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Hollywood has just completely run out of new ideas....
Jul 5, 2022, 9:34 PM
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creativity has shot the wad. Or maybe it's just that studios/producers can no longer gamble on a great novel or s c r i p t... they have to guarantee it's a "blockbuster" to get financial backing. In the last month, I've gone to see the Top Gun & Elvis movies. Haven't been to a movie theater in many years, but my GF's nephew wanted to go see these, so we went. They were both just OK. Biggest surprise was this Greenwood theater has numbered and reclining seats, that's a new one on me...
But watching all of the previews of upcoming movies... they're basically all the same. Superhero and comic book movies and CGI-generated horsechit. We looked at each other and said - Isn't that just like the previous preview? It was almost hard to tell when one ended and the other began. Thor, Toy Story 12, Minions VII, Black Adam, Jurassic Park 8, whatever. That's just the ones I remember. It's like every movie now just tries to "out weird" the others or reproduce a proven but tired formula.
We both agreed... not a single one of those movie previews looked even mildly interesting.
There's a reason neither of us has been inside a theater in years, except to take a young family member.
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Pro-tip:
Jul 5, 2022, 9:36 PM
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St. Vincent with Bill Murray.
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Just introduced lilmissgrouching to The Goonies tonight
Jul 5, 2022, 9:41 PM
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Might have been a little early since she’s 9…but she enjoyed. And has plan to teach her chunky brother the truffle shuffle
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Good dad doing good dad things.***
Jul 5, 2022, 9:44 PM
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"Where the Crawdad's Sing" comes out next week
Jul 5, 2022, 10:11 PM
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I think you're in the demographic for that.
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Yeah, whatever. I just remember going to the theater to see
Jul 5, 2022, 10:28 PM
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The Godfather, Goldfinger, The Graduate, French Connection, 2001, Dirty Dozen, Bonnie & Clyde, The Sting, Bullitt, Jaws, Star Wars, Dirty Harry, Deliverance, Cuckoo's Nest, Butch Cassidy, Blazing Saddles, and a gazillion more great movies. Where are those today?
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I'm slightly disappointed that one movie isn't on your list
Jul 5, 2022, 10:33 PM
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Fast Times at Ridgemont High. You could've watched Phoebe Cates getting out of the pool on the big screen and you didn't do it?
It's a weird time now. The Godfather, were it to come out today, would be a limited series on HBO Max. The theatres are going to die. I never really cared about the giant screen like I did about the sound you got in a theatre. I can now match the clarity and bass in my house.
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I refuse to go to a movie that is predominately
Jul 5, 2022, 10:29 PM
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Computer generated action….
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So you don’t watch any new action movies then?
Jul 5, 2022, 10:35 PM
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I’m not a fan of the superhero movies at all though.
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Or any movie? They all use CGI now.***
Jul 5, 2022, 10:36 PM
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I was impressed with Vecna on Stranger Things
Jul 5, 2022, 10:38 PM
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yeah, I know the background was CGI, but they actually spent 6 hours each day putting that costume on that actor playing Vecna and it looked great!
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Agree, but the moving tentacles were CGI
Jul 5, 2022, 10:55 PM
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Most movies enhance their shots with CGI now and the really good stuff is stuff you can't notice. David Fincher is a master at using CGI in a way where you can't tell.
Then there are things like The Mandalorian and The Batman (the newest one) which are using something more sophisticated to build sets. It's wild.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kQzfng264w
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The behind the scenes for Mandalorian on Disney+
Jul 6, 2022, 8:45 PM
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And they revealed the sound stage they were using that has the 360-degree dome of sync'ed LCD's, combined with traditional, practical set builds... mind blown.
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Re: Hollywood has just completely run out of new ideas....
Jul 5, 2022, 11:09 PM
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I learned some time ago that when the only thing a movie can brag about is the CGI, it's gonna suck.
Characters are where it's at. That's why good plays work, with small stages, minimal sets, and interesting stories and situations. All that other stuff can add to it, but you can't rely on it when the characters are weak and unmemorable.
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Check top-grossing movies of all time.
Jul 6, 2022, 6:23 AM
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They are doing what makes money. Sorry for the formatting, but here are the 50 movies I found with over a billion gross. Of these 50, a whopping 35 of them are action/adventure movies that are in some sort of series/franchise, including Top Gun. Of the remaining 15, I count 14 Disney cartoons or re-makes if said cartoons.
The only one that doesn't fit either category is Titanic.
I'm not complaining personally, because I actually like most of these movies. So I'm part of the massive target audience.
1 Avatar $2,847,397,339 2009
2 Avengers: Endgame $2,797,501,328 2019
3 Titanic $2,201,647,264 1997
4 Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens $2,069,521,700 2015
5 Avengers: Infinity War $2,048,359,754 2018
6 Spider-Man: No Way Home $1,901,232,550 2021
7 Jurassic World $1,671,537,444 2015
8 The Lion King $1,663,250,487 2019
9 The Avengers $1,518,815,515 2012
10 Furious 7 $1,515,341,399 2015
11 Frozen II $1,450,026,933 2019
12 Avengers: Age of Ultron $1,402,809,540 2015
13 Black Panther $1,347,597,973 2018
14 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 $1,342,359,942 2011
15 Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi $1,332,698,830 2017
16 Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom $1,310,466,296 2018
17 Frozen $1,281,508,100 2013
18 Beauty and the Beast $1,273,576,220 2017
19 Incredibles 2 $1,243,089,244 2018
20 The Fate of the Furious $1,236,005,118 2017
21 Iron Man 3 $1,214,811,252 2013
22 Minions $1,159,444,662 2015
23 Captain America: Civil War $1,153,337,496 2016
24 Aquaman $1,148,528,393 2018
25 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King $1,146,436,214 2003
26 Spider-Man: Far from Home $1,131,927,996 2019
27 Captain Marvel $1,128,462,972 2019
28 Transformers: Dark of the Moon $1,123,794,079 2011
29 Top Gun: Maverick $1,115,234,231 2022
30 Skyfall $1,108,569,499 2012
31 Transformers: Age of Extinction $1,104,054,072 2014
32 Jurassic Park $1,099,699,003 1993
33 The Dark Knight Rises $1,081,153,097 2012
34 Joker $1,074,445,730 2019
35 Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker $1,074,149,279 2019
36 Toy Story 4 $1,073,394,593 2019
37 Toy Story 3 $1,066,970,811 2010
38 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest $1,066,179,747 2006
39 The Lion King $1,063,611,805 1994
40 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story $1,056,057,720 2016
41 Aladdin $1,050,693,953 2019
42 Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides $1,045,713,802 2011
43 Despicable Me 3 $1,034,800,131 2017
44 Finding Dory $1,028,570,942 2016
45 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace $1,027,082,707 1999
46 Alice in Wonderland $1,025,468,216 2010
47 Zootopia $1,024,121,104 2016
48 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone $1,022,290,019 2001
49 The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey $1,017,030,651 2012
50 The Dark Knight $1,006,102,277 2008
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Wow.
Jul 6, 2022, 7:48 AM
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Not a single one of those did I or would I go to the theater to see. I've seen maybe a handful of those on your list because they were on TV at a moment when there was nothing else on that caught my attention or I was too lazy to change the channel. I would imagine that not a single one of those would make my top 10,000 or so movies to watch in any format (TV, theater, digital device, etc). I am definitely not among the great unwashed masses that Hollywood obviously markets its movies to.
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It cost like 25 cents to go see "Casablanca"
Jul 6, 2022, 8:18 AM
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and maybe 75 cents to go see "The Dirty Dozen". Around $2 to go see the original "Star Wars".
now it's $20 to go see the Dweebs or whatever those little yellow cartoon things are.
Dollar number comparisons make no sense. Of course new movies gross more money.
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Re: It cost like 25 cents to go see "Casablanca"
Jul 6, 2022, 8:23 AM
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I watched again 2 weeks ago. Loved Claude
Jul 6, 2022, 10:24 AM
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Rains as Louis.
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Those are real dollars driving decisions made today.
Jul 6, 2022, 10:30 AM
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It costs the same amount today to see the latest Oscar-winning dramas. Where are those on the list? They're not on there, because no one wants to see them.
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True, but as the old saying goes from years ago.....
Jul 6, 2022, 2:47 PM
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"the National Enquirer outsells the Wall Street Journal, and the Jerry Springer Show has higher ratings than 60 Minutes". And it seems Hollywood is now marketing only to the dumbed-down masses. No offense.
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Have you gone to the movies since the last time you took
Jul 6, 2022, 9:02 AM
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a Young Jooyner to the movies?
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The fact you thought Top Gun: Maverick was "just OK"...***
Jul 6, 2022, 8:12 AM
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...but you are biased, maybe, I think.***
Jul 6, 2022, 8:13 AM
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Super Hero movies were much better before CGI
Jul 6, 2022, 8:21 AM
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said absolutely nobody ever.
Just get a fucking GOD to play Thor, is it that Hard?
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I hate he's not coming to the New Japan Pro Wrestling event
Jul 6, 2022, 8:41 AM
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at the Grady Cole Center in Charlotte at the end of the month.
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uh huh... maybe you've heard of this thing called INFLATION?
Jul 6, 2022, 10:34 AM
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Here's the Top 100 All Time Movie Grosses, Adjusted For Inflation
1 1939 Gone with the Wind
2 1977 Star Wars
3 1965 The Sound of Music
4 1982 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
5 1997 Titanic
6 1956 The Ten Commandments
7 1975 Jaws
8 1965 Doctor Zhivago
9 1973 The Exorcist
10 1937 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
11 2015 Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
12 1961 One Hundred and One Dalmatians
13 1980 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
14 1959 Ben-Hur
15 2009 Avatar
16 2019 Avengers: Endgame
17 1983 Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi
18 1993 Jurassic Park
19 1999 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
20 1994 The Lion King
21 1973 The Sting
22 1981 Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark
23 1967 The Graduate
24 1941 Fantasia
25 1972 The Godfather
26 1994 Forrest Gump
27 1964 Mary Poppins
28 1978 Grease
29 2012 The Avengers
30 2015 Jurassic World
31 2018 Black Panther
32 1965 Thunderball
33 2008 The Dark Knight
34 1967 The Jungle Book
35 1959 Sleeping Beauty
36 2018 Avengers: Infinity War
37 1984 Ghostbusters
38 2004 Shrek 2
39 2002 Spider-Man
40 1969 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
41 1970 Love Story
42 1996 Independence Day
43 1990 Home Alone
44 2017 Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi
45 1940 Pinocchio
46 1963 Cleopatra
47 1984 Beverly Hills Cop
48 1964 Goldfinger
49 2018 Incredibles 2
50 1970 Airport
51 1973 American Graffiti
52 1953 The Robe
53 2006 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
54 1956 Around the World in 80 Days
55 1942 Bambi
56 1974 Blazing Saddles
57 1989 Batman
58 1945 The Bells of St. Mary's
59 2003 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
60 2003 Finding Nemo
61 1974 The Towering Inferno
62 2016 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
63 2019 The Lion King
64 1950 Cinderella
65 2004 Spider-Man 2
66 1964 My Fair Lady
67 1952 The Greatest Show on Earth
68 1978 National Lampoon's Animal House
69 2004 The Passion of the Christ
70 2005 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
71 1985 Back to the Future
72 2002 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
73 2012 The Dark Knight Rises
74 1999 The Sixth Sense
75 1978 Superman
76 1982 Tootsie
77 2017 Beauty and the Beast
78 1977 Smokey and the Bandit
79 2016 Finding Dory
80 2001 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
81 1961 West Side Story
82 1977 Close Encounters of the Third Kind
83 1955 Lady and the Tramp
84 1962 Lawrence of Arabia
85 1975 The Rocky Horror Picture Show
86 1976 Rocky
87 1946 The Best Years of Our Lives
88 2019 Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker
89 1972 The Poseidon Adventure
90 2001 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
91 1996 Twister
92 1997 Men in Black
93 1957 The Bridge on the River Kwai
94 2009 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
95 1963 It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World
96 1960 Swiss Family Robinson
97 1975 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
98 1970 MASH
99 1984 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
100 2002 Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones
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https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/top_lifetime_gross_adjusted/?adjust_gross_to=2019
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Check out Crimes of the Future from David Cronenberg
Jul 6, 2022, 10:40 AM
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and Spiderhead. Definitely some fresh ideas there.
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Couldn't agree more.***
Jul 6, 2022, 11:00 AM
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Here's my thing on remakes and sequels... once the cat is
Jul 6, 2022, 1:34 PM
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outta the bag, we all know what's coming and it gets very boring and repetitive. For, ex, the original Rocky was great, but after about Rocky 2, I didn't even bother. You already knew the story line... he's an underdog boxer, going up against an unbeatable opponent, blah blah blah. Nothing new. Same old, same old.
Or the original Jurassic Park in 1993. It was amazing, and we were just learning about DNA and the possibilities. It was somewhat plausible that they could pull off something like that in the future. The story line, acting & special effects were great. But all the sequels? Nah. Just some reiteration of the original... there will be dinosaurs, some folks will die, etc. Nothing new.
The only sequel I've ever seen that held it's weight was Godfather 2.
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Again, spot on.***
Jul 6, 2022, 3:27 PM
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