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CU Medallion [55658]
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I’m happy, but how effed up is the US political “system”?
Nov 3, 2021, 6:30 AM
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Youngkin had to win the ENTIRE STATE with big margins in red country where I live, just to EEK OUT an overall win due to the libs in NOVA.
Thank God it was a clean GOP sweep for statewide offices AND the House will have a GOP changeover.
The people don’t want Wokelism. Period.
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Re: I’m happy, but how effed up is the US political “system”?
Nov 3, 2021, 6:42 AM
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Yeah look at the Virginia county map. The entire state is red except for a few brain dead counties and the brain dead control the state. I have friends in rural southwest Virginia. They wish they could secede from Virginia. They should! Screw that northern Va cesspool.
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All-In [26968]
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That's how it works everywhere.
Nov 3, 2021, 6:47 AM
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People in larger cities tend to vote more for Democrats, and those outside of cities tend to vote for Republicans. So, in just about every state, you have a large physical area voting Republican, and a densely populated smaller area voting Democrat.
100 years ago I believe it was the opposite, when the Republicans held the cities. Maybe one day it will flip again.
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Orange Blooded [4679]
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Re: That's how it works everywhere.
Nov 3, 2021, 6:55 AM
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You’re correct. In the National election you see a huge red country with little blue dots scattered around. I call them the gimme gimme dots.
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CU Medallion [59974]
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Detroit Mayor won again
Nov 3, 2021, 6:57 AM
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even with all the corruption and FBI probes into his office. It’s just unreal.
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All-In [26968]
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I just don't see it as something "messed up"
Nov 3, 2021, 7:00 AM
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It seems natural to me. People who are in different environments and have different experiences have different political perspectives.
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110%er [5645]
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Re: I just don't see it as something "messed up"
Nov 3, 2021, 8:37 AM
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You people are really failing to see the big picture. I mean "you people."
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Oculus Spirit [97663]
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Our politics have been urban versus rural since day one
Nov 3, 2021, 7:41 AM
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And it's reflective of the fact you can't govern a densely populated city like you govern a rural county. Nothing new here, other than the rhetoric.
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NOVA's a little unique. It's not so much a giant metropolis
Nov 3, 2021, 8:05 AM
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of skyscrapers and subways so much as it is a lot of people making sweet govt cheddar on the periphery of DC and voting (D) for general job security.
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CU Medallion [59974]
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First female AA Lt Gov too. Congrats!!
Nov 3, 2021, 6:42 AM
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that destroys a lot of narratives.
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CU Medallion [55658]
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And a Cuban-American AG. The pubs can play the color game too.***
Nov 3, 2021, 7:34 AM
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Re: And a Cuban-American AG. The pubs can play the color game too.***
Nov 3, 2021, 9:20 PM
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They start doing more of that they won't be Trumpists anymore.
The bottom line is that Youngkin won by being distinctly not Trump and Not Crazy. He didn't repel the middle-income voters that are so repulsed by the extremism on either side and that got him across the finish line...if barely.
I've been saying awhile the GOP will win 2024 by doing exactly that. But if Trump comes back and the GOP doubles down on Trumpiness his sheer ability to mobilize the other side even more than his own will come back into play - especially with another four years for the older Boomers to die off and a younger, more diverse generation that can't freaking stand Trump to take root.
Get rid of Trump and his all-out assault on truth and American democracy in general, be more inclusive instead of repellent to those of differing backgrounds, and the GOP takes back middle America...and rolls. If it comes into 2024 as a mob of angry white reactionary Karens and Kevins it's going to lose.
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All-In [26968]
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I don't understand how this is "messed up".
Nov 3, 2021, 7:14 AM
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To win an election, you generally have to get more people to vote for you than the other person. That's how it works.
If this election is about "Wokelism" (I don't know if that's true, or even what that is), then apparently about 48.5% of people in Virginia do want it.
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CU Medallion [55658]
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Woke + socialism = Wokelism. The crazy Dem coalition didn’t hold.
Nov 3, 2021, 7:33 AM
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Biden won because he turned out the Black vote and people were tired of Trump (more on that later). Mcauliffe couldn’t get enough of the Black vote and independents and GOPers wanted an end to Dem control at the state level. We could see the taxes coming.
Bottom line, without a guy like Biden, the Dems do not have a chance with their weird woke/LGBTQ/elite/media/socialist coalition.
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Re: Woke + socialism = Wokelism. The crazy Dem coalition didn’t hold.
Nov 3, 2021, 7:37 AM
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The good news is the Dems lost. The bad news is that things have to be bad beyond imagination for Republicans to eek out a win. That does not speak well for the socislist, give me all your stuff mindset of half the country.
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110%er [5645]
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Agree
Nov 3, 2021, 8:39 AM
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A 2 or 3 point victory over these bizarre so-called politicians is not enough. We have to get back to educating people so they can think critically.
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You should definitely do that by cutting taxes and defunding
Nov 3, 2021, 9:44 AM
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public schools.
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If you think wokism represents democrats, then the
Nov 3, 2021, 8:01 AM
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Bill Gates microchip 5G, pedophile global elitist sex ring people define Republicans.
Neither is true, but strawmen are always needed. And the extremists who you see at school board meetings, and the extremists you see protesting, etc. they represent a far smaller minority of people than the minutes they occupy on the news, or the likes they have on social media. But the news has to cover something. Are you more apt to share watering schedules and techniques for a good flower garden, or some salacious political rumor?
Ever notice the leaders who we elect never moderate their political views? Usually. It's always more extreme, never less. When they run for election (today) they are not extreme, they appeal to more people, THEN when elected, they respond to the disproportionate voice of their party's extreme wing, then they LEAD more extreme than they campaign. Complete 180 from decades past.
You can take the mask debate in my own deep red county. Think Trump won 65% of the vote. Go to a city or county council meeting, or a school board meeting, and you hear 9 mask haters for every person who supports them. BUT, a poll of the parents of the 28,000 kids in our school district, almost 70% wanted the schools to have the ability to enact mask mandates. That's a HIGHER percentage than who voted for Trump in the county. So the issue you see reflected in the public meetings of elected officials, and the feelings of those who respond privately, at home, to a question from the district....you get two very different answers and realities. The same goes for liberals, wokism, environmentalism, abortion, CRT, whatever.
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Just the fact that you equate
Nov 3, 2021, 8:35 AM
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people taking an interest in their childrens' education to people burning down cities and looting stores really demonstrates how easily the narrative grabs people.
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110%er [5645]
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Re: Just the fact that you equate
Nov 3, 2021, 8:42 AM
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Agree 100% and you hit the nail on the head. These progressives have a mind that either does not work or works backwards.
Why T F are you calling parents at a school board meeting extremists WHEN THE A-HOLE SCHOOL BOARD WAS COVERING UP THE RAPE OF A GIRL IN A GIRL'S BATHROOM BY A GUY IN A SKIRT? Are you even aware of the issue? Do you have kids or a daughter? SMH.
This type of backward thinking is why you lost, but the sad part is you did not lose by 20 points.
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All-In [42020]
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He didn't. Lotta reading comprehension fails in this thread.
Nov 3, 2021, 8:51 AM
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Some of you either can't read or simply do this on purpose to derail conversations. There is no in between. Either way, it makes y'all look dumb.
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you done it now. Prepare yourself for a
Nov 3, 2021, 8:53 AM
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strongly worded 10,000 word essay in reply
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Oculus Spirit [97663]
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There are parents who are extremist
Nov 3, 2021, 9:56 AM
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Some are even crackheads, meth heads, you name it. Liberal, conservative, whatever. There are extremists doctors, lawyers, actors, and convenience store clerks, burger flippers, even preachers. What's your point?
If you have to elevate the status of someone making a point, to make the point, especially before even making any point, then credibility is already lost. This is what liberals have done for decades, and now republicans do it too. I'm a black, single mother....then they make a point. I'm a patriotic, veteran, doctor, and you make a point. Same thing. It's why I don't follow a thing Anthony Fauci says. My own personal doctor, he didn't rattle off his resume to me the first time I saw him. If he did, I'd have another personal doctor. I knew about him from friends, word of mouth, and he's a good doctor. I don't even know his politics.
A lawyer....if they start by rattling off their experience, education, or whatever, they've just shot themselves in the foot. Almost universally, they provide their clients with more of a disservice than a service. "I've been practicing law for 30 years, and...." they make their point. Ok, well, you've never had a case like this then is what that tells me, loud and clear.
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Re: If you think wokism represents democrats, then the
Nov 3, 2021, 8:46 AM
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Pathetic try. Wokeism is freaking MAINSTREAM - on every network, on commercials, on social media, promoted by social media, all over universities, all over local governments, etc.
The 5G BS, microchip, Qanon is nowhere but in your echo chamber.
You are seriously out of touch.
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All-In [42020]
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What's your definition of "wokeism"?
Nov 3, 2021, 8:54 AM
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And I'm asking NC, not any of you other clowns. Don't answer for him.
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"Woke" or "Wokeism" = defunding or "reimagining" police,
Nov 3, 2021, 10:50 AM
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reparations for slavery, white privilege, different laws, rules, and moral/behavioral expectations and standards for people based on race/ethnicity, pretending that there are not general, fundamental differences between men and women, limiting free speech in order to protect certain groups of people from having their feelings hurt (while not protecting other groups), pretending that such speech is violence, critical race theory, etc. etc. etc..
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Wokeism is MUCH more mainstream and openly represented
Nov 3, 2021, 10:32 AM
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amongst elected dem politicians than global pedophile sex ring promoting/believing elected pubs. I agree, those two extreme groups are equally wacky, but not close to equally represented.
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All-In [42020]
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Just because a person votes Dem...
Nov 3, 2021, 8:06 AM
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Doesn't mean that person wants "wokeism". No more than those who vote Pub want Trump-level fascism. There really aren't as many extremists as people think. Mostly it's moderates who are just sick of incumbents.
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Re: Just because a person votes Dem...
Nov 3, 2021, 8:28 AM
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I think we are starting to see a weakening of Party control (hopefully). Would love to see a bigger part of the country register with neither party.
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All-In [42020]
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One third of all voters are just that
Nov 3, 2021, 8:49 AM
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No party affiliation and consider themselves moderates. I hope that number is growing.
We moderates run this ####, and that's usually why a person is booted out of office; they're sick of them.
Trump landed the moderates in 2016 as a response to Obama and Hillary. He lost them in 2020 as they were sick of his ####.
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They always project.***
Nov 3, 2021, 8:36 AM
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when they throw that out, there is really no room to even
Nov 3, 2021, 8:39 AM
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have a conversation. You can move on from crazy
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Re: fascism. just lol***
Nov 3, 2021, 8:41 AM
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Remember all those reporters he sent to prison? An obnoxious big mouth he was, but pretty much a moderate when it came to action. And other than court appointments, he governed like a moderate Democrat.
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Re: Thanks for playing.
Nov 3, 2021, 9:06 AM
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So which one was prosecuted? Obama administration prosecuted 8 whistle blowers. Trump administration went after none. I'm no big Trump fan, but this idea that he was a Facist, makes me realize people don't know what a Facist is, and haven't studied history enough to recognize what one looks like. A big mouth jack ### he was, Hitler and Mussolini he was not.
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All-In [42020]
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Oh, so I see
Nov 3, 2021, 9:37 AM
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If he and his minions don't actually act upon his threats to imprison reporters for just doing their jobs, then it's okay.
No, he wasn't a Hitler or a Mussolini. Given the power to be one, he #### sure would have been. Luckily, our democracy was too strong.
If you want me to #### well show you that I know what fascism is, I can. I've done it many times on this board and y'all stick your fingers in your ears and refuse to listen. It's a pretty detailed playbook mapped out throughout history, and Trump attempted to follow it.
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Struggles at reading comprehension, lol.***
Nov 3, 2021, 8:45 AM
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Our system is great. Youngkin won 51%. Not a blowout.
Nov 3, 2021, 7:50 AM
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Glad he won over more people, since that’s what should matter, not districts.
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I think he won bc of the jab mandates
Nov 3, 2021, 7:54 AM
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As much as crt.
Black people ain't playing the jab game
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Virginia governor isn’t like POTUS right? You don’t get electoral votes for
Nov 3, 2021, 8:46 AM
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winning each county.
Look at the map and select the “margin” option. It’s not like the Republican got 100% of the non-NOVA counties.
https://www.politico.com/election-results/2021/virginia/
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the Supreme Court has ruled that such a system would
Nov 3, 2021, 4:22 PM
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be unconstitutional under one man, one vote
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Messed up but best there is.***
Nov 3, 2021, 1:14 PM
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Vote rigging in big cities has been going on forever***
Nov 3, 2021, 1:59 PM
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yep. Nixon would have been president in '60 but for the
Nov 3, 2021, 4:23 PM
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Kennedy shenanigan's
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