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New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer
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New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer


Apr 28, 2017, 10:06 AM

 
Clemson defensive back to transfer

Senior defensive back Korrin Wiggins has been given his release by head coach Dabo Swinney and will transfer to another school, TigerNet learned Friday.
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Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer


Apr 28, 2017, 10:06 AM

Well sh*t

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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." - Abraham Lincoln


Yup...


Apr 28, 2017, 11:05 AM

I thought he was the most impressive back at spring game. Very disappointing

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I want to see the guy passing him on depth***


Apr 28, 2017, 3:26 PM



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Good luck Korrin!***


Apr 28, 2017, 10:08 AM



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Re: Good luck Korrin!***


Apr 28, 2017, 11:10 AM

Wishing Korrin all the best. We appreciate all the hard work and part he's played in Clemson's success. He's leaving with that valuable degree in hand. I think it was a helpful thing for the coaches to let him know that he's? being passed in playing opportunities and to be seen he needs to do his grad work at another school. In other words, best for his future opportunities.

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Good luck!***


Apr 28, 2017, 10:09 AM



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"We establish no religion in this country, we mandate no belief. Nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate." ~Ronald Reagan


So our staff basically told him he wasn't part of the plan?


Apr 28, 2017, 10:09 AM

Meaning switching him to another position or something? I don't get it. Doesn't sound like our staff would tell him they weren't going to use him. Would they? The article is a little confusing.

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I think it means the coaches basically told him he was


Apr 28, 2017, 10:11 AM

getting passed on the depth chart and to not expect much playing time.

he graduates in MAY. they are helping him out by being honest.

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BINGO***


Apr 28, 2017, 11:18 AM



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Wouldn' t he at least be 2nd team. I mean we can't afford to


Apr 28, 2017, 12:20 PM [ in reply to I think it means the coaches basically told him he was ]

be sending people packing with his ability just because they are not starting. And no, I don't think they did it to do him a favor. I think its more like he complained about not being first team, the confirmed he was not first team and he decided to walk. That is really bad on his part if that's the way it played out. Bad on the staff's part if it played out the way you suggest. Why would any staff do that? Every staff would be ending their depth packing in order to "do them a favor" if that was the case.

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Re: Wouldn' t he at least be 2nd team. I mean we can't afford to


Apr 28, 2017, 12:26 PM

doing a favor - is being honest with info and depth chart expectations. surely it's his decision to try and gain more playing time his senior year.

I have a LOT of faith in thinking our coaches are honest with the team and want them to best they can be. I seriously doubt we ran him off - that's not what I'm saying at all.

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Assume he was told he wasn't 2nd


Apr 28, 2017, 1:03 PM [ in reply to Wouldn' t he at least be 2nd team. I mean we can't afford to ]

team either with Smith, Muse, Simmons, and Johnson.

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Re: Wouldn' t he at least be 2nd team. I mean we can't afford to


Apr 28, 2017, 5:02 PM [ in reply to Wouldn' t he at least be 2nd team. I mean we can't afford to ]

I wouldn't be surprised if there's more to it than meets the eye.

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Re: So our staff basically told him he wasn't part of the plan?


Apr 28, 2017, 10:29 AM [ in reply to So our staff basically told him he wasn't part of the plan? ]

I was a little confused as well. It doesn't sound like they would say he "wasn't part of the plan" if their plan was to keep him as a backup. One or two injuries and you're right back in it. That's still very much part of the plan.

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Re: So our staff basically told him he wasn't part of the plan?


Apr 28, 2017, 10:29 AM [ in reply to So our staff basically told him he wasn't part of the plan? ]

Agree, confusing!!!

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Hope he does well. But how can a player not know


Apr 28, 2017, 10:10 AM

the ins and outs of transferring and what the coaches can and can't dictate. Why would it be surprising to think he can go play for another team on the schedule?

Hope it all works out well for him.

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Wow - hate to hear that.


Apr 28, 2017, 10:11 AM

The good thing is, when a guy as good as Wiggins struggles for PT, you know you're loaded. Good luck Korrin!

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That was my second thought on it....***


Apr 28, 2017, 10:12 AM



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Guessing he wants to go to WF ?


Apr 28, 2017, 10:11 AM

Otherwise, why is he hung up on the school limitations ?

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Re: Guessing he wants to go to WF ?


Apr 28, 2017, 10:13 AM

That or Nc St. guess we'll see how this plays out though

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Re: Guessing he wants to go to WF ?


Apr 28, 2017, 10:18 AM

he'd start at duke, unc, wake or ncsu and they are all within an hour from Durham.

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Re: Guessing he wants to go to WF ?


Apr 28, 2017, 12:20 PM

We should never allow him to transfer to another ACC team.

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Re: Guessing he wants to go to WF ?


Apr 28, 2017, 10:37 AM [ in reply to Re: Guessing he wants to go to WF ? ]

I can tell you how it won't work out. If Dabo told him that he can't go play for any team on our schedule, we won't see him playing for any of these teams, period!!!

http://www.tigernet.com/clemson-football-schedule

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As a grad transfer I didn't think he needed approval?***


Apr 28, 2017, 11:08 AM



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Re: Guessing he wants to go to WF ?


Apr 28, 2017, 11:25 AM [ in reply to Re: Guessing he wants to go to WF ? ]

Duke and UNC are not on our schedule.

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NC State would be the most worrisome***


Apr 28, 2017, 11:43 AM



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Wishing you great success at your new school. Thanks


Apr 28, 2017, 10:12 AM

for all the things you have done to bring us much success in the football program.

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Apr 28, 2017, 10:16 AM

Man this blows. We get a walk on for a year and no extra scholarships. Sucks

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Good luck to him and real shame he got hurt. Before his


Apr 28, 2017, 10:17 AM

injury, he was looking like he was going to be a force.

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Re: Good luck to him and real shame he got hurt. Before his


Apr 28, 2017, 11:23 AM

Can't blame the injury for a fall off in production, see DW4 after injury, he never looked back bc he believe in the process. Blame Korrin for allowing his mental state to suffer through his ACL injury also. It happens to athletes all around the country but, the players that has a strong drive for not allowing an injury to effect how good they're going to be after reconstructive surgery. They worked through the pain until they no longer noticed any pain. They have accepted the recovery process that they believe made them stronger and better than before. They believed in the healing process, DW4 did, and a lot of other players have and are doing well in the NFL... Everybody please keep in mind that under HC Dabo Swinney, he will only accept your best as the standard, and he will only accept his coaches and players to be All IN everyday All The Time!!!

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No, I'm not going to blame Korrin


Apr 28, 2017, 11:26 AM

for his recovery. And how do you have any idea what went into his recovery process? How do you know what pain he was in or is currently in when he plays? People heal differently and it's clear that he was just not the same player after the injury. I wish him luck wherever he plays next.

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You are correct ...should have read it before posting mine****


Apr 28, 2017, 5:46 PM



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I'm sorry, but you have no idea if that was the case. He


Apr 28, 2017, 5:45 PM [ in reply to Re: Good luck to him and real shame he got hurt. Before his ]

have recovered completely and just not be able to replace players who are better. Or he still may have not gotten completely over his injury. Everyone heals at different rates and to compare him to Watson and his recovery is not fair. How long has it taken Choice to completely get over his injury?

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Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer


Apr 28, 2017, 10:23 AM

Good luck Kirin and thank you for playing for our Tigers!

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We keep getting better & better everyday, in every way!
“The only disability is a bad Attitude” Dabo Swinney!!
Let’s Go Tigers!


Hmm...Isn't SC on Clemson's 2017 schedule?***


Apr 28, 2017, 10:25 AM



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Re: Hmm...Isn't SC on Clemson's 2017 schedule?***


Apr 28, 2017, 10:28 AM

can never put enough emphasis on them not being able to play for the coots...simply for the kids best interest.

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Re: Hmm...Isn't SC on Clemson's 2017 schedule?***


Apr 28, 2017, 10:28 AM [ in reply to Hmm...Isn't SC on Clemson's 2017 schedule?*** ]

My thoughts exactly. Maybe the staff wanted to improve the strength of schedule by adding Citadel.

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Re: Hmm...Isn't SC on Clemson's 2017 schedule?***


Apr 28, 2017, 10:29 AM [ in reply to Hmm...Isn't SC on Clemson's 2017 schedule?*** ]

They're not really a "team". That's how I took it

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Wake, Duke or NC State would be all better options for him....


Apr 28, 2017, 10:49 AM [ in reply to Hmm...Isn't SC on Clemson's 2017 schedule?*** ]

Academically and athletically, all three are better programs compared to the University of Second Choice.




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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Wake, NC State and usc aren't options***


Apr 28, 2017, 1:25 PM



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Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer


Apr 28, 2017, 10:32 AM

Hoping he goes to Duke to play under Coach Cut. Coach Cut is good man and good coach.

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Apr 28, 2017, 10:36 AM

Has he a shot at the draft next year? If so, I understand his motivation to show is talent his last year. Hate to lose him, but it will free up a scholarship. Luck and nest wishes Korrin.

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Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer


Apr 28, 2017, 10:55 AM

How does this free up a ship

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Scout team promotion...? Don't know, but seems possible.***


Apr 28, 2017, 10:58 AM



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Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer


Apr 28, 2017, 10:55 AM

Kind of shi%%y on CU's part, IMO. I know I'll be in the minority here but these schools should never be able to dictate to these kids where they can or can't go. Glad he's getting his degree, he'll always be a Tiger and it's really unfortunate he was injured. If he's getting passed over, fine, let him go play wherever he wants. I just don't agree with this and never have with any school. I guess this is the ugly side of success.

Best of luck to you Korrin and thank you for being a TIGER!

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Apr 28, 2017, 10:59 AM

Would you want a school that you will be playing to have your playbook?

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Details...details.***


Apr 28, 2017, 11:01 AM



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Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer


Apr 28, 2017, 11:10 AM [ in reply to Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer ]

Irrelevant IMO...these guys watch so much film and have so many assistants breaking things down they know how many gulps of gatorade these kids take on the side line. It's just a matter of execution. Yeah, it could help a little but hey if you're making a couple million as a DC and assistant you've got the time and resources to switch up your looks and coverages. I doubt Wiggins would be the type to be that guy to spill his guts, maybe I'm wrong. I just don't agree with telling a guy that may have just one year left, who came to your school away from his family, put in the work, is told he is no longer part of the plan, wants to play closer to home, NO you can't do that.

Like I said, I'm in the minority here. Maybe there's more to the story we're not privy to.

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Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer


Apr 28, 2017, 11:42 AM

Hungry, I have been a dedicated hard core Clemson Tiger fan for 54 years without ever faltering or second guessing my fan hood for our Clemson Tigers. Here is what I'm getting at, I want your trust bc I have some prime ocean front property right outside of Phoenix AZ. I'm offering you this prime real estate for well under fare market price. ( I doubt Wiggins would be the type to be that guy to spill his guts) Just like I'm not the type of guy to sell you desert sand for prime ocean front property.;) ;) ;)

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Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer


Apr 28, 2017, 11:50 AM

I'll take it but no more than a nickel over a million. Touche my friend.

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So naive...how cute!***


Apr 28, 2017, 1:39 PM [ in reply to Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer ]



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I'm sure it's a play calling issue...


Apr 28, 2017, 11:01 AM [ in reply to Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer ]

Would be a huge advantage if he was telling the OC of his new team what blitz they were about to run.

If he hadn't spent all spring at Clemson it would probably be a non-issue.

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I think you are not looking at it right.


Apr 28, 2017, 12:35 PM [ in reply to Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer ]

We could have been less than honest and kept him on our roster just in case we needed him. By being up front with him about the depth chart it gives him a chance to get more playing time elsewhere.

If we are going to do that, why would we want it to hurt us later? Letting him join another team that is facing us is bad for Clemson. And there are dozens of options still available to him.

You are being totally unfair in your criticism.

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Apr 28, 2017, 11:03 AM

Has he a shot at the draft next year? If so, I understand his motivation to show is talent his last year. Hate to lose him, but it will free up a scholarship. Luck and nest wishes Korrin.

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Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer


Apr 28, 2017, 11:09 AM

Korrin will walk out with his degree and that is awesome! I do not like hearing that he was told to move on by the coaches; it doesn't sit right with me. However, he agreed to give us a few years of his life and Clemson promised him a degree if he worked hard for it. Both ends held up to their agreement. Just doesn't feel right though.

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Pretty sure he wasnt told to move on


Apr 28, 2017, 11:13 AM

Maybe that he had fallen behind others and unless injuries wouldn't play much.

That is just being honest and there will be more of that coming next year with the recruits that are coming in.

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Apr 29, 2017, 7:37 AM [ in reply to Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer ]

I have zero reason to believe he was told to move on by the coaches. IF they were going to do that it certainly wouldn't have been after spending time working with him at the expense of others at spring camp. This seems pretty clear that the player didn't like the depth chart we have or just didn't want to work. Clemson has no reason to run him off - we can't even use his scholarship at this point (yes some W/O will get it this season but that isn't a player we wouldn't already have).

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Re: New Story: Clemson defensive back to transfer


Apr 28, 2017, 11:16 AM

Guess he was told he wasn't goin to be a starter or something. Thought he would have a good year this year but oh well next man up. Best of luck to you Wiggins and is it me or is this one of the first times Dabo and staff have put restrictions on where he can go. Guess he of his talent level.

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Could be wrong, but don't most graduate transfers happen


Apr 28, 2017, 1:04 PM

before spring practice?

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Good luck Korin


Apr 28, 2017, 11:18 AM

Korin has been part of the program for 5 years.

I respect the dialog between the staff and Korin about playing time. Assuming he graduates in May, there are no restrictions on where he could play in 2017.

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Re: Good luck Korin


Apr 28, 2017, 12:34 PM

His timing is questionable. What happened to loyalty to your school?

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He has been loyal. He wants a shot at NFL


Apr 28, 2017, 8:50 PM

I don't fault anyone for dreaming

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Apr 28, 2017, 11:26 AM

So who passed him on depth chart? Has to be two guys.

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Apr 28, 2017, 11:29 AM

Headline story. Sure wish you'd put DW4 and Mike Williams back up as the two lead stories. They deserve it, Korrin's leaving. jmho.

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Has to be more to this story...we're not out of scholly's


Apr 28, 2017, 11:39 AM

There has to be more to this story. Even if he is getting passed on the depth chart, he is a senior, and the team is not out of scholarships.

The team cant use his scholarship for another recruit until January...Just seems like a strange move to me

Good luck Korrin

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Coaches decision to move lower on chart, his to transfer


Apr 28, 2017, 1:24 PM

Every spring our coaches meet with every player and gives them an honest assessment of where they are. I am assuming they told Wiggins he was not going to see much playing time. They are being honest about his opportunity here, they would gladly keep him if that is what he wants...but if he wants to play I think they told him it would have to be somewhere else.

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What the heck's going on? This doesn't make any sense.


Apr 28, 2017, 12:17 PM

nm

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Apr 28, 2017, 12:21 PM

Why so late making this decision?

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Best of luck and best wishes...always a Clemson Tiger!


Apr 28, 2017, 1:33 PM

Thanks for being a Tiger for life.

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Just for argument sake....


Apr 28, 2017, 1:46 PM

And I'm not saying it is going to happen by any means but the coaches said he can't go anywhere who is on the 2017 schedule....

Can he go to Duke since they are not on the schedule....but may possibly be added to the schedule for the ACC Championship game?

The odds are he isn't going to Duke and the odds Clemson faces Duke in the championship game are slim but I was just curious.

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Good question, could he go to ACC school not on our schedule


Apr 28, 2017, 2:03 PM

like Duke for instance? Since he says he want to go to school near his home in N.C. Like Pagano, I see him as being possibly an all-star whereever he goes. I hope the coaches are really being wise here?

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He looked really good in Spring game, so surprised!***


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Apr 28, 2017, 2:14 PM

Pure speculation on my part, but the theory there is more going on here is valid IMO. He's appealing where he can transfer to. Don't believe he'd be doing that unless he was told to leave and feels like he should be able to go wherever he wants. Also the language 'different direction' has been used in many a job termination. I dunno...like I said, pure speculation on my part. Just reading between the lines.

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Apr 28, 2017, 2:22 PM

Good luck. I was expecting a big year from him. Dang hate to see him go.

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Apr 28, 2017, 2:45 PM

I don't remember any other player getting restricted by Coach Swinney as to where they were allowed to transfer to. It sounds like he either complained about his depth chart position and they were upfront with him about his chances at moving up in playing time or He has gotten into some trouble and was told that they would let him stay on the team until he graduates so he is transferring and making up a story about "a different direction".

I don't like seeing someone get restricted in where they can go play but I can see the logic behind it. Especially a 5th year guy like this that probably knows the playbook as well as the coaches and could tell the coaches of his new team what play was potentially coming based off signals, formation, etc.

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Best of luck Korrin. Hate to see you go!***


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Apr 28, 2017, 6:01 PM

His story doesn't make sense. According to the end of spring practice depth chart, he was third . Given the injury nature of college football, he could be a starter or key backups with an injury to the starter. You don't transfer because you are third in line. You work harder to get the starting job. He knows our playbook. I would never allow him to play for any ACC team.

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maybe we can find a preferred walk on to give a


Apr 28, 2017, 6:10 PM

scholarship to

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Apr 28, 2017, 7:00 PM

Did Wiggins get offended that he wasn't the starter and just quit the team? The coaches are going to have to consider in the future these graduate transfer types at Clemson and maybe sign replacements for them. I hate this graduate transfer rule. It's creating a bunch of players who quit on their school for selfish reasons.

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I don't mean to be mean, but.....


Apr 28, 2017, 7:34 PM

It's not a big deal, really...it isn't.

Wish him the best, but...
Next man up, right.
#21

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Re: I don't mean to be mean, but.....


Apr 28, 2017, 8:06 PM

It's not a big deal until you consider the timing of these decisions. Coaches build their units in spring practice based on the returning players. Wiggins was counted on for experience. Leaving now hurts because you could have developed another player. I wish the graduate transfer rule never existed.

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He was once committed to UNCheat


Apr 28, 2017, 11:40 PM

Flipped to us. With an actual earned degree, would they let him in, tho?

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Re: He was once committed to UNCheat


Apr 28, 2017, 11:59 PM

I hope Dabo will not let him transfer to UNC. We could meet them in the championship game.

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Re: He was once committed to UNCheat


Apr 29, 2017, 12:01 AM [ in reply to He was once committed to UNCheat ]

See what you mean . He may be overqualified academically .

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Apr 29, 2017, 11:33 AM

WOW...just wow. Wiggins looked great in the spring game. He flashed several times. Why is he transferring? He could make a big difference this year.

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Apr 29, 2017, 11:46 AM

That's a good question. It's called if I don't start I'm leaving. There is no doubt that our football recruiting has skyrocketed since Wiggins signed with us. The upperclassmen aren't as talented as the young players. It doesn't mean you quit the team especially just going through spring practice. This graduate transfer rule is ruining college sports.

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