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How can NCSU hold keys over WF and Us
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How can NCSU hold keys over WF and Us


Nov 14, 2021, 3:53 PM

In a 3 way tie? They did not beat Wake and will kot be the highest rated team when the dust settle, should they lose another.

It use to be 3 way tie goes to the highest rated, is ther some sort of divisional consideration that trumps their lose to WF. I would also mention home versus away, but the games that matter are all away. If 'Cuse or UNC beats them, then the 3 way is off the table. Which leaves point diferential. I don't think the ACC considers it a denominator.

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Re: How can NCSU hold keys over WF and Us


Nov 14, 2021, 4:13 PM

Regardless of how well the defense plays, I don't believe that our offense can score enough points to beat Wake Forest if the QB and OL play like they did against UConn. (unless a miracle happens).

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We Win Scenario


Nov 14, 2021, 4:41 PM

If we beat Wake and UNC beats Nancy State - we in?

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Re: We Win Scenario


Nov 14, 2021, 7:04 PM

Wake has to lose twice. If we beat Wake, but Wake beats BC, they are in with only one conference lost.

I thought if UNC beats NC State, then they have three conference losses and are then eliminated. If NC States wins out, they hold the tie breaker over us if we beat Wake.

Our odds are not impossible, but we have to win this weekend. The rest is not in our control.

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Re: How can NCSU hold keys over WF and Us


Nov 14, 2021, 4:45 PM

In a 3-way tie, it will come down to division record. Clemson and NC State will be 5-1, while WF will be 4-2. That will effectively "eliminate" WF from the tiebreaker, and it'll go back to head-to-head between Clemson and NCSU.

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Exactly. Here's the rules


Nov 14, 2021, 4:50 PM

Three-Team (or More) Team Tie
(Once a team is eliminated from the tie, the tie-breaker procedures restart for the remaining teams. If the three (or more) team tie can be reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker format will then be applied.)

1. Combined head-to-head win percentage among the tied teams.
2. Win percentage of the tied teams within the division.
3. Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall (divisional and non-divisional) Conference win percentage, and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken first to last, using the league’s tie-breaker policies.
4. Combined win percentage versus all common non-divisional opponents.
5. Overall win percentage versus non-divisional opponents.
6. Win percentage versus common non-divisional opponents based upon their order of finish (overall win percentage) and proceeding through other common non-divisional opponents based upon their divisional order of finish.
7. The tied team with the higher ranking by the Team Rating Score metric provided by SportSource Analytics following the conclusion of regular season games.
8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw as administered by the Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee.

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