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Lord Perry's...GauntletX
Jul 30, 2015, 11:09 AM
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So NS's annual Gauntlet youth conference is this week down in Florida. I've seen all sorts of videos, pictures, and articles. What I want to discuss and get your opinion on is HOW these kids are being "saved".
You can watch it live below.
https://live.newspring.cc/?utm_source=newspring.cc&utm_medium=promo&utm_campaign=Gauntlet%20X
These youth are ushered into a massive arena, given pumped up talks and concerts....and then told if the "spirit" leads them to come to the alter to accept Jesus as their savior. Then per above they walk them all out to the ocean, and baptize them. Check, souls saved.
What are your thoughts on this sort of conversion/soul saving? Do you consider this real?
To me, this is just pressurized acceptance and NS wants to use it just to advertise numbers per above. Its just watered down Christianity. I think its sad that these kids are peer-pressured into salvation.
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Oculus Spirit [80977]
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Its a great business model.
Jul 30, 2015, 11:17 AM
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There's no real product, lots of revenue, and no income taxes.
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Oculus Spirit [79400]
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When you've got a money back guarantee, why not take
Jul 30, 2015, 11:19 AM
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the plunge?
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Re: When you've got a money back guarantee, why not take
Jul 30, 2015, 11:25 AM
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I completely agree with their intent. Its just sickening to me.
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Oculus Spirit [79400]
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I agree with their intent too, which is making money***
Jul 30, 2015, 11:28 AM
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: When you've got a money back guarantee, why not take
Jul 30, 2015, 11:36 AM
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> I completely agree with their intent. Its just sickening to me.
From a religious perspective, I'm not sure I understand your position. How can you personally tell which salvations are real vs fake? Is there some sort of on/off switch you can see that I'm missing?
Every religion says something different and even different sects within the same religion don't agree. I'm not sure how you believe any of it to be honest. Seems like the biggest factor determining your salvation is where you were born.
If you were born just a few hours north you would most likely be catholic and/or non-religious. In the middle east, you would probably be muslim. Not much of a choice in the matter it seems...
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Re: When you've got a money back guarantee, why not take
Jul 30, 2015, 11:36 AM
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I meant *non-religious perspective.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: Lord Perry's...GauntletX
Jul 30, 2015, 11:26 AM
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> These youth are ushered into a massive arena, given pumped up talks and concerts....and then told if the "spirit" leads them to come to the alter to accept Jesus as their savior. Then per above they walk them all out to the ocean, and baptize them. Check, souls saved.
Welcome to religion. What did you expect?
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Re: Lord Perry's...GauntletX
Jul 30, 2015, 5:49 PM
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All he's missing is the Kool-aid.
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110%er [9085]
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I luv my church session? Guess church trumps God***
Jul 30, 2015, 11:39 AM
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He's the L. Ron Hubbard of Anderson***
Jul 30, 2015, 4:39 PM
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: He's the L. Ron Hubbard of Anderson***
Jul 31, 2015, 12:21 PM
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What is he teaching that's so absurd compared to the rest of churches in town?
Here are his claims:
1. We are all sinners and need salvation
2. Only way to that salvation is Christ.
3. Turn your life over to Christ and you will be saved.
I um, don't really see the difference... do other Christian's just not want people getting saved at too fast of a rate? Or worried heaven my be crowded?
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Re: He's the L. Ron Hubbard of Anderson***
Jul 31, 2015, 12:35 PM
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I think many don't like him because of some things he has said and how his church operates, etc.
(But I could be wrong)
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: He's the L. Ron Hubbard of Anderson***
Jul 31, 2015, 12:44 PM
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So sort of like high school?
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Re: He's the L. Ron Hubbard of Anderson***
Jul 31, 2015, 12:51 PM
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I have no clue really. I've seen bits and pieces here and there on here in the past but I really didn't pay it a lot of attention
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