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How long before NIL makes its way to high schoolers
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How long before NIL makes its way to high schoolers


Jul 7, 2021, 9:10 AM

And you have 14 and 15 year old kids getting pushed and abused by their greedy parents trying to get that pay day off their kids.

This isn’t just bad for sports this is bad for the country, the kids, everything in this day and age is rooted in greed and money. Mark my words NIL will result in the further destruction of families and the younger generation.

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Pure capitalism


Jul 7, 2021, 9:14 AM

and what is wrong with that?

No different than child celebrities, no?

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Re: Pure capitalism


Jul 7, 2021, 9:23 AM

I understand capitalism. But the issue here is using/exploiting minors (children) to fuel that capitalism. And that is wrong in my opinion. The capitalist we live in offers a free and fair market so that anyone can profit from it given the right circumstances. My issue is the decline of our morals and values over the last 20 years has increased exponentially leading to a mass unethical and immoral abuse of the capitalist system using it in such irresponsible ways that people simply do not care about the damage it may cause to innocent people or the consequences of their actions. Obviously this has and was always an issue throughout time but my gripe is today’s culture and norms being kind and moral has become uncool and selfish, self centered thinking is the popular trend.

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I think you're over thinking and projecting a bit.


Jul 7, 2021, 9:27 AM

Is a 14 yr old that works in a family restaurant being exploited? Is this act leading to the degredation of morals and values?

Put simply, it's a kid making money. How is it different than a hypothetical 16 yr old getting $500/month to promote a company?

I mean, I get that it's not traditional and all.

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I get your point. They do have child labor laws though


Jul 7, 2021, 9:45 AM [ in reply to Re: Pure capitalism ]

to protect the exploitation of childern. You still fail, in your argument, to explain how this is any different than child actors, for example. And this is nothing new.

I do agree on the selfishness thing though, take people refusing to get vaccinated or wear masks.

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Re: I get your point. They do have child labor laws though


Jul 7, 2021, 9:50 AM

It’s not. But look at most (not all) child actors. Many suffer from extreme depression, suicide, drug abuse, etc. This is my exact argument. That NIL will hurt more children than it will help. Much like childhood actors.

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Most child actors?


Jul 7, 2021, 9:54 AM

Bruh you're just making stuff up now. Some? Sure. Too many? More than 0 is too many, yes.

NIL will now lead to extreme depression, suicide, drug abuse? Just stop.

Full stop dumb.

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Re: Most child actors?


Jul 7, 2021, 10:16 AM

You serious? Come on bruh…you can’t be that blind.

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Lol, I mean there are well documented cases


Jul 7, 2021, 10:27 AM

but a man that can think for himself would only assume there are many many many more that don't have those issues but it's not reported on because no click bait.

Anything to support your theory that most child actors have all these issues?

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Re: Lol, I mean there are well documented cases


Jul 7, 2021, 11:07 AM

If you want to google it there’s a massive rabbit hole that will support that claim. Tons of interviews. It’s not worth my time to debate this topic with you anymore so it’s all good. I’m just saying it’s a bad thing in my opinion and will be dangerous.

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Re: I get your point. They do have child labor laws though


Jul 7, 2021, 7:03 PM [ in reply to I get your point. They do have child labor laws though ]

Look at many of those child actors today or those from years past. Many in their later years. have taken long hard falls. The kid that played Dennis the Menace was miserable as a kid because he was exploited by his family. Child actors have a high rate of drug abuse, addiction, social and anxiety disorders and a lot of problems associated with making lots of money and having so much at such a young age.

Working a part time job making spending money is much different from kids that have a chance of making hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars. IMO that is a lot different than a part time job that should teach kids responsibility, how to manage money and learn life lessons.

Try to image what you life would be like if you started making several times your current salary starting next week. Imagine yourself in a situation where you can do or buy most anything you want. Think of the control and power you have obtained just because of $$$$$. What is the first thing you would do with your new found wealth.??

I have done much research where people have inherited a lot of money, suddenly by circumstances came into much $$$$ or people who have won the mega millions lottery. One would most likely think these people would be financially set for life. It’s amazing where many are 10 to 15 years later. Look at all of the professional athletes that are broke after earning millions of dollars, many who won or inherited a lot of money spent it all or lost it through bad investments. You should do you own research to see what happened to these people who became wealthy so you want think I am blowing smoke.

Many may disagree with me but I believe $$$$$$$$ has changed DeShaun Watson. It’s been a gradual change but I believe he has let $$$ change who he truly is. I am in no way indicating he is guilty of any of the accusations against him. I am still in his corner, innocent until proven guilty. DW is not that same humble person who seemed to have a heart for God. The increase in money he could possibly earn from future NFL contracts is probably more in 1 year than if you combined most all TNetter’s combined. I know he has done some good things with his money. IMO he has become so what arrogant and I believe it’s because of the millions of dollars he now has. For many, money means power and control. Sometimes to much control.

I am curious as to how these kids ( college athletes ) and their families will handle becoming wealthy in such a short period of time.

I am all for people working earnestly and with Character and Honesty making a lot of money. But many of those who will benefit from the NIL rule may not appreciate what a hard days work is like. They are very fortunate and blessed by God with a talent to play a game they love and get wealthy will doing so. And don’t feed me that BS of them getting hit and injuries. They should be grateful everyday they were born with these athletic gifts and not with a handicap. These gifts they were born with is most likely going to allow them the opportunity to make a lot of money.

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Calm down.


Jul 7, 2021, 9:22 AM

The money a kid makes will to an extent be directly proportional to the work he puts in and the success he has on the field. Anyone looking for a payday will inevitably falter in those endeavors, so this perceived problem won't actually become a real one, because it will take care of itself. For our team, you KNOW Dabo will bring the hammer down on anyone who'd rather sell shirts than work. There may be a problem or two initially as everyone gets acclimated to things, but I don't see this being an issue long-term.

As for high schoolers, who the h3ll knows who they are? There is no profit in a name only known within hardcore recruiting circles. There are some exceptions of course, like the Manning kid, but 99.9% of high school athletes are not marketable because they haven't DONE anything. My only real concern is colleges buying recruits, but that's another thread.

"...NIL will result in the destruction of families and the younger generation."

Lol no it won't. Work = money, and if the former slips, so will the latter. You can let go of your pearls.

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Re: Calm down.


Jul 7, 2021, 9:33 AM

My point exactly. Give a 15 year old these days thousands of dollars for taking a picture….do you think he’s learning anything about “work”? No he’s learning easy fast money.

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You COMPLETELY missed my point.


Jul 7, 2021, 4:38 PM

I don't think you could have missed it any harder than you did.

Paying a kid thousands of dollars for a picture.
Question: why would anyone do that?
Answer: because the kid is incredibly skilled at a highly demanded entertainment activity, and he worked his a$$ off to get that way.

OF COURSE they're learning the value of work. Just because their work is different from yours doesn't mean it should be discounted.

I'll repeat myself: if a kid's work ethic slips because they're focused too much on NIL money and not enough on honing their craft, the thing that put them in a position to get NIL in the first place, guess what? They'll lose the opportunity to make money off their NIL. We'll see some good examples in the first year of this and they'll serve as a reminder to all the other kids: work or you don't get money. You know, just like the rest of the world. The problem will take care of itself.

You're really insulting the amount of work and effort these kids have put in to get themselves to a position where anyone would pay them money for playing a sport.

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So what....


Jul 7, 2021, 9:36 AM

if someone wants to buy a t-shirt with Joe/Suzie/gender neutral on it and they are playing HS whatever, what difference does that make to me? I can choose to buy it or not. Now college athletes can contract with a business and, for example, sign autographs for 3 hours and make money off their name/likeness, etc. The businesses will dictate the market price. If Mr. Deep pockets wants to pay player $500 a month for just being on the team, so what. Greedy parents or greedy bowl committees, what is the difference. If I have to watch one more bowl game where they show them handing out a $100,000 check to the little Sisters of the poor charity all the while bringing in millions to the bowl committee... it makes me sick. Even the Sugar Bowl that brings in millions gets money from the state of LA.

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Re: How long before NIL makes its way to high schoolers


Jul 7, 2021, 11:43 AM

We were already seeing that with all the kids who were making money being a "Youtuber." I think the highest paid Youtuber is some 10yo kid.

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Re: How long before NIL makes its way to high schoolers


Jul 7, 2021, 5:22 PM

5 star post RunJumpCatch! It will eventually make to high school, possibly travel sports teams, and it will destroy amateur sports as we know it. It’s has nothing to do with sports evoking with the times it all about greed, control and people who have a feel that life owes them something.

I agree that NIL is the tip of an iceberg that will tear the fabric that has held society together. NIL will divide locker rooms as well as teams. Wait until those line whose name you rarely hear stops blocking for the $5 million dollar RB or QB. Why risk your health so the RB, WB or WR’s can get their name in the paper along with their photographs.

When the have nots figure it all out then there will be a lot of hard feelings, jealousy, envy, resentment and the word Team will have little meaning. Money changes everything and everybody.

I am waiting on the first lawsuit from a fan whose photo appears in a game program, or possibly in a book written by a coach or player whose mentioned a person / fan by name in the book or is in a photo in the book to claim their NIL. Where will it stop. I am afraid as another TNetter posted that (we are headed down a slippery slope for which there is no return.)

A door of disaster has been opened that can no longer be closed.? Maybe my post can be a little dramatic but I am a student of history and human behavior. I have seen what $$$$$$$$$$$$$ has and can do to people, families, societies, governments, countries and so on. Just look at our politicians! Look what $$$$$$$$ has done to them.

These 3 letters will have significant historical meaning. They are NIL!

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Re: How long before NIL makes its way to high schoolers


Jul 7, 2021, 5:59 PM

I understand your concerns, but I don’t know if they’re relevant.

I’m quite certain there are tens of thousands of high schoolers that are already making big jack off of their social media platforms. Their revenue stream may not be tied to their athletic achievements, but not many highschoolers have an athletic brand beyond their own high school walls. Young kids today are making their brands is in other areas such as dance, comedy and other creative and ingenious ways to create a brand and catch an audience they can leverage to generate revenue. That’s going on right now today. I don’t see how adding athletic brands would be that big of a difference maker.

There is some young kid around 10 years old making millions of dollars on YouTube doing toy reviews.

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