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I remember when M. Bryant was leaving for the NFL. I was
Jul 27, 2015, 3:46 PM
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also one of the doubters who didn't think that was a good move on his part. So far, I'm glad he has proven me wrong. Go get them MB.
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Re: I remember when M. Bryant was leaving for the NFL. I was
Jul 27, 2015, 3:54 PM
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I still don't like the decision but now it is for personal reasons.
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Agree.
Jul 27, 2015, 3:56 PM
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Honestly, I didn't think he had the work ethic to do what he's done. I'm really glad to have been wrong.
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It was a bad move and it'll cost him forever...
Jul 27, 2015, 4:15 PM
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The fact that Tay is playing well doesn't make it a good decision. He got drafted in the fourth round and he's getting fourth round money. Regardless of how well he plays he's ineligible for free agency for at least three years (conditional free agent) and up to four (unrestricted free agent) before the Steelers have to worry about any other team making him a better offer. He can outplay any of the receivers drafted ahead of him and still be paid less for 3-4 years. He absolutely has first round talent and, assuming he had Mike Williams type numbers (Mike took over Tay's position), then there's no doubt he'd have been a first rounder this past draft.
If we assume Tay plays 12 years in the pros then he may have just threw away a quarter of his potential career earnings -- what a first rounder as opposed to a fourth rounder would be earning -- because he was impatient... because he made a bad decision. Years and dollars he'll never get back. He sold his talent cheap; a tremendous asset for pennies on the dollar. Yes, he is getting paid but not nearly what his ability is worth.
Nuk made a good decision. Sammy made a good decision. Tay, sadly, did not.
Just my opinion,
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Re: It was a bad move and it'll cost him forever...
Jul 27, 2015, 4:58 PM
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The most important thing you said was "in my opinion".
You can never be in someone's head and understand the reason they make decisions. You also don't know his family situation, his whole contract, etc. He made the best decision for himself, not the Clemson fan base. And like everyone has said in posts before, he is proving he made a good decision.
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He wanted to get paid & he's getting less than he's worth...
Jul 27, 2015, 5:54 PM
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Tay wanted to get paid and he's getting paid less than he's worth. THAT is my opinion and I'm pretty sure that's Tay's opinion as well. I'm not angry with Tay and I'm not insulting him. The point just needs to be made that he cost himself millions of dollars by leaving early. His success just means the team that drafted him will, for years, reap the rewards of this decision. Nuk and Sammy left early after establishing themselves as top picks. Tay got picked in the fourth round solely on potential and while it's been a great deal for the Steelers it's not so great for him. They are under no obligation to pay him more than a fourth round pick for four years. Maybe they'll renegotiate at some point but maybe not. It's possible Tay will end up with a career-ending injury and never get the big contract his talent deserved. We don't know. I hope the best for him but his decision has put him in a poor fiscal position.
I don't know his situation as to why he left early -- it's been stated rather often that he was primarily just sick of school -- but it doesn't matter. Selling a new Ferrari at the same price as a new Toyota because you could use the money now doesn't make going through with that transaction a good decision. Tay gave up a lot of money that he'll never get back. In the short careers of most NFL players that's a gross financial mistake. Maybe it's one he can live with but it's still a mistake.
Q.E.D.
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any half rate financial advisor would have given MB the same advice
Jul 27, 2015, 6:23 PM
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and that's because it is that plain and simple.
This isn't an "opinion" - it's fact and money and present value and career planning 101.
Any person on here who makes the excuse "that it was his time" simply fails to understand the immaturity it took to make that decision.
You are correct, he's given away nearly 25% of his total career earnings possibly, and no one on this board would ever defend any other person in any other profession for doing that.
MB is going to be a father his whole life, and now his ability to do things for his children is reduced whether he likes it or not. That ain't cool.
MB didn't want to put his effort into being a great collegian - and the first thing Big Ben told him in Pittsburgh was that he wasn't working like a professional needed to. So what did MB gain? Like you said - he's working at his craft just as hard as a 1st rounder but for 4th round money.
The simply truth however is that some kids just won't ever get it until they do it wrong - and when you've got Sammy Watkins showing you how it's done and you still don't get it, well,
MB was just going to do "what he wanted no matter what".
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Re: He wanted to get paid & he's getting less than he's worth...
Jul 27, 2015, 8:27 PM
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How do you know that? It's not guaranteed that he would have came back and been healthy, there are all kinds of things to account for. Which is what he did, made a decision, drafted by a great organization in a scheme that fits him perfectly, and now he is balling.
I'm pretty sure that next contract will account for all of that money you think he lost. I see what you are saying, I just believe for Tay's situation, him not wanting to go to school, and being able to be drafted at all instead of being a free agent, was a smart decision for him
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He made the right decision for a bunch of reasons
Jul 27, 2015, 6:08 PM
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He could've very easily had what happened to Tajh and James Davis happen to him, where he actually lost draft stock for some reason. He could've also had a career delaying or career ending injury during his senior season and never gotten to the pros. The average career of an NFL football player is about 3.3 years, and in leaving college a year early he probably added a year to his money earning football career.
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Re: I remember when M. Bryant was leaving for the NFL. I was
Jul 27, 2015, 4:17 PM
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I also thought it was a bad move. As far as a money difference, it was a terrible move still. He could have made millions more just to play one more season of college FB!!!
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Only he can say whether it was the right move for him,
Jul 27, 2015, 4:29 PM
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at that particular point in time. If he has no regrets, then it was, as a matter of fact, the right move. Maybe he could have made more money by staying (maybe not), but there is a lot more to it than money. It sure looks to me like it's turned out well, and I seriously doubt he regards leaving as a mistake at this point. I say great for him.
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Re: Only he can say whether it was the right move for him,
Jul 27, 2015, 8:02 PM
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So do I, I think it's great for him, and hopefully he will be a pro bowl receiver in the next couple of seasons. He is a Clemson Tiger, and I love bragging about how good our guys are doing in the NFL.
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I was highly confident of MB's success in NFL & recvd
Jul 27, 2015, 9:16 PM
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quite a few thumbs-down as a result. Appreciate your honesty, as I've certainly been wrong on other situations. It is mind-boggling to see Nuk and Martavis outperforming and outranking Sammy in many Fantasy rankings. Same thing for Ellington and CJ. No douby CJ and Sammy have been damaged by being drafted by Bills. Hopefully, CJ will be resurrected with Drew Brees this year and somehow the Bills will get some average QB play to benefit Sammy. I believe Tyrod Taylor is a better QB option for Buffalo this year than EJ Manuel who seems to be a nice guy without the skill sets.
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