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Gina Carano
Feb 11, 2021, 9:29 AM
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Gina Carano is a hero. Thank God there are a few people that will still speak up and speak common sense. Fck Disney and their shows. There has to be some way to fight back against these a-holes.
I absolutely support this statement (not written originally by her BTW):"Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…even by children. Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views," Neighbors were not the Jews biggest problem, but the point is the attitudes of the German people (like liberals here) were all changed, and guess what, they all believed that they all believed. The result, millions of women and children murdered, many by their former neighbors.
What is wrong with a post of a photo of a person wearing cloth masks to cover their face and head with the caption: "Meanwhile in California?” This over reaction is a fcking joke.
What is wrong with this: "Expecting everyone you encounter to agree with every belief or view you hold is f--king wild," This is the definition of the left. Watch TV today; look at your stupid social media accounts. Why T F is this woman being black-balled?
Ditto for this: "Jeff Epstein didn’t kill himself."
Maybe there were more posts Fox did not tell us about, but I doubt it.
At what point do reasonable people get off the liberal train? NBA will cancel the anthem, just wait. Lib response: it’s just the NBA so what? School systems cancel the pledge: Lib response: it’s just a few extreme school systems, I don’t care. Your own downtown is burned like Sherman went through there. Lib response: I live in the burbs, it won’t affect me. Your child or grandchild gets canceled, loses their job, black-balled from the rest of the junior socialist club and kills themselves. Is it time to get off yet? What is sad is that bad things will start to happen to liberals and they won’t even know it is a result of the policies they supported.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/gina-carano-backlash-social-media-posts-not-currently-employed-star-wars
https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/mandalorian-gina-carano-1234905589/
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Common sense? That's not having and posting political
Feb 11, 2021, 9:38 AM
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views on social media for millions to consume, while simultaneously trying to advance a career that has nothing to do with politics, but has everything to do with people buying your product.
Sorry, I shed no tears for idiots on social media, right or left.
In a polite society, and a religious one, with a nuclear family, and morals, and the rule of law, people considered it impolite to even speak politics (or religion) in social settings. Much less blast it to millions of people, or your friends, then to millions of people. Nope. You had to ask for a political opinion, and only then was it given, and on an individual basis.
Opinopns are like awholes. Everyone has one. And everyone else's stinks, except your own.
So why show your ###?
THAT is common sense.
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Disney can hire and fire who they want, it's their company.
Feb 11, 2021, 2:42 PM
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If they believe an employee's words could be bad for business, they have as much right to deal with the risk/reward of firing her as she has to deal with the risk/reward of speaking her mind on a media platform for millions to read.
In general, people need to stop using social media as a diary or journal...it is neither.
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Re: Gina Carano
Feb 11, 2021, 11:44 AM
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Mocking 'preferred pronouns' is cool. Insanity needs to be called out.
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Godwin’s law invoked***
Feb 11, 2021, 9:41 AM
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Re: Godwin’s law invoked***
Feb 11, 2021, 9:59 AM
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This consistent refusal to understand that Nazis are far-right wingers and Trump's tactics and persistent pushing of the Big Lie are very similar to what Hitler attempted are mind-boggling.
Hitler's gang were literally fake socialists. It's not like there's a shortage of real, genuine, evil left-winger regimes out there in history to choose from if you want an example. Stalin's Commies killed 30 million of their own people. Pol Pot's Khymer Rouge killed two million of their own people. The Chinese killed hundreds of thousands in their own purges and are even now imprisoning millions of ethnic Uygers in an attempt to indoctrinate the Islamic heritage out of them. There's not a lot to defend, about Communism.
But the Nazis were not effing real Socialists. They were the hardest of hard-right white nationalists out to purify the world of lesser races and crush anybody weak and undeserving underfoot because anybody who got under their boot deserved to be there and it was the duty of the strong to punish and rule over the weak because that's what real Aryans did.
Gina can take her victimhood and go @#%^ herself. There are just no parallels there and her knowledge of history is ridiculous, at best and this current Foxworld attempt to try to portray the left as Nazis is one of the most disgusting (and Nazi-like) things we've seen from them, and it's literally right out of Joseph Goebbel's misinformation playbook: keep pushing the lie until you make it true.
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Re: Godwin’s law invoked***
Feb 11, 2021, 10:51 AM
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People comparing trump to hitler are so f*cling stupid it’s hard to handle.
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Re: Godwin’s law invoked***
Feb 11, 2021, 12:13 PM
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People who fail to see the similarities - especially in regards to the all-out assault on truth - are worse.
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Re: Godwin’s law invoked***
Feb 11, 2021, 3:46 PM
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Be a little more dramatic will ya?
I guess Biden is the next coming of Hitler too then. He has excessively lied his entire career. Social media censored very damaging info to Biden and Hunter before the election.
Don’t forget about the 4 years of saying Russia and trump stole the election! Hitlerry anyone???
The media has conditioned you to think trump is e next coming of Hitler. I feel bad for you.
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Re: Godwin’s law invoked***
Feb 11, 2021, 12:15 PM
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Nazis were fake socialists.
They weren't actually on the same team, as Stalin found out the hard way after he and Hitler cut a deal to divide Poland between them in 1939.
Hitler wasn't actually interested in creating a classless worker's paradise. He wanted to exterminate the Slavs for the Master Race and take their land.
Try to keep up.
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I know chonky
Feb 11, 2021, 9:51 AM
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but still wood
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Re: I know chonky
Feb 11, 2021, 10:01 AM
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She is hot, even if she gets an "F" on her history exam.
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Hollywood stars often confuse fame with intelligence.***
Feb 11, 2021, 2:43 PM
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lolwut.
Feb 11, 2021, 10:02 AM
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Are you actually attempting to say that Republicans will be rounded up and exterminated like Jews? Because that's essentially what Carano said. Sorry, bro, but when your career is fundamentally tied to your popularity, such as actors, you better curate your image like your livelihood depends on it. Carano doesn't have to be a liberal to keep her job. She just had to keep from saying and doing stupid stuff that alienates her fans. When she no longer has fans, she no longer has a job.
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Re: lolwut.
Feb 11, 2021, 10:06 AM
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Especially when she is insanely wrong.
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If the basis for firing an actor was being ignorant.
Feb 11, 2021, 2:47 PM
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Hollywood would be empty. It's Disney's company, and they can do as they wish. That being said, I wonder if someone could sue a company based on equal opportunity/rights law if they are fired for a political difference.
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Re: Gina Carano
Feb 11, 2021, 10:31 AM
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Jesus, NC
YOU label and condemn people FAR more than I do and I think you would classify me as Leftist.
Whenever you or some of your reactionary friends get called out at all about your irrational positions do you respond with empirical evidence and rational thinking.
Oh no, you respond with defensive attacks or cry censorship. Talk about snowflakes.
After four years of the conspiracy President, the media is trying (albeit clumsily) to return to a world where facts are discernable from suspicions, innuendo, and hyperbole - where a reasonable debate can rise above irrational and unsupported bullyshitt.
I am not sure what is the best way to do all this but crying because people are not buying your bullyshit anymore ain't it.
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Re: Gina Carano
Feb 11, 2021, 10:50 AM
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Isn’t it funny that people call trump the “conspiracy president” when the left pushed a fake Russian collusion conspiracy for 4 years. Wow. 0 self awareness
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Re: Gina Carano
Feb 11, 2021, 11:09 AM
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You keep saying that but what the eff was fake about it?
The dude owed at least four hundred million dollars, and probably closer to a billion dollars, routed through Deutsche Bank, from still-as-yet-unnamed parties, that will undoubtedly turn out to be Russian oligarchs when the Manhattan DA finally compels Deutsche Bank to cough up those records.
The two bankers who handled those accounts (both Russian nationals) resigned and ran back to Russia right before Trump left office...at the end of December.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps-longtime-personal-bankers-resign-from-deutsche-bank-11608697069
Trump was absolutely bleeding money throughout the '90's. He lost more money than any other American during a 10-year-span. At one point he declared bankruptcy four different times, and defaulted on a nearly $45-million payment - to Deutsche Bank. Rather than pay it he sued the bank! Then all of a sudden, like magic, he somehow came up with a seemingly endless new source of new cash...strangely, fronted from...Deutsche Bank? Wut? (I too give hundreds of millions of dollars to somebody who's just stiffed me for $45 million! Of course, a closer look would tell you the new infusion came not from Deutsche Bank's public side, which he'd defaulted on and sued, but from shell companies, shadowy entities on their private side.)
Gosh, I wonder who those guys were?
As the New York Times investigation into Trump's taxes revealed, his loans were personally guaranteed, meaning his creditors absolutely had him in a financial hammerlock, which is the very definition of the word "compromised." Mueller just didn't have the authority to look in that direction. You may recall, also, Trump screeched like a little girl every time everybody went near his taxes.
The Dems were politicians and were thinking like politicians and were looking for some sort of Manchurian Candidate political conspiracy. Trump wasn't a politician. Trump was a dirty businessman and that's why the probe whiffed...and that's ultimately what history's going to tell us.
I can't believe everybody hasn't figured this out by now. It's not even all that complicated. Trump is not exactly Not Obvious about the way he rolls.
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Re: Gina Carano
Feb 11, 2021, 11:21 AM
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Hahahahaha you still believe it! Holy #### you are stupid and deranged.
Just look up the Steele dossier paid for by Hillary. You know how it was all fake and that started the hoax investigation into Trump.
You know the investigation that said there was 0 proof that trump colluded with Russia to steal the election.
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Re: Gina Carano
Feb 11, 2021, 3:19 PM
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They don't understand evidence. Hearsay to them is like a smoking gun video along with a confession.
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When does Kushner run to Israel...? (No extradition and all)***
Feb 12, 2021, 12:55 PM
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Re: Were the arrests fake too?
Feb 11, 2021, 11:48 AM
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Which of those crimes had to do with Russia collusion
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Re: Were the arrests fake too?
Feb 11, 2021, 11:50 AM
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From your own article. Did you read it?
“Mueller’s report, which he submitted to Attorney General William Barr on Friday, did not conclude that Trump or anyone involved in his campaign colluded with Russia”
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Is this 1960's China in the Cultural Revolution?
Feb 11, 2021, 2:58 PM
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What's with the name calling and accusations? Can we not have a civil discussion?
Seriously. What the ####.
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How long before anyone who voted conservative/republican
Feb 11, 2021, 10:38 AM
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is outed and fired from their jobs?
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Re: How long before anyone who voted conservative/republican
Feb 11, 2021, 10:49 AM
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Well, 74 million people did vote Republican last election, so best guess...
...it'll take awhile.
I dunno. You might wanna check with the owners of MyPillow or Koch Industries and see if they're planning on purging their Republicans if you're still concerned, though.
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If you say so.
Feb 11, 2021, 1:09 PM
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It's obviously not going to happen over night. So this woman was fired for posting words. Did I miss something? Was she at the capitol? Did she do something else?
In my view, this could snowball.
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Re: Gina Carano
Feb 11, 2021, 3:22 PM
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There you go.
This is the key point.
If Disney fired the leftist a-holes for posting political BS, I'd be okay with it. Have a clause in their contract - post about controversial topics and get fired.
But, it has already been decided by hollywood which side is always right (no pun intended).
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Haha you’re a moron. Disney did fire him.
Feb 12, 2021, 1:25 PM
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They rehired him eventually, but they did fire him. They’ll probably work with this lady again too, they just don’t want to be associated with her until it cools off. Polo got rid of Justin Thomas because of what he said, and it’s pretty much a guarantee they’re going to resign him after some time passes. Your whole “key point” about Disney not firing the “leftists” is false.
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Re: Haha you’re a moron. Disney did fire him.
Feb 12, 2021, 2:21 PM
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Yup.
I would hope so, unless she keeps doubling down on the White Republican Victimhood crap. The Jews in Hollywood are not going to forgive her if she keeps appropriating that Holocaust meme for that particular analogy. Carano had better back off and apologize on that, and real quick. She does, she should be forgiven. Because she's hawt, and has great bewbs, if a still somewhat wooden acting method, and I think Disney really would like to keep employing her. I know I'd like to keep looking at her, uhm, somewhat wooden acting method.
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Dis some BULLCH*T main!!! But, BUTTTTT, let me tell you,
Feb 11, 2021, 11:25 AM
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this isn't the end. It's not even the beginning of how the Woke Cancel Culture will run amok for a while until (hopefully) the elections of 2022. And that is ONLY if the COP knuckleheads can get their act together and reject Trump en masse. Otherwise, the Dems will remain in power and my advice to White people is to keep your head down and pray for this to pass. Otherwise, you WILL be cancelled.
And Gina was one of the best parts of Mando.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Lucasfilm!!!
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I don't think she should be written out or anything...
Feb 11, 2021, 11:27 AM
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but saying she's one of the best parts is like saying Sophia Coppola was one of the best actresses in Godfather III.
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Worst take I have seen in a while. BOOOOO!!! Cara Dune
Feb 11, 2021, 11:41 AM
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is awesome!
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The character is fine...
Feb 11, 2021, 12:20 PM
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the acting is crap.
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Cancel Culture isn't enforced by law or government, so I
Feb 11, 2021, 12:10 PM
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don't think it's correlated to who's in the White House or who has Congressional majorities. A whole bunch of it is stupid. There are also lines that can be crossed, too, as Carano found out. She caught flak for saying and posting stupid stuff, but didn't lose her job. But then she crossed the Holocaust line, and that's on her.
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The line is being moved further back day by day.
Feb 11, 2021, 1:10 PM
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At what point is cancel culture going to come after people who voted red?
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Re: The line is being moved further back day by day.
Feb 11, 2021, 1:16 PM
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God when did the GOP become such a bunch of fearful Karens determined to believe They Are The Real Victims Here?
Victimhood sits well on nobody.
Lordy.
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Thanks for your words of reassurance.
Feb 11, 2021, 1:22 PM
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The ever-growing cancel culture is something I thought I noticed. Glad I was proven wrong and all is well.
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Re: Thanks for your words of reassurance.
Feb 11, 2021, 1:36 PM
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Carano walked into a nest of snakes with a common argument that's going around Foxworld right now - see above - that the Nazis were actually Socialists. It's trendy and en vogue among certain kinds of conservative anti-intellectuals like Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro to make these kind of arguments, and then tie the lessons of history and literature into pretzels to negate them. It's also more than a little despicable.
Yes, the Nazis were technically called the "National Socialist Party". But the most defining attribute of the Nazis was their ability to baldface lie. Joseph Goebbels, the Reich's information Minister, himself coined the term "the Big Lie." The Nazis were actually a response to Socialist movements of the day, were kind of an anti-socialist movement based around the power of individual will, the opposite of the "greater good" ethos that dominates socialism. They just threw threw some Socialist riffs into their sales pitch because they knew it sounded good and made the harsh medicine go down easier.
So when she starts talking about how the Republicans are being treated like Jews prior to World War 2, when in reality the contempt Trump's crew shows for the truth reminds more than a few of Hitler's early days...well, the distortion of fact and history did not ring well.
That's what got Miss Carano "cancelled." There's a lot of Jews involved at every level with Hollywood...and trust me, they still very much remember their history even if she does not.
That kind of messing with truth and history freaks people out. It has a history. Ask the Jews.
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There are liberals who have made similar posts who haven't
Feb 11, 2021, 2:34 PM
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been canceled.
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Re: There are liberals who have made similar posts who haven't
Feb 11, 2021, 2:50 PM
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Not really.
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And like all of this, that's your opinion. People are being
Feb 11, 2021, 2:56 PM
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canceled for their opinions. What opinions are safe to post? What aren't Who determines what's safe/not safe to post? Where does it stop?
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Just as a PSA,
Feb 11, 2021, 1:27 PM
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if you work for a big company and want to keep your job, maybe try NOT tweeting that having your opinions criticized is akin to the Holocaust.
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Fixed your PSA
Feb 11, 2021, 3:24 PM
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if you work for a big company and are conservative and want to keep your job, maybe try NOT tweeting that having your opinions criticized is akin to the Holocaust.
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Until yesterday, did anybody know who Gina Carano was?
Feb 11, 2021, 3:13 PM
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Don't know her.
Don't feel bad for her.
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I liked her since Haywire.
Feb 11, 2021, 4:32 PM
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It's always good to see people do their own stunts.
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Re: She was in Deadpool***
Feb 12, 2021, 3:23 PM
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Which is now also Disney.
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Which means George Lucas is already editing her out of the
Feb 12, 2021, 3:32 PM
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reissues.
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Re: Gina Carano
Feb 11, 2021, 3:32 PM
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quozzel you are too wrapped up into the "proper" classification of all sides for all of history. Forget that for a moment.
Here is the parallel with pre WW2 Germany and the current environment surrounding the USA political/social scene.
The left has nearly co-opted the entire information ecosystem in the USA. If you don't believe this, quit reading. As a result, they (the left) are able to put forward a singular message - that of leftist-progressivism.
It is a fact, not an opinion, when the same message is repeated over and over (which is what happens when one side has singular control), it is believed - regardless of the content of the message.
Get that? REGARDLESS of the content of the message, it is believed.
This is what is happening in the USA and why there is a correlation between now and then. The educated society then was conned into believing information that was not true. This led to atrocities.
It's a simple concept and comparison, really. Don't over think it.
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Re: Gina Carano
Feb 11, 2021, 3:42 PM
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Again, not really.
You're in an insane echo chamber right now that's making you so loopy you basically have spyware coming out of your eyeballs. You sound like you eat Alex Jones for breakfast and spew out 8Kun for lunch with about ten helpings of "research" in between.
You are not well, man, and you are showing every sign of a severely indoctrinated mind. I hope you snap out of it before you alienate the people around you because I can guarantee you your behavior is causing you personal and professional stress right now.
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Re: Gina Carano
Feb 12, 2021, 8:03 AM
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Haha, I'm in your echo chamber. That's why I know what is going on and how libtarded everyone in there is.
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I read the quotes in the two linked articles. Is that why
Feb 11, 2021, 4:41 PM
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she was fired? That seems absurd to me. What am I missing? Do people think she was insulting Jewish people or calling someone a Nazi? Is it the Be/Boo/Bop or whatever in relation to the pronoun thing? Are we seriously at the point where that would get one fired? Expecting everyone you encounter to agree with you is f___ing wild? That can't be it. The Jeff Epstein thing can't be it.
What am I missing?
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Re: I read the quotes in the two linked articles. Is that why
Feb 12, 2021, 8:01 AM
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Yes, that's it.
But apparently she has a history of this sort of thing. But when "this" is what we see here, it's not that big of a deal in a reasonable person's opinion.
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Re: I read the quotes in the two linked articles. Is that why
Feb 12, 2021, 9:00 AM
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In in ideal world she could say whatever she'd like, but fame, unfortunately, is a microphone.
If Disney raises her star, they become complicit in boosting it...along with amplifying her very dangerous revisionist history. If you don't understand how a bunch of Jews in Hollywood would feel personally threatened by that I really don't know what else to say to you.
They just won't. Ever. Not on that issue.
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Yes, that’s what I mean. How would her comments threaten Jewish people?***
Feb 12, 2021, 9:12 AM
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Re: Yes, that’s what I mean. How would her comments threaten Jewish people?***
Feb 12, 2021, 10:49 AM
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Because they know it can happen again...and forgetting history is the easiest way to make it happen.
History is mankind's immune system. Revisionist history is immune disease. The second Carano started babbling this insane drek and misappropriating Holocaust history she was done in Hollywood. Like it or don't, but Jews have enormous clout in Hollywood and it's always going to be that way.
I've mentioned this a couple times, but my dad's side of the family ran from the Nazis in the '30's because of a farm-labor-union dispute and it's kind of personal for me too; when I see idiots saying stupid stuff about how Nazis were actually leftists I start wanting to punch them in the face. (The Nazis were savage towards unions and trade guilds, not exactly a trait of left-leaning regimes.) That crap traumatized my grandmom and she and her parents arrived in America not speaking a word of English. She also died of Alzheimer's and I remember watching her pace around in her bathrobe and babbling in nonsensical German. It was real hard to watch.
We were headed down some bad roads with Trump. And the best way to avoid winding up somewhere we didn't want to be was to remember where others messed up in the past. That's what history is.
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I would argue just the opposite.
Feb 12, 2021, 12:05 PM
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First, it appears from your response that your focus is on the Holocaust references, so we will focus on that. As always, correct me if I am wrong.
"Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…even by children. Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views,"
Is this inaccurate? I would argue that she is in fact reminding us of history. My understanding is that Jews were scapegoated in Germany for some time before concentration camps became a thing. Is that wrong? To her point, it's almost a required first step if you think you can get away with a genocide. First, you have to dehumanize and demonize your target to the rest of the population, I would think.
So, back to my question, how does a Jewish person read the above quote and become scared? What threat is implied? What slight toward the Jewish community? What support for any fascist or Nazi belief?
To your point, what about her comment is "revisionist history"? To get a little ahead of where this discussion normally goes, I'll go ahead and reject the argument that "Oh, I guess it's not big deal that she considers being told to wear a face covering to be the same as suffering the holocaust." because that is not at all what she said, and no one who isn't trying to simply get one in the "win" column could seriously make that argument.
Finally, thanks for sharing about your family history. I had not seen that before. I simply cannot imagine. When I was young (college) I was in DC on a semester program and all of the students went on a Holocaust Museum Tour. The gentleman who welcomed us to the museum told us that he had worked at a camp. The instructor paused and asked him if he just said he had worked at a camp and he simply said "yes". No one else said a word. To this day, I regret that we didn't spend at least the first couple hours asking this man more questions. We were young, a bit shocked, and weren't ready for the moment, I guess.
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There's probably a sensible middle position here
Feb 12, 2021, 10:10 AM
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between the crazies celebrating Carano's firing and the crazies saying that she's really got her head on straight.
Both of those extremes suggest a mental disorder.
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