionaire girlfriend runs to Argentina because she had a nude leak? Cmon)

It’s terrible, terrible writing and puts the moral activism over the plot. It’s like Apple let their HR department dictate this shows writing.

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Maybe it's just because I've dated girls who've dated girls

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May 25, 2023, 10:28 AM

but the Keeley side plot just didn't strike me as unusual or unbelievable. If there was supposed to be a moral message there, I don't know what it is. Is it, "Be cool with nudes"? "Jealousy is unbecoming"?

Maybe the writing has gotten worse, I don't know. To me it's a lighthearted show and I don't take it very seriously, so if some things strain credulity it's not a problem.

While we're on the topic of Freddie Mercury, it's crazy to think about all the gay, bi, and androgenous stuff that went on in the '70s and now 50 years later people complain that a sitcom is woke or progressive because there are one or more gay characters in it. It's beyond crazy, actually. It's depressing.

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Ok, let’s go with that topic.

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May 25, 2023, 10:39 AM

How about the unbelievably bad and painfully long “delete your nudes” locker room scene. There are ABC after school specials that are more entertaining and less preachy than that.

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JFC man, just quit watching the show. I have never cared

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May 25, 2023, 10:47 AM

so much about a show I hate-watch scene for scene. I cannot imagine watching something I don't enjoy, why waste your time like that?

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Hey, look up.

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May 25, 2023, 10:54 AM

I said I’ve enjoyed the last two episodes this season. Why do you care so much if I like it? I’d stop likely if I didn’t know when it was ending, but it’s not hard to get to the end of a third season when you already have two under your belt. Also, isn’t boycotting what intolerant people do?

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Weird last sentence, but you are right. I shouldn't care

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May 25, 2023, 10:58 AM

and I should step out of this thread now.

I think I have hate-watched shows before though, but only because my wife was watching them and I was trying my best to stay awake and get lucky at the end. Bridgerton is a fucking TERRIBLE show though.

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I added Queen Charlotte to the Plex server and wife has

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May 25, 2023, 11:00 AM

already watched it, fortunately I never had to.

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That one has/had alot of sex in it and I still couldn't

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May 25, 2023, 11:03 AM

stay awake during the show. It is even worse.

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My larger point was that

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May 25, 2023, 11:06 AM [ in reply to Weird last sentence, but you are right. I shouldn't care ]

if I simply couldn't stand gay people or themes, I would have taken your suggestion and stopped watching many episodes ago.

You're talking to the guy who watched every single episode of Lost, only to realize that was 7 years of TV watching I'd never get back when they had that TERRIBLE ending. I can handle 3 abbreviated seasons of Ted Lasso.

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I didn't realize that was a message.

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May 25, 2023, 11:26 AM [ in reply to Ok, let’s go with that topic. ]

That's like saying it's preachy if characters on a show say you should back up your hard drive. It's not a moral lesson. I'm not even sure if "Delete your nudes in case you get hacked" applies to anyone besides celebrities. Nobody would make money leaking pics of my dingdong to the press.

Just to be clear, I'm not arguing over whether or not it's a good season. That's entirely subjective. But to not like a show because of a character's sexual orientation is lame and out of touch by 1990s standards let alone 2020s.

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Just read my other posts in the thread

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May 25, 2023, 11:33 AM

I can only say it so many ways. The writing is wholly incongruous and scattershot—that’s what annoys me. The sudden random appearance of overtly gay characters just happens to be how that incongruity appears in this instance.

If Bo and Luke Duke had suddenly started driving a Honda Civic CVCC to save fuel and had multiple episodes in season 3 about the importance of respecting law enforcement, I’d make the same criticism.

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Somehow I sense that the sudden random appearance of the

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May 25, 2023, 11:50 AM

straight guy in the house boat who Rebecca hangs out with for one episode didn't rustle anyone's jimmies the same way.

Did you say you've started at least five threads about this season of Ted Lasso? I'm not sure if any show is bad enough to justify that much effort.

There seem to be a lot of people who are ok with gay people existing just so long as they don't have to see them. And that may not be you, but it's a lot of people complaining about the show in these threads. So many of the comments are, "I have no problem with gay people, but why do I have to see them on television???" Their discomfort makes them angry and their anger makes them want someone to blame, hence the whole "It's an agenda." Rather than get mad at the television, they should consider why it makes them so uncomfortable in the first place. But something tells me introspection is not their strong suit.

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To Be Fair, Obed did talk about that being an issue, IIRC

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May 25, 2023, 12:10 PM

And THAT might have been the weirdest part of this season.



*THAT being the random dude that Rebecca may have banged but doesn't remember and who apparently took advantage (maybe) of her and it was just glossed over. I assumed she would end up preggers or something.


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Correct and thanks homie***

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May 25, 2023, 1:33 PM



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Also, I think we all know why they called him Boss Hogg.***

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May 25, 2023, 12:53 PM [ in reply to Just read my other posts in the thread ]



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Re: Just read my other posts in the thread

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May 25, 2023, 1:10 PM [ in reply to Just read my other posts in the thread ]

If Bo and Luke Duke had suddenly started driving a Honda Civic CVCC to save fuel and had multiple episodes in season 3 about the importance of respecting law enforcement, I’d make the same criticism.


Oh, you're just gonna sit here and gloss over Coy and Vance?

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Isn't the whole show sort of camp? Isn't that the point...

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May 25, 2023, 1:56 PM [ in reply to It’s maddening because the writing is horrible. ]

all of the characters are exaggerated personalities.

It's not meant to be a drama.

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Awww, watch Matlock or the Golden Girls then.

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May 25, 2023, 9:45 AM

I liked the Mama Lasso episode. After last season we knew that Richmond we’re gonna win the EPL, it was just a question of how the writers would get there. After the first two seasons of Ted focus and plot driving they had to do side stories this season. Not only because it’s the fertile ground but writers like to leave room for spin offs.

The gay thing just doesn’t bother me, what I thought was missing most from this season was dialogue. It wasn’t as snappy or as funny. I get that the Tedisms can get stale, but Dabo’s been dropping his isms for over a decade and he ain’t stale bread yet. Ted, Roy, and Keeley are the funniest dialogue driven characters, should’ve leaned into them more.

Oh well, first season was a master class on how to do a sit com.

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Google Bard has come to help:

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May 25, 2023, 10:46 AM

What do I tell a friend who is upset with the forced gay plot lines in the latest season of Ted Lasso?


First, it's important to understand why your friend is upset. Are they uncomfortable with the idea of gay characters in general? Or do they feel like the show is trying to be too woke? Once you understand their perspective, you can start to have a more productive conversation.

If your friend is uncomfortable with the idea of gay characters, you can try to explain to them that gay people are just like everyone else. They deserve to be represented in the media just as much as anyone else. You can also point out that Ted Lasso is a show that is all about love and acceptance. It would be hypocritical for the show to preach these values while excluding gay people.

If your friend feels like the show is trying to be too woke, you can explain that the writers are simply trying to reflect the world around us. More and more people are coming out as gay, and it's important for the media to reflect this reality. You can also point out that the gay storyline in Ted Lasso is handled in a very sensitive and respectful way.

Ultimately, the best way to talk to your friend about this is to be open and understanding. Listen to their concerns and try to see things from their perspective. If you can do that, you'll be more likely to have a productive conversation.

Here are some specific things you can say to your friend:

*- "I understand that you're uncomfortable with the gay plot lines in Ted Lasso. I want you to know that I respect your opinion, but I also think it's important to have these kinds of stories represented in the media."
*- "Gay people are just like everyone else. They deserve to be represented in the media just as much as anyone else."
*- "Ted Lasso is a show that is all about love and acceptance. It would be hypocritical for the show to preach these values while excluding gay people."
*- "The gay storyline in Ted Lasso is handled in a very sensitive and respectful way. I think you'll be surprised at how much you enjoy it if you give it a chance."

It's also important to remember that you may not be able to change your friend's mind. That's okay. All you can do is try to have a respectful conversation and explain your own perspective. If your friend is still not comfortable with the show, that's their decision.

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Cole @ Beach Cole w/ Clemson Hat


########***

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May 25, 2023, 12:38 PM



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"something in these hills..." -joe sherman


Oh. And that incest-y crap with Tartt & his mum? Creepy AF.***

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May 25, 2023, 12:30 PM



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Creepiest thing about Tartt is how he says Poo-peh for

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May 25, 2023, 1:15 PM

poop. Incest? Did we watch a different show?

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Because she repeated the line about him having been a

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May 25, 2023, 3:42 PM

sexy li'l bay-beh, which was a callback to season 1.

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You didn't think this thread would turn into white knighting

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May 25, 2023, 2:57 PM

for the homasex's, did you? It's entertaining though LOL



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lulz - APM has done his job today! *pats self on back****

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May 25, 2023, 3:42 PM



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Soccerkrzy, your TD sword cuts so deep!

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May 25, 2023, 4:05 PM [ in reply to You didn't think this thread would turn into white knighting ]



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Yup, you’re welcome.***

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May 25, 2023, 4:12 PM



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Cole @ Beach Cole w/ Clemson Hat


Here’s one from me for thread jacking APM

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May 25, 2023, 4:24 PM

I thought you did t like that sort of thing?

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Where exactly did I thread jack?***

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May 25, 2023, 4:30 PM



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Cole @ Beach Cole w/ Clemson Hat


You know, that whole part where people were discussing

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May 25, 2023, 5:08 PM

Horrible plot lines then you jump in accusing them of just not liking gay people. I’ve never watched the show, so I’m just a humble observer.

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Guess you cannot read well.***

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May 25, 2023, 5:09 PM



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Cole @ Beach Cole w/ Clemson Hat


Can't believe I've only gotten 2 TUs for this all-day sucker

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May 25, 2023, 4:39 PM

of a thread.

I mean, this kept y'all going ALL DAY.

How 'bout throwin' some love at your homie?

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thank you soccerkrzy! XXOO***

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May 25, 2023, 4:44 PM



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Yet you're skipping over TU'ing me in this thread...


May 25, 2023, 5:33 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

-posted like beng

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Cole @ Beach Cole w/ Clemson Hat


...anyone watching Silo?***

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May 25, 2023, 4:59 PM



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