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Wanted to follow up, even though talk has died down...
Feb 28, 2018, 3:38 PM
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My first paycheck with the new tax law came through today. My savings are $144 for the month.
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Technically $129.60 after the Lord gets his share.***
Feb 28, 2018, 3:39 PM
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No...tithe is off the gross.***
Feb 28, 2018, 3:41 PM
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Lot o points [155578]
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Gotcha....that one always confused me.
Feb 28, 2018, 3:44 PM
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Gross would make sense, but that whole "Render unto Caesar" verse made me wonder if the tithe was pre or post-Caesar rendering.
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Well, I'm sure not everyone does it the way I do...
Feb 28, 2018, 3:45 PM
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To me, if I tithed post-tax, I'd be saying that the government has more right to my stuff than God does.
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Lot o points [155578]
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Oh I get that line of thinking, but if you take
Feb 28, 2018, 3:48 PM
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that Matthew verse quite literally "Render to Caesar what is.....and to God what is God's...." It almost makes it sound like they're mutually exclusive, so from an accounting standpoint, the tithe would be off net income.
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Naw. If I owe you $100 and RH Tig $500...
Feb 28, 2018, 3:52 PM
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I don't go to RH Tig and say, since I have less money because I paid you $100, I shouldn't owe him as much. I owe you both what I owe you. They are separate, which is the point of the Scripture teaching there.
Now, I'm very glad the government sees fit to not tax the money I give to my church. But that's the opposite of what we're talking about, and obviously not a Biblical teaching, but a government policy.
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just as an FYI to all of this, I would recommend
Feb 28, 2018, 3:55 PM
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NOT being in a position of owing RH Tig money.
It never EVER ends well.
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The Reese's Cups didn't hurt THAT bad***
Mar 1, 2018, 8:36 AM
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Lot o points [155578]
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Interesting, I see where you're going with that.
Feb 28, 2018, 3:58 PM
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How about this one, from Leviticus 27:30-34
"If a man wishes to redeem some of his tithe, he shall add a fifth to it. "
Was this the earliest version of payday lending?
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Not really. Remember, that tithe wasn't about money.
Feb 28, 2018, 5:04 PM
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Not back then. It was land, fruit, cattle...stuff. This is an instruction about buying back some of the stuff earmarked as tithe. God allowed this. If one basket of apples, or one particular cow, that got earmarked for tithe is something you really wanted, you could pay for it, with a 20% surcharge on top of its value.
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Bonus...no tithe necessary on any tax refund.
Feb 28, 2018, 3:47 PM
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That is, the tithe on whatever tax refund I get was already paid, since I tithe off gross.
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hate to say it but
Feb 28, 2018, 7:14 PM
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That is legalistic.
And you may have already gotten your reward talking about it here.
Just saying.
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???
Mar 1, 2018, 8:17 AM
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I'm just stating a fact, not tooting my horn or anything. I didn't bring it up, someone else did.
Also, I'm not looking for any kind of "reward".
Your comment is very odd to me.
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Also, you don't seem to know what "legalism" means.
Mar 1, 2018, 8:28 AM
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Or, perhaps we just have very different definitions of that word.
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I'm not really up to speed on what may/may not be changing
Feb 28, 2018, 3:39 PM
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for me....but weren't those changes already in effect?
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end of feb was required some companies did it right away***
Feb 28, 2018, 3:41 PM
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My employer didn't change in time for January pay.
Feb 28, 2018, 3:44 PM
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However, the tax rate still applies for the whole year. So when the tax return goes in next year, the government will owe me that amount I overpaid in January.
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my check did not go up
Feb 28, 2018, 3:40 PM
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cause i don't have any taxes taken out
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I heard them social security checks got a little higher...
Feb 28, 2018, 3:44 PM
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a few weeks ago due to rising cost of living though!
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Re: I heard them social security checks got a little higher...
Feb 28, 2018, 3:53 PM
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Man, I only get 16.71/check.
Feb 28, 2018, 4:37 PM
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something has gone terribly wrong.
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Well you'd better save it to make up for the loss of the
Feb 28, 2018, 6:35 PM
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mortgage interest deduction, if you have one. That bill won't come due until next year's taxes.
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Lot o points [155578]
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fake news***
Mar 1, 2018, 7:04 AM
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Can you elaborate like I'm 5?
Mar 1, 2018, 8:30 AM
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SRS request is SRS.
What are the stipulations/limitations etc?
Sincerely,
Someone with 3 mortgages.
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Lot o points [155578]
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Sure thing.
Mar 1, 2018, 9:09 AM
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Home equity interest deduction is gone (for now anyway—-expires in 2025 or so).
Mortgage interest deduction still very much on the table up to a mortgage of $750k (or $1M if you bought before December last year)
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Legend [16213]
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Cool. Thanks for clearing that up.***
Mar 1, 2018, 1:45 PM
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Re: Wanted to follow up, even though talk has died down...
Feb 28, 2018, 7:10 PM
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You are just seeing an increase in your check??
Are you paid monthly?
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the gov't did not require withholding software update til
Feb 28, 2018, 7:19 PM
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the end of feb
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Small business owner here.
Feb 28, 2018, 9:23 PM
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Won’t have estimate of impact until April or so.
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Mine was skewed with additional income***
Mar 1, 2018, 8:35 AM
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You can always divide the federal withholding by
Mar 1, 2018, 8:38 AM
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your gross pay, and compare that percentage from paycheck to paycheck.
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Or I can wait a couple of weeks***
Mar 1, 2018, 8:40 AM
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Re: Wanted to follow up, even though talk has died down...
Mar 1, 2018, 1:17 PM
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I want to know what happened to bible study? Waiting by my computer.
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Got busy and got off the train...
Mar 1, 2018, 2:53 PM
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Hard to get back on it again. If you keep pestering me about it, I might carve out the time to restart it.
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Splitting hairs, but it's important....
Mar 1, 2018, 2:05 PM
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you didn't "save" anything....less of what you earned was taken.
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