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Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
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Nov 28, 2022, 9:43 AM
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Dabo will fix the problems, he knows what he is doing. He's not perfect and he knows the mistakes that have been made.
This program will not slide into mediocrity like other top programs have done. If this is the worst it gets then sign me up. This team can still be 12-2 and finish in the top 10.
He knows the issues with the OC and the receivers. He also knows this team has gotten soft the last few years.
When you combine some recruiting misses and some bad coaching hires you are going to take a step back. Dabo will fix it.
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what makes you say that?? he knew the issues last year......
Nov 28, 2022, 9:44 AM
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and didn't fix them.
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Clemson went 9-3 in the regular season last year.
Nov 28, 2022, 10:20 AM
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Clemson went 10-2 this year, won the division, and is heading to the Conference championship game.
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So the issues are fixed then? Nothing needs corrected?
Nov 28, 2022, 12:18 PM
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You must be watching a different game than anyone not named Dabo or Streeter.
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Dabo has spoken
Nov 28, 2022, 9:45 AM
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"we don’t have to adjust anything.”
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
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Nov 28, 2022, 9:46 AM
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Two years same problem, unless he’s telling the world Cade is horrible without saying it.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 9:46 AM
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I mean... we heard these same arguments last year.
'If a down year is 10-3...'
'We had so many injuries, I'm sure the offense will explode next year...'
'I trust Dabo with the promote from within for coordinators...'
At a certain point, KNOWING there are issues is irrelevant if you're not taking active steps to FIX them. And the staff clearly aren't interested in changing QBs and I have little confidence that Streeter is getting fired in the offseason so, tell me what changes you see or expect that will fix this to prevent a third year of offensive awfulness?
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 9:47 AM
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Was this copied and pasted from last season?
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:27 PM
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He just replaced both of his coordinators, to include, the best defensive mind in the business. Cade needed to bulk up a bit and get comfortable in the pocket. Give the man a little time gzuz.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:40 PM
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He did replace coordinators, unfortunately, he didn’t replace them with other coordinators. Dabo has earned the right to fix his mistakes, I just don’t know if he views them as mistakes, or thinks they’ll work out in time.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 9:51 AM
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I used to think he knew the problems and would fix them. But this year has made me wonder. He is still refusing to acknowledge at least one glaring, obvious problem. If Clemson even had Furman’s QB they would be undefeated. But Dabo is no longer capable of admitting any error on his part. People change with great success and with age. In this case the change has been pretty dramatic.
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it didn't work last year and changes were needed...same
Nov 28, 2022, 9:52 AM
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thing this year
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Re: Shut up sounds a little aggressive for an opinion board
Nov 28, 2022, 9:53 AM
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Usually a fan of your posts. Just saying newnan® ...
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Re: Shut up sounds a little aggressive for an opinion board
Nov 28, 2022, 9:59 AM
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Agreed Soc.
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Re: Shut up sounds a little aggressive for an opinion board
Nov 28, 2022, 12:16 PM
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Maybe so. I guess I'm sick of seeing the coach who has taken Clemson to heights we used to dream about getting bashed.
Listening to some people you would think they had a 6-6 record.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 9:58 AM
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Yep sure looks like it?
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
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Nov 28, 2022, 10:03 AM
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I'll be honest, I'm losing confidence in Dabo. He used to hire great coaches that could develop players. It just doesn't feel that way anymore.
Lemanski Hall has had XT, KJ, Mascoll, and Murphy. None of them have lived up to their recruiting rankings, except maybe Murphy. Our DEs are going to be really bad next year, unless XT and Mascoll come back for a 6th season. Swint has good experience, but I've never seen him make a big play. Greg Williams and Cade Denhoff have minimal experience, but I doubt they are All-ACC caliber players. Zaire Patterson and Jaheim Lawson clearly aren't ready to contribute. We are going to have to rely on these talented true freshmen with a coach that clearly can't develop talent already.
Tyler Grisham has been a total disaster. But do we realistically believe that Dabo is going to fire him? Dabo has known Grisham since he was 5 years old. Dabo is the only coach that recruited him. Dabo is a father figure to him. Our WRs used to be so good. They are terrible now. We might have one of the worst WR cores in the ACC. They really are that bad. And next year is going to be just as bad. Our starting three will be Beaux, Antonio, and Randall. I like those 3. But after that, there's nothing. We'd be an injury or two away from Brannon Spector and Cole Turner starting at Clemson University, the supposed WRU.
CJ Spiller hasn't landed a RB recruit yet. It's just totally inexcusable at a program of Clemson's caliber. Back to back years of complete misses? That's embarrassing. This is a major problem that is close to rearing its ugly head. When Shipley, Mafah, and Pace are gone, we'll be replacing them with dudes that barely have any P5 offers.
Brandon Streeter has been terrible since he was hired. Deshaun and Trevor's best years, statistically, were their freshman years. They never progressed, but instead got by on their natural talent. Now to see what Streeter has done to DJ is criminal. Promoting him to OC after what our offense did in 2021 was so dumb. He hasn't been good at developing our QBs and his play-calling is worse than Tony's.
Honestly, I really hope we lose the next two games and finish 10-4. Dabo needs to feel pressure. That's the only way things will get better. 12-2 provides zero pressure. 12-2 ensures that Dabo makes zero changes.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 10:12 AM
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When Grisham patted a WR on the helmet after a terrible drop I almost barfed in the stands.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 10:31 AM
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Seeing what Grisham has done to EJ Williams makes me want to barf. That dude has become unplayable. And he showed so much promise his freshman season. It's crazy to see how bad he is now.
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Re: I don't see Mickey Conn listed in there. He should be.***
Nov 28, 2022, 10:30 AM
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I don't think Mickey has been that bad. K'Von and Tanner got drafted. Nolan is in the NFL. Mukuba was a freshman All-American. Mickens and Phillips have developed well based off their recruiting rankings. I would like to see him do a better job at recruiting though.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 10:55 AM
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"Tyler Grisham has been a total disaster. But do we realistically believe that Dabo is going to fire him? Dabo has known Grisham since he was 5 years old. Dabo is the only coach that recruited him. Dabo is a father figure to him. Our WRs used to be so good. They are terrible now. We might have one of the worst WR cores in the ACC. They really are that bad. And next year is going to be just as bad. Our starting three will be Beaux, Antonio, and Randall. I like those 3. But after that, there's nothing. We'd be an injury or two away from Brannon Spector and Cole Turner starting at Clemson University, the supposed WRU."
No truer observation has been made. Grisham is an absolute disaster. You failed to mention he only offered Antonio late after others decided elsewhere. And he turned out to be our best WR. Besides the lack of development, he much like Spiller, continues to either miss in recruiting or have just straight up terrible evaluations on these guys.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 11:25 AM
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I'm not sure what else Dabo needs to see with him. 3 years is plenty of enough time to realize that's Grisham isn't cut out for this job. Seeing the lack of development from Ngata, Ladson, Spector, EJ, and Ajou is stunning.
And then the recruiting... yikes
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:37 PM
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Not sure if people don’t realize or are ignoring it. Grisham is also the recruiting coordinator.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 10:04 AM
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The evidence points towards the contrary, my friend.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 10:05 AM
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I agree with you Newnan. Dabo had to replace a lot of coaches last year including both coordinators. That is a big change and I think he will make the proper adjustments this off season. The offense did improve, but not to the level we hoped. If he thinks Cade or Vizzina give us the best chance to win he will play them. It is frustrating to watch parts of our offense, but I have no doubt Dabo will correct it. He always has.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 10:11 AM
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Really? Please enlighten us on what changes Dabo has made over the past 2 seasons that supports this position that he’ll get all this fixed in a time frame that stops the slide from the top tier of elite programs. Not even trying to be a smart A here, genuinely interested to hear what makes you so confident in our coaches right now.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 10:24 AM
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Not saying he made any changes last year. I think he had his hands full filling all the spots with BV and TE plus the coaches & analyst they took with them. Dabo has historically made the changes necessary replacing Napier with Morris, Steele with BV, even Morris with Jeff Scott primarily & TE. Kelly Bryant with TL. I think Nick Eason was a great hire and an upgrade. We'll see what changes he makes this year whether Grish, Streeter, DJ or who. You can doubt Dabo if you want, but IMHO he will make changes.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 11:16 AM
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Bringing in Nick Eason was good. Like that, appreciate the reminder. The comment about Dabo having his hands full replacing both coordinators is interesting. He kinda filled his own hands by hiring both internal guys who hadn’t been coordinators yet, right? Why not bring in at least one seasoned coordinator who brings more to the table on day 1? Because they’re not Clemson men? There are good coaches and people out there who can help us win and add to Clemson. Venables wasn’t a Clemson man when he was hired but I feel comfortable saying he became one in his tenure here.
Please understand, I don’t want to doubt Dabo. There’s zero fun about seeing someone who led our program to amazing heights now fielding questions in a defensive way. It’s absolutely painful watching him back DJ to the end of the earth and wondering what that does to the current team and recruiting. I’d much rather be happy than right here.
My larger concern is if Dabo is making changes, it’s at a pace that worked historically but does not now. College football, as a sport, moves way faster now with kids being able to up and transfer multiple times. We’ll see what happens in this off-season but if the only change next year is QB1, I don’t believe that will be enough to reverse course on some of these declining trends. Lot of fans want that to be enough because it’s simple (just put in Cade) but I see far more that needs fixing than any one QB can fix.
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Dabo has got to adapt
Nov 28, 2022, 10:12 AM
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Yes Dabo has done amazing things at Clemson and I say we are blessed to have him here. But he needs to adapt to the changing world of college football. NIL and the transfer portal have changed the way college football is done. Dabo refuses to use the transfer portal. However he has just lost four games to teams with a transfer QB. (LSU, OSU, UGA, and UofSC)
And Dabo himself has changed on his hiring philosophy. Promote from within was not his philosophy ten years ago. Morris and Venables were outside hires that I think worked out pretty good. In house promotions can work but it has to be the right timing. Anyway, I definitely hope Dabo stays at Clemson for a long time, but he needs to adapt.
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Funny how he hasn’t addressed it since TL was here…
Nov 28, 2022, 10:31 AM
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The slide into mediocrity on the offense side started after DW4 left. Kelly Bryant not developed. TL never progressed after his freshman year. We would have had another natty if the O coaching was actually progressing back then.
See, a lot of fans fail to realize when the decline started. It started around the time TL class came in. When we lost to LSU in that natty game, it was because our talented offense was coached poorly. The play calling was too conservative. You need to be able to score in today’s college football because D alone won’t win you a natty.
That was when I knew we were slipping.
Saban knows you must keep evolving and turning over staff to get fresh blood in. You need hungry coaches and fresh ideas.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 10:39 AM
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Who’s starting in the Championship game - ‘nuff said?
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 10:40 AM
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I thought the same way for awhile…..not anymore!
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 11:25 AM
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I love Dabo but nothing he has done lately gives me any optimism about any changes. We made a lot of mistakes Sat and I had made peace with it, but after I heard the excuses for DJ from him and Streeter my mouth dropped. I for one thought he expected better. No way we should have lost that game. DJ attempting 26 passes will get you beat more times than not. Beyond frustrated with naming him the starter for this game. I was behind him for much of the year because I thought as the season went on he would get better. Dang was I wrong. If anything he has regressed.
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Re: Shut up. Dabo knows what he is doing.
Nov 28, 2022, 12:21 PM
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That clearly is not the case. We would be a better team with no QB at all than with DJU starting. I am fine with Wildcat to Shipley.
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He’s had 2 years to fix DJ.***
Nov 28, 2022, 12:39 PM
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