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General US Open golf observation. So far, the pros are not
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General US Open golf observation. So far, the pros are not


Jun 16, 2022, 12:10 PM

having a whole lot of success on the undulating greens at The Country Club. When those things get baked out later in the week, it will REALLY be tough to gauge the combination of break and speed.

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Re: General US Open golf observation. So far, the pros are not


Jun 16, 2022, 12:11 PM

I would like to see over par win it, some years the course set up is too easy.

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The course is holding its own vs par so far. Another quirk


Jun 16, 2022, 12:22 PM

of the US Open is that, many times, the first round leader will be John Q. Obscure, someone nobody outside of their mother ever heard of. And, they may be 4 or 5 under par. Butt, invariably, they disappear off the leader board, usually even before the weekend. The pressure of "History" is real.

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Re: The course is holding its own vs par so far. Another quirk


Jun 16, 2022, 12:28 PM

76er® said:

of the US Open is that, many times, the first round leader will be John Q. Obscure, someone nobody outside of their mother ever heard of. And, they may be 4 or 5 under par. Butt, invariably, they disappear off the leader board, usually even before the weekend. The pressure of "History" is real.



Curious -- what's the "history" we are touching on here?

Anyone able to go further on this? I keep up casually with golf so I'm familiar with some things more so than others.

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By the "Weight of History", I mean that this title is one of


Jun 16, 2022, 1:04 PM

the 3 most coveted in the golfing world. The Masters, The US Open, The Open Championship. These are very old, established tournaments that have been around for way over 100 years. Most of the greats of the various eras have put their names on the trophy at some time or another.

Disclaimer: The PGA is also considered one of the four historical majors. I tend to discount it as a red haired stepchild to the US Open.

The pros so desire to win the US Open that they put the added pressure on themselves. You may see somebody run off and hide to win a normal Tour event. That type of dominance is rarely on display in the Majors. More often, it is a case of a tightly bunched group of four or five players coming down the stretch, and putts that would normally be routine suddenly start not going in. Tee shots spray left or right. Irons hook or fade precipitously into water or sand hazards. You might not be able to physically SEE the "weight of history", but the cottonmouth that even the best in the game get when they want to win so badly that they "choke" at the end, proves over and over that it is a real thing. Especially for the "journeyman" type pro. The thought of seeing their name next to some of the immortals of the game on one of those major trophies is enough to make them self destruct.

I can only think of one truly notable exception. Andy North won only three times total on the PGA Tour. He would be considered plodding, deep "pack" journeyman material, except for the fact that two of those three wins were US Opens.

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Re: By the "Weight of History", I mean that this title is one of


Jun 16, 2022, 1:19 PM

I was always shocked that John Daly won The Open.

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Re: By the "Weight of History", I mean that this title is one of


Jun 16, 2022, 2:29 PM

Referring, I guess, to the British Open, the name most often used by those on the other side of the pond. I was surprised at the time …… even more now.

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We "Yanks" used to refer to it as the British Open. Over


Jun 16, 2022, 3:18 PM

there, on the official signage, it is simply "The Open Championship". It is, by far, the oldest of the majors, starting in 1860. Although St. Andrews is known as "The birthplace of Golf", the very first Open Championship in 1860 was held at Prestwick Golf Club.

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Re: By the "Weight of History", I mean that this title is one of


Jun 16, 2022, 3:00 PM [ in reply to Re: By the "Weight of History", I mean that this title is one of ]

Daly explained that all he had to do was keep hitting a draw because there was little if any trouble to the left of the fairways going out and coming in. I had the privilege of playing the Old Course and he is correct even if I could only hit it about 230--about 100+ yards behind his average. He also had a great short game and could putt like a fool.

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Daly is THE prime example of a waste of God Given ability.


Jun 17, 2022, 9:56 AM [ in reply to Re: By the "Weight of History", I mean that this title is one of ]

I always said, if you could have transplanted Jack Nicklaus brain into Dalys body, nobody would have ever heard of Tiger Woods. He had that much natural ability. Booze and nonchalance ruined John Daly.

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