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were their lips moving?
May 2, 2022, 9:50 PM
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Wake people up on abortion?
May 2, 2022, 10:02 PM
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I dunno man. I think abortion more than any other issue has each side already at full freak, and the rest of those in the middle are likely to believe a state-by-state approach is the best place to land, which is where we were heading. The only aspect I see as being particularly explosive even given the entrenched sides is prosecuting women for going out of state for abortions, which should be more problematic for the pro-life, ostensibly limited government, crowd than it is.
I'm more concerned with the leak itself and the impact on the court, than the ruling.
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Re: Wake people up on abortion?
May 2, 2022, 11:06 PM
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Yeah, the big thing here is that the court just terminated its credibility. This changes everything, because it shreds the notion of a unanimously decided, settled law. Everything is going to go back on the table. The idea of precedence is now a quaint memory.
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uh, what?***
May 3, 2022, 8:06 AM
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Re: Wake people up on abortion?
May 3, 2022, 8:14 AM
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I would wager it was someone on the minority side (whether another justice or someone who worked there) who wanted to kick the hornets' early and violently.
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Politics? Religious? Current events?
May 3, 2022, 6:21 AM
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Lunge.
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This is shaping up to be a good day...
May 3, 2022, 8:20 AM
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To stay the #### out of P&R. Gonna get ugly over there.
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How long has it been since I involved myself in politics?
May 3, 2022, 9:27 AM
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I've had that many good days. Politics is a curse, blight on my soul. It's not as if anyone ever changed their minds. I swear, if I had the dedication to God that so many have to their political beliefs I'd be a much better man. You'll see much more faith in the politics forum than in the religion forum.
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I don't even look at the Religion forum.***
May 3, 2022, 10:14 AM
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I'm calling this fake news
May 3, 2022, 8:39 AM
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but it sure will get the professional shriekers stirred up.
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If you take abortion off the table, and couple that with the
May 3, 2022, 8:39 AM
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fact that we have an overall weak pandemic that leaves far too many people alive, it just seems we're really moving backward from the glorious post-apocalyptic world led by a lovably brutal warlord that I have envisioned for humanity. I guess all-out war is where I'll have to put my hopes now. Maybe something combining the nuclear and the biological to ensure that I have plenty of mutants for an army that will loyally lay down their puny lives to solidify my grip on this planet, yet still be strong enough to stave off the certain attack that will be coming from the Zeta Reticuli aliens.
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Well, I'd vote for you. Are you sticking with the Bleached
May 3, 2022, 9:22 AM
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Skull party or are you planning to splinter off?
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Heisman Winner [135570]
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BS PARTY FOREVER!!!
May 3, 2022, 10:14 AM
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Re: Big…if true: Profuscious is confused
May 3, 2022, 6:25 PM
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Roe v. Wade was never 'settled law' ... even though the SCOTUS of ~ 1973 affirmed R.v.W. by a 7 - 2 decision.
Ruth Bader Ginsberg was among those who saw the deep legal flaws in the R.v.W. ruling.
As posted elsewhere on TNet, the following are some excerpts from a Time Magazine article (Aug. 2018).
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Today, the idea that a judge’s views on abortion rights might be determining factor for his or her suitability for a seat on the Supreme Court is unsurprising. In particular, the landmark 1973 case Roe v. Wade is frequently referred to as a “litmus test” for a justice. So it might come as a surprise that, though she made history by endorsing abortion rights during her confirmation hearing, Ginsburg had well-known reservations about Roe.
Her views on abortion came up during her confirmation hearings in part due to a lecture she’d given earlier that year at New York University School of Law, in which she discussed the topic. At one point during her talk, she critiqued the Court for the structure of its decision in Roe v. Wade:
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Ginsburg said that she believed it would have been easier for the public to understand why the Constitution protected abortion rights if it the matter had been framed as one of equal protection rather than privacy. And in fact, there was a specific case she had in mind as one that should have driven the national conversation, instead of letting Roe carry that weight.
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She told the Senators that she “first thought long and hard” about abortion rights when, as a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), she took on Struck v. Secretary of Defense, a case that was on the Supreme Court’s calendar during the same term that Roe was decided. Susan Struck was an Air Force Captain who got pregnant while serving in Vietnam and sued the Air Force after it said she would have to either get an abortion at the base hospital or leave if she wanted to have the child. She told the Air Force that she didn’t want to get an abortion; she wanted to use the vacation days that she had saved up to give birth and then put the baby up for adoption because abortion violated her Roman Catholic faith.
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(*) The above is not to suggest that RBG would have voted to overturn R.v.W., but rather that she recognized the (large) flaws in R.v.W. as far as a judicial ruling.
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