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Oculus Spirit [79990]
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What was Larry Shyatt’s best acc tournament?
Mar 10, 2021, 9:06 PM
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Anybody remember if he won any games in the tournament?
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Re: What was Larry Shyatt’s best acc tournament?
Mar 10, 2021, 9:20 PM
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Larry hosted FSU in the Larry Shyatt Invitational game most years. He beat them once to go 1-5 in the ACC tourney for his tenure.
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I guess that’s why i couldn’t remember most of it. lol***
Mar 10, 2021, 9:21 PM
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Re: I guess that’s why i couldn’t remember most of it. lol***
Mar 10, 2021, 10:10 PM
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Yeah. That said I really like Larry and he loved Clemson. He knows the game. He won 2 titles on Donovan’s staff at Florida. Was an assistant at the Dallas Mavericks. But could never get anything going as HC at Clemson.
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“He loved Clemson” LOL I remember hearing that all the time.
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Mar 10, 2021, 10:36 PM
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He loved his paycheck from Clemson. He was a jerk to people around campus.
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Re: “He loved Clemson” LOL I remember hearing that all the time.
Mar 10, 2021, 10:48 PM
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He was the lowest paid coach in the ACC and paid his Wyoming buyout out of pocket - more than 1/2 of his first years salary. Sorry he upset your friend.
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What was his “low” salary at Clemson?
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Mar 11, 2021, 6:06 AM
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Can you give us a number, please?
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Re: What was his “low” salary at Clemson?
Mar 11, 2021, 6:47 AM
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He made in the $400ks. His buyout from Wyoming was over $250k.
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Poor guy :(***
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Mar 11, 2021, 8:00 AM
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Re: Poor guy :(***
Mar 11, 2021, 8:50 AM
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Not sure why this is triggering you so badly. I never said he deserved a raise, extension, or was done wrong in anyway by Clemson. Just that I liked the guy and think he wanted to be at Clemson. As a former assistant at Clemson he knew exactly what he was walking into in terms of facilities, fan support, and administrative support. He left a school that was willing to match our terms. By paying his own buyout he made less money over the next 5 years than he would have at Wyoming. A pretty clear sign that he was betting on himself to be able to succeed at Clemson. He failed to do so. It’s been a long time. Get over it.
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I can’t believe I’m saying this, but
Mar 11, 2021, 9:28 PM
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outstanding post, viz. I agree 100%.
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Shyatt was the basketball equivalent of Tommy West.
Mar 11, 2021, 9:32 PM
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Good guy, loved Clemson, hired because he was an assistant on successful Clemson teams, but was in over his head and couldn’t recreate the magic.
Both were awful hires.
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Re: What was Larry Shyatt’s best acc tournament?
Mar 10, 2021, 9:26 PM
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We haven’t earned a lot of respect in the ACC down through the years in the ACC. We are better than we have been in the past but have a ways to go to earn much respect in basketball but we are about to breakout!
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Re: What was Larry Shyatt’s best acc tournament?
Mar 10, 2021, 10:19 PM
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Shyatt's facilities were beyond atrocious. We have thrown over 100 million at them since and they are still mediocre compared to the top programs in the country. We finish middle of the pack and spend near the bottom, that is where we are at. That being said the new little john annex is nice and means we will not have to go toe to toe with mid-majors for players. The talent level is up considerably from 3 years ago. I do not know what some of you guys expect. If we made a commitment to basketball we could finish at the top of the pack, but that does not seem to be an aim of the AD. Recruiting is a dirty business in this sport and it seems Clemson is content flying below the radar in Bball.
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So, Shyatt's facilities were atrocious...
Mar 11, 2021, 12:00 AM
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so by default, so were the facilities of Cliff Ellis and Rick Barnes... I was there during the height of the Ellis years, and those players didn't come to Clemson for the bag. Guys like Horace Grant, Grayson Marshall, Dale Davis, Elden Campbell, Sharone Wright, Chris Whitney, David Young, or Marion Cash could have gotten more bags at some other schools, but Ellis won the regular season title with fewer benefits than those north carolina blue bloods, virginia, maryland and georgia tech...
Barnes probably did the most with less of any coach that Clemson has ever had... Bill Foster did a pretty good job as well but he had future professional talent on a few of his rosters...
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I don't believe facilities played nearly as big of a role in
Mar 11, 2021, 9:32 AM
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recruiting 30-40 years ago. That seems like a relatively recent phenomenon that's just become more and more important over the last 20ish years.
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Re: I don't believe facilities played nearly as big of a role in
Mar 11, 2021, 4:54 PM
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Dean dome was built in 1986.
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I didn't state that Ellis signed Grant
Mar 15, 2021, 5:59 PM
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but it was under Ellis when Grant became ACC Player of the Year and a 1st round draft pick...
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Re: So, Shyatt's facilities were atrocious...
Mar 11, 2021, 5:57 PM
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Bill Foster's problem is that he didn't know who his best players were and basically let Harvey Grant walk out the door and become an All-American at Oklahoma.
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Re: So, Shyatt's facilities were atrocious...
Mar 11, 2021, 7:35 PM
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Barnes had 1 top 20 class, that is it. Buckner is the only player he sent to the NBA. Barnes did however get the most out of his players, and his teams were hard-nosed and physical.
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Harold Jamison played briefly in the nba.***
Mar 11, 2021, 8:37 PM
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So did Devin Gray.
Mar 11, 2021, 9:33 PM
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Although he was a Cliff Ellis recruit and didn’t get to play much for Barnes.
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MBB had to play at the Anderson Civic Center for home games
Mar 16, 2021, 12:01 AM
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that's pretty embarrassing/pitiful to have an ACC team play in a facility like that. Not that it was bad for a Civic Center, but there was no Greenville at the time.
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It isn’t a weak class.
Mar 11, 2021, 9:35 PM
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Let’s give them a couple of years and revisit this then. I think you’ll be surprised.
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So, we need to wait?
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Mar 16, 2021, 6:43 AM
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Again???
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Why would Clemson or any middle of the road program
Mar 16, 2021, 12:46 AM
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invest in infrastructure for basketball when the best college players in the best programs play only one year and leave? IMHO college hoops is not a viable sport -- only a March Madness gambling event.
Still Clemson Basketball has really benefitted from football infrastructure that they have been allowed to share. A win-win.
Not a Brownell fan, I don't watch Clemson Basketball anymore, I have Rutgers in my pool, but I'll still feel good for the guys if they hustle to a win in Game 1.
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Re: What was Larry Shyatt’s best acc tournament?
Mar 11, 2021, 7:30 PM
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Larry Shyatt 1-5
Rick Barnes 2-4
Oliver Purnell 3-7
Brad Brownell 5-9
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Re: What was Larry Shyatt’s best acc tournament?
Mar 11, 2021, 8:52 PM
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Brownell is 5-10 in the ACC tournament but providing reliable information is not your strong suit.
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My apologies, it wasn’t intentional.
Mar 11, 2021, 9:36 PM
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Regardless, his ACC Tournament record is poor. He needs to do better.
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