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Nice update. Very informative.***
Jul 23, 2015, 4:43 PM
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Re: Nice update. Very informative.***
Jul 23, 2015, 4:47 PM
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Sounds like the judge gave the jury an Allen charge- encourage jury to come to a decision today. Paraphrasing but generally" there is not a more qualified group than you to reach a decision..."
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Do you think that Wilkes overcharged in this case?***
Jul 23, 2015, 5:00 PM
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That means it's a mistrial unless the judge demands...
Jul 23, 2015, 4:47 PM
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a verdict. In that case it will result in a not guilty verdict for those who insist he isn't guilty will hold out indefinitely.
IMO, the jury can't decide whether he get the max or some lower sentence.
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Re: That means it's a mistrial unless the judge demands...
Jul 23, 2015, 4:54 PM
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The jury does not determine sentencing other than what charge the defendant is guilty of. Sentencing is in the sole discretion of judge
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Re: That means it's a mistrial unless the judge demands...
Jul 23, 2015, 4:54 PM
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The jury does not determine sentencing other than what charge the defendant is guilty of. Sentencing is in the sole discretion of judge
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All-TigerNet [10469]
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Declare a mistrial, and try him again
Jul 23, 2015, 4:44 PM
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If nothing else, his family will have to declare bankruptcy due to legal fees.
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His stomach may not be able to handle it.***
Jul 23, 2015, 4:46 PM
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"Yes, but there's just something about him. .... Poor soul,"
Jul 23, 2015, 4:51 PM
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They really should try and settle this
Jul 23, 2015, 4:54 PM
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There's no way this should ever have gone to court. It's simple vandalism by a kid. There's no need for a harsh sentence, but there needs to be some consequences. They also need to ensure he doesn't profit from his actions, but that's about all.
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Re: They really should try and settle this
Jul 23, 2015, 4:56 PM
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the sorry #%@&#**#%&& should get @ least 5 years hard time
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5 Years hard time for vandalism with no priors???
Jul 23, 2015, 5:02 PM
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That's just revenge, not justice. Vandalism, in some cases can require multiple years imprisonment, but those are extreme cases of multiple offenses with malicious intent. By all accounts, the kid was a Clemson fan. He's got no record. There are no factors other than a lot of angry people that point toward a stiff sentence. A fine, probation, and/or community service are much more appropriate.
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Re: Jury in stalemate at Howard's Rock Trial
Jul 23, 2015, 4:54 PM
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terrible news!!!!!!!!!!! some of them want that punk to go free!!
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What we have here is "It's just a rock" going on.
Jul 23, 2015, 4:56 PM
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He's guilty as he!! and the jurors don't have a clue on a value for the rock. Ditch them all and start over !
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I'd rather see a mistrial than a not-guilty verdict.
Jul 23, 2015, 4:57 PM
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Don't want to see the snake walk free.
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hilarious
Jul 23, 2015, 5:02 PM
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when work blocks twitter, there is no news
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Guilty of malicious damage under 2k
Jul 23, 2015, 5:03 PM
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Not sure what kind of punishment that carries.
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thanks***
Jul 23, 2015, 5:07 PM
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That little #### got away with it.***
Jul 23, 2015, 5:10 PM
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Now is when a good judge would have told them to go back
Jul 23, 2015, 5:04 PM
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into their deliberations and not come out without a verdict. Then cut the air conditioning off in the jury room.
That's what they'd do back in the day.
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Glad that they won't send guy to prison
Jul 23, 2015, 5:24 PM
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Vandalizing the rock isn't cool but neither is ruining a persons life by sending him to prison because he was stupid. Make guy work on stadium post-game cleanup crew for 3 seasons without pay. Save prison for more worthy criminal offenses.
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He's been convicted of the crime of breaking the rock
Jul 23, 2015, 5:27 PM
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The value of the rock was just not the same to those on the jury (when they were asked to come to a decision) as it is to us. Eliminating Clemson fans or anyone who had touched the rock was bound to lower that value.
But he still did it, and that will never be a stain he can remove.
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Clemson officials should have Howard's Rock appraised and insured for
Jul 23, 2015, 5:26 PM
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the valued amount. Hope it never happens again but with insurance and an official appraisal of such a valued piece of Clemson if some idiot messes with The Rock again Clemson has a more solid foundation to see the guilty serve prison time. It's not like HR can be replaced.
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