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Grooming….It AiN’t hAPpeNiNG…

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May 16, 2022, 10:00 PM
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LoL…

Zobella oversaw the high school's "Q Space" afterschool program. The high school defines the Q Space club as a "space students will learn about LGBTQIA+ history, create community, and engage in individual and group work exploring identity and collaborating to discover community care and joy."

https://www.conservativereview.com/woke-arizona-high-school-counselor-who-helped-organize-drag-show-for-students-arrested-and-accused-of-having-sex-with-15-year-old-girl-2657324079.html


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May 16, 2022, 10:09 PM
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When do all of the numerous 'scattered isolated incidents' among school employees get acknowledged as a widespread pattern of 'grooming'?

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May 17, 2022, 8:54 AM
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Lol. There is a lot more widespread grooming and creepy behavior like this than the more is white supremacy. You wouldn't know it by the corporate media though.

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May 17, 2022, 9:30 AM
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Sorry to not understand your post, but the "behavior like this than the more is white supremacy" wasn't clear to me.

Would you indulge me with a clarification?

Thanks.

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May 17, 2022, 6:14 PM
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When do all of the numerous 'scattered isolated incidents' among school employees get acknowledged as a widespread pattern of 'grooming'?


How about leave anything that doesn’t have anything to do with sexuality out of school and no one will be having this discussion.

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May 17, 2022, 9:48 PM
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Thanks for clarifying. I agree with you.

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Having sex with students as an authority figure is illegal.

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May 17, 2022, 8:50 AM
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And it happens daily in this country. Draw a line between the grooming that happens in, let's call them "hetero" M-F F-M teacher-student trysts, and this totally obscene example you provided here. Let's determine where your actual issue resides. Here's a hint: nearly every one of those daily stories involves grooming.

Presumably, you're ok with the heterosexual kind of grooming since you zeroed in on this particular story, yeah?

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Re: So the cure for 'hetero grooming' is '#### grooming'?


May 17, 2022, 9:28 AM
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Sorry, but using the example of 'homosexual' grooming' as a cure for 'heterosexual grooming' in the school system is absolutely and categorically wrong.

There couldn't be a worse excuse for condoning 'homosexual' grooming in the schools.

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What in the world kind of leap did you just make there?

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May 17, 2022, 9:32 AM
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Neither are acceptable, and neither are a "cure" for the other. You need a new pencil, because you're drawing some weird ### lines today. I'm interested in knowing why this kind of grooming is worse than all the grooming that happens daily between M-F and F-M teachers and students that leads to (quite literally) daily stories about teachers being caught, arrested, prosecuted, etc.

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Re: What in the world kind of leap did you just make there?


May 17, 2022, 10:32 AM
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This point of this thread isn't to simply complain about the 'grooming' situation, but rather what to do to fix it.

Your digression about 'there are heterosexual groomings going on' reflects a basic mis-understanding about how problems are solved.

It also ignores the fact that the 'homosexual groomings' are being done on a wide brush stroke way (mainstreaming the various ways in which homosexual behaviors are practiced), whereas the 'heterosexual groomings' are usually targeted by specific predators on specific children.

Rather than diverting the thread into 'there are other problems, so let's not focus on any one problem' embodies the thought process of a person who does not understand the problem-solving process.

Solve each component of the problem as a first step. In this case, the first problem to solve is to stop the proliferation of 'broad brush stroke' homosexual grooming in the schools. Quite frankly, this is the easier problem to solve and will have the most favorable impact. The homosexual grooming problem in schools is also growing exponentially, and therefore should be the first component of the 'grooming' problem to be solved.

Sorry if all of this offends you.

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You being utterly wrong doesn’t offend me at all,

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May 17, 2022, 11:00 AM
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except to the extent that you should be smarter than this as (ostensibly) a Clemson graduate. As your side of the aisle is wont to do, you are fully (and completely incorrectly) conflating homosexuality with pedophilia. Do pedophiles exist within the homosexual subset? Of course, but not in any statistically higher numbers than in the larger heterosexual population. My sister is married to a woman. She doesn’t try to recruit people to her “team”, and if she happened to be a school teacher and mentioned her spouse (which is now illegal in Florida), she wouldn’t be convincing any child to be homosexual nor would she be grooming them for anything, same as any “normal” heterosexual conversation between teacher and student.

And if you implied with a straight face that she was a pedophile simply by virtue of being homosexual, I wouldn’t have to kick your ass because she’d have already done it for me. What the woman did in this example is grooming and wrong on every level, just like the heterosexual predators that operate daily in our schools. Stop this fear mongering garbage. You should be better than this.

Oh, and sorry if this offends you.

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Re: Now that I know you're a tough guy, I'll be scared


May 17, 2022, 1:00 PM
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OK, now that I know you (and your groomer school buddy [subject of this post]) are tough guys, I'll be cowering in fear whenever I see your posts.

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I'm not a toughguy at all, but if your polluted brain

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May 17, 2022, 1:35 PM
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has arrived at homosexual = pedophile, then you're personally insulting a lot of close family and friends of mine, and I take offense to it, as would they. Are you not drawing any distinction between the two? Because that's the line you're walking up to this point.

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Re: I'm not a toughguy at all, but if your polluted brain

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May 17, 2022, 6:04 PM
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I didn't take he was suggesting gay = pedophile.

But, the farther left/woke the pendulum swings the more acceptable behavior becomes, that used to be unacceptable.

I posted something the other day about a girl that turned gay ostensibly because her friend group happened to all figure out they were gay at the same time. We all know what is going on...peer pressure to be gay - peer pressure to be lesbian - peer pressure to change your gender.

I am convinced most of these are young impressionable people who are diving headfirst into a lifetime of mental problems. I don't know when the right time to "turn" gay is, but IMO there should be zero influence to turn gay from schools, and we can't disguise pressure to turn gay as "we all need to accept" gays. Kids will naturally accept gays for the most part - they don't need a lot of convincing.

To stop it, you have to elect people like DeSantis and keep this crap out of the schools. Keep schools rigorously focused on reading, writing, math, and cooperating with one another.

LBGTQ people are fine - my sister is gay, one of my best guy friends is gay. Heck a long-time family doc did a full-scale gender change and my family was one of the few that did not blink an eye, and we stayed with him/her. No big deal, but do not create an environment in elementary/middle schools that promotes turning gay or changing genders.

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Re: NC Tiger gets it ... read his post and learn something


May 17, 2022, 9:47 PM
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You provided an articulate explanation about why the 'homosexual grooming' process in schools is terrible, and how that isn't related to homosexuality in general.

The lefties who jump at the opportunity to 'virtue signal' by going after anyone who has criticized anything associated with homosexuality is either (1) an emotional response; (2) an inability to read carefully; (3) a lack of critical thinking; or (4) sociopathic BS intended to deflect attention away from an issue that they know is bad.

Any person who presumes that a person who is against 'homosexual grooming' in the schools is ipso facto a hater of homosexuals is a narrow minded idiot.

In my private life and professional life, there are numerous good guy / good girl homosexuals who are also virulently against school practices which divert away from teaching readin' writin' rithmatic. These are smart, well balanced, and moral people.

It seems that many of TNet's lefty virtue signalers seem to believe that all homosexuals are pervert predators, and that those pervert predator homosexuals must be defended to PROVE that the TNet virtue signaler in question can never be accused of anti-gay sentiments.

Such virtue signalers are actually guilty of the bigotry of low expectations, afraid that criticizing bad behavior that is associated with any singular homosexual in fact criticizes all homosexuals. You know, as if the virtue signally believes that all homosexuals 'lack the necessities' to know the difference between right and wrong.

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May 17, 2022, 6:29 PM
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19B® said:

has arrived at homosexual = pedophile, then you're personally insulting a lot of close family and friends of mine, and I take offense to it, as would they. Are you not drawing any distinction between the two? Because that's the line you're walking up to this point.


Well, if I ( a tax paying parent) directly tells a school not to talk to my underaged son or daughter about sexual preferences and you do anyway, I will view you as a pedophile. You wouldn’t let an older stranger come to your kid randomly in public and start talking about sexual preferences would you? I don’t give a crap of you think homosexuality is right or wrong, I’m telling you as a parent to stay away from my child with that garbage. End of story!

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May 17, 2022, 1:46 PM
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I know, right?

I've lost track of the number of female teachers - oddly, they're almost always really hot - who get busted for sleeping with 15-and-16-year-old male students. I mean, it's a lengthy list.

Contrariwise, we can go right on down and find Catholic priests historically abusing their students, male and female. It was absolutely epidemic in Catholic schools and churches for a long time, in no small part because there was such an institutional will to cover it up.

But silence ensues when you mention any of this. I just have a different theory: there's a lot of inadequate pathologies out there who are inappropriately attracted to too-young people precisely because they're not just inadequate but also immoral, and they become predators, and just like lions like to sidle up close to the zebras, child predators find ways to get close to children...and that's the real problem, always has been.

This QAnon-esque "groomers" stuff just makes me grind my teeth, because it actually provides cover for the real problem, which is plain, old-fashioned child abuse: adults who should know better manipulating and preying upon the young.

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May 17, 2022, 9:53 PM
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Agree with the other / broader societal problem re: Pedophilia and the (condoned) environments in which this takes place.

Not to narrow the overall post down too much, but the OP was about 'grooming' in the school system.

Let's focus on how to solve one problem.

Another post would be great about how to focus on one of the various other institutions in which pedophilia is condoned.

Then another post / another institution ... etc. etc.

(Of course, I'm not the TNet Rules God, so anyone can post what they want where they want ... including me!)

Best regards.

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May 17, 2022, 6:22 PM
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How hard is it to keep all of that out of school in the first place?

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Re: Stop 'not yet endemic' problem before it becomes endemic

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May 17, 2022, 9:58 PM
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You've got the point perfectly: Stop this pedophilia propagating practice of 'homosexual grooming' out of the school system before it becomes endemic.

This is the easiest way to make a big long term (positive) difference in society ... stop it in its tracks before it becomes the next fentanyl epidemic.

Then, we can go after the other more-entrenched institutions in which pedophiliac behavior is widely practices. (This will be a harder problem to tackle, but shouldn't keep us from keeping the school pedophilia / 'grooming' problem from proliferating.)

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May 17, 2022, 9:47 AM
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Speaking of groomers ...



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Re: Grooming… deflection attempt to use DJT and M.Gaetz

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May 17, 2022, 10:42 AM
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DJT booted Jeffrey Epstein out of Mar a Lago a while back. At least when DJT recognized J.Epstein as a pervert and child predator, he did something about it.

No such action from Bill Clinton and the Democrats ... other than to Arkancide Jeffrey Epstein while he was in prison.

But good job on diverting attention away from the 'homosexual grooming' epidemic in the school system by doing a Orange Man Bad post.

Oh yeah, and we'll see how the Matt Gaetz situation plays out. If Gaetz was part of the under-age sex ring, then by all means ... throw him under the jail. But you're premature (and may end up dead wrong) in the Gaetz diversion aspect of your post.

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May 17, 2022, 11:22 AM
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If you want to get rid of grooming, then why are you not calling for shutting down the Catholic churches across the country?

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Re: Grooming… deflection attempt to use DJT and M.Gaetz

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May 17, 2022, 12:20 PM
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This is a much bigger issue. Both in numbers and in the fact that public schools are 100% paid for with our tax dollars and every child is mandated to attend some sort of school.

Churches shouldn’t be off the hook or unaccountable is any way, but these two issues aren’t even comparable

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Re: Grooming… deflection attempt to use DJT and M.Gaetz


May 17, 2022, 12:55 PM
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Thank you for pointing out why the school situation and the church situation are not relevant comparison.

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Re: Grooming… deflection attempt to use DJT and M.Gaetz


May 17, 2022, 1:00 PM
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Of course it's comparable. Complete silence about the church and parochial schools, but cherry picking and posting events from public schools. And why does the level of outrage differ when it comes to "grooming" (lol) as to whether or not it comes from public or private outlets?

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Grooming is something you’d laugh at…***

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May 17, 2022, 2:21 PM
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Re: Grooming is something you’d laugh at…***


May 17, 2022, 5:23 PM
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I will lol all day long at your feigned outrage of your latest boogeyman.

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Re: Grooming is something you’d laugh at…***


May 17, 2022, 9:36 PM
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Ahh yes- it’s so obvious no one really cares about kids being raped by their teachers… just another straw man.

You’re pathetic

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Re: Grooming is something you’d laugh at…***


May 17, 2022, 9:46 PM
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People care. Unfortunately, it's been going on for thousands of years. You guys act like this is some new phenomenon that only occurs from people who think different politically than you. Prove me wrong.

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Re: Grooming… deflection attempt to use DJT and M.Gaetz


May 17, 2022, 10:08 PM
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If you want to get rid of grooming, then why are you not calling for shutting down the Catholic churches across the country?


My tax money and kids do not attend catholic schools. You have no point!

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Re: Grooming… deflection or JOKE?


May 17, 2022, 11:59 AM
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LOL at "Arkancide"(and you say I'm "premature" on MG). As to MG, I don't think Ive heard one story that "Gaetz was part of the under-age sex ring". I have heard that he was paying underage girls for sex and moving them across state/federal lines for those purposes. We shall see!

LOL at "'homosexual grooming' epidemic". You MAGA folks got to keep the fear mongering going on every tiny subject don't you.

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Re: Grooming… deflection or JOKE?

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May 17, 2022, 12:04 PM
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You should arrest him, immediately. Or admit that you are spreading lies. Nothing in-between is acceptable.

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Re: Grooming… deflection or JOKE?


May 17, 2022, 12:15 PM
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Dang, you MAGA folks are touchy this morning! You should commiserate with T3 while Biden is in Buffalo.

Well, "I" don't have the power to arrest him or Hunter for that matter. I'll let the good folks at the FBI continue their investigations and live with the results when concluded. Oh, and that "spreading lies" line is precious coming from the "election was stolen" and "1/6 was just another tourist day on capital hill" crowd. LOL!

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Re: Grooming… deflection or JOKE?

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May 17, 2022, 12:18 PM
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I’m never a “crowd”; always an individual.

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Re: Grooming… deflection or JOKE?

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May 17, 2022, 6:10 PM
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Sure, trust the FBI with a lead investigator (Strzok) of Trump exchanging texts with his mistress FBI attorney that he will prevent Trump from winning the white house.

I mean, do you people have no memory whatsoever? Or is it just selective?

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Re: Grooming… deflection or JOKE?


May 17, 2022, 12:57 PM
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Cheap innuendo doesn't make your argument sound.

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What has all that ritalin done to their brains***

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