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All-In [44026]
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What has to happen for us to sell out a basketball game?
Jan 10, 2018, 9:30 PM
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Every time basketball game attendance sucks, we hear one or more of the following excuses:
Clemson isn't good
Clemson plays a boring style
Clemson doesn't score enough points
There was a football game the same weekend
It was too close to a holiday
Students weren't on campus
Students were studying for exams
Asking for better attendance at basketball games is mostly forbidden around these parts. In addition to the above excuses, at least one response will involve something about Clemson supporting basketball so well, "I camped out for tickets once," "Digger Phelps said Clemson was one of the loudest arenas," etc.
Guess what? Clemson is good. We are ranked in the top 20 of both polls, and top 5 in RPI.
We play an exciting brand of basketball.
We score almost 80 points per game (that's a lot compared to many teams).
There are no more football games for many months.
There are not an upcoming holidays of significance.
Students are back on campus.
No exams are occurring for quite some time.
If there ever were a time to support basketball, it is now. We are playing great, have a nice combination of veterans and young players, and recruiting is as good as it's been in a very very long time. We have new facilities.
SUPPORT OUR TEAM. PROVE THAT CLEMSON CARES ABOUT BASKETBALL AND WILL SUPPORT IT WELL.
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Re: What has to happen for us to sell out a basketball game?
Jan 10, 2018, 9:44 PM
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The administration not screwing over long term season ticket holders.
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All-In [44026]
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Oh come on. That's weak and you know it.***
Jan 10, 2018, 9:51 PM
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CU Guru [1453]
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Only weak if you are not one of the screwed........
Jan 11, 2018, 6:03 AM
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But then again we are probably a small number so you are correct, not an issue to filling the seats.
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110%er [6673]
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And the better the attendance, the more likely ZION signs***
Jan 10, 2018, 9:45 PM
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Re: And the better the attendance, the more likely ZION signs***
Jan 10, 2018, 9:46 PM
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Have the football team play a game in Little John.
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Orange Blooded [2847]
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It is Littlejohn. L-I-T-T-L-E-J-O-H-N. One word.***
Jan 11, 2018, 9:50 AM
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Play UNC at home on Jan 30th with 2 or fewer ACC losses.
Jan 10, 2018, 9:46 PM
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That sounds like a sellout.
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Orange Blooded [2847]
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Unfortunately, it will be about 40 percent Tar Holes
Jan 11, 2018, 9:55 AM
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Sell or give tickets to Clemson fans, not Tar Holes
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Orange Blooded [4745]
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I expect the Miami game to be rocking. Students are in,
Jan 10, 2018, 9:49 PM
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season ticket holders are almost always also football season ticket holders. The football season is over, time to focus on what looks like Brownell's best team.
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All-In [44026]
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I hope you are right.***
Jan 10, 2018, 9:51 PM
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Orange Blooded [3632]
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Get the tix that were sold to big donors & get
Jan 10, 2018, 9:50 PM
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them in the hands of fans who will ACTUALLY SHOW UP!
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All-In [44026]
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It's easy to blame the "big money donors"
Jan 10, 2018, 9:52 PM
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but you know good and well that the blame for Clemson fans' crappy support of basketball includes fans at all donation levels.
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Re: Get the tix that were sold to big donors & get
Jan 10, 2018, 11:03 PM
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We used to have (time for) season b-ball tix. There was a group of seats in our section each year that sat empty all season, except for the Duke and UNC games. It seems like there should be a way people could donate tickets they don't want to scouts or veterans or someone who would appreciate them!
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110%er [5977]
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Go 100% general admission, do away with season tickets.
Jan 10, 2018, 9:51 PM
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you’d see much larger and more vocal crowds. This would cost Clemson less than 2.5 million.
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All-In [44026]
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Do you honestly think fans don't attend basketball games
Jan 10, 2018, 9:54 PM
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because they don't have access to good seats?
It's not a big arena. There aren't any bad seats. A basketball game is a decent bargain if you look at ticket price, new arena, ease of parking, entertainment value, etc.
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110%er [5977]
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When they’ve done it for NIT games it works and
Jan 10, 2018, 11:49 PM
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It works very well at Duke. We sell around 7K of season tickets and less than half show up unless it’s UNC or Duke. What Clemson has done in the past doesn’t work so why not try something new.
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Orange Blooded [4379]
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Jan 11, 2018, 8:20 AM
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Dook/Cameron has reserved seats, and they sell season tickets only to 'Iron Dukes' so it's not general admission
they have general admission only for students
and the vast majority of the season ticket holders were there for Louisville
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Orange Blooded [4379]
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Jan 11, 2018, 8:22 AM
[ in reply to When they’ve done it for NIT games it works and ] |
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of course it works for post-season/tournament games with cheap tickets
Dook/Cameron has reserved seating... general admission only for students
they sell season tickets to 'Iron Dukes'
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Orange Blooded [2939]
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Jeez we just started winning and been ranked all of a couple of weeks.
Jan 10, 2018, 9:51 PM
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Give it time and when students get back if the winning continues it will happen!
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Why should the team have to wait on fans for decent support?
Jan 10, 2018, 9:55 PM
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Shouldn't a good fan base that truly cares about basketball support the team reasonably well all the time? I can understand not having sellouts if the team is bad, but we've played good basketball for a while now and many games the arena isn't even half full. Granted, the last home game was better, and that was without students on campus. But Clemson players and coaches deserve so much better.
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Re: Why should the team have to wait on fans for decent support?
Jan 10, 2018, 11:22 PM
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yeah, why can’t we have a crowd like NC State’s, they have 5 losses already this year, and probably won’t make the tournament, but the fans show up at every game and pack the house. If we can really get the John full for a lot of these games, I seriously believe you will see Clemson basketball compete at a very high level this year.
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Re: Why should the team have to wait on fans for decent support?
Jan 10, 2018, 11:22 PM
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yeah, why can’t we have a crowd like NC State’s, they have 5 losses already this year, and probably won’t make the tournament, but the fans show up at every game and pack the house. If we can really get the John full for a lot of these games, I seriously believe you will see Clemson basketball compete at a very high level this year.
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Re: Why should the team have to wait on fans for decent support?
Jan 10, 2018, 11:22 PM
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yeah, why can’t we have a crowd like NC State’s, they have 5 losses already this year, and probably won’t make the tournament, but the fans show up at every game and pack the house. If we can really get the John full for a lot of these games, I seriously believe you will see Clemson basketball compete at a very high level this year.
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move the University to a city with 200,000+ population***
Jan 11, 2018, 8:09 AM
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I’ll be there Saturday!
Jan 10, 2018, 9:54 PM
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Hope to see you all as well
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Re: What has to happen for us to sell out a basketball game?
Jan 10, 2018, 10:05 PM
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I would go if I didn't live so far, of course I come for football games but football is my favorite sport and it's not even close. Plus, football has a ton to offer with tailgating etc. to make it an all day experience. It makes the drive worth it, even if we lose the football game. It's on the bucket list to go to Clemson basketball games regularly. But that probably won't be able to happen till I'm in a closer proximity.
To answer your question though, we have to make it far in the tournament play this year, like Elite Eight, for our fans to get seriously interested again. That's the harsh truth of it. I always try to go see my Tigers even when we were average in football but not everyone is like that. I think if we go to the NCAA Tournament perennially then I'd expect fan attendance to come up drastically.
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110%er [9028]
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to get a sell out? Why sell all of the tickets of course!
Jan 10, 2018, 10:39 PM
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So says Captain Obvious
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Makes sense to me!***
Jan 10, 2018, 11:07 PM
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Re: What has to happen for us to sell out a basketball game?
Jan 10, 2018, 11:43 PM
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For people that live more than an hour away that is hard on a working night. My husband has to leave yet house at 6:30 am for work and it is a 4 hour drive for us. I would love to attend all of the games
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CU Guru [1898]
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The build up
Jan 11, 2018, 7:21 AM
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Good points, Judge. Ut would be interesting to see data comparing years we did fill the stadium. Where is the drop-off? Students, Iptay donors, other ticket holders?
Part of the picture is building momentum, year over year. If one looks at history, the attendance builds over time. It becomes a habit and something you plan for.
Another part for fans close to Clemson is share of wallet. If one goes to football championships, does that leave less $ for basketball?
For students, it's partly culture, interest, and knowledge of the sport. Winning over time means new students are tuned in. This is a big loss over the time Brownell has been figuring out his formula.
Even this year, there will be a 'when will the other shoe drop and reality hit' hesitation by fans. So as winning continues, excitement, and attendance, will build.
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Re: distance, reciprocity frequency, cost of multiple games,
Jan 11, 2018, 7:53 AM
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and basketball sucks.
hth
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Zion Williamson in a Clemson uniform*****
Jan 11, 2018, 7:55 AM
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Re: What has to happen for us to sell out a basketball game?
Jan 11, 2018, 8:06 AM
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students are back. i can see saturday being a sellout. especially if we win tonight.
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The expectation founded by many decades of experience is
Jan 11, 2018, 8:06 AM
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that Clemson has frequently started out fast, only to fold as Jan and Feb roll on. That may or may not happen this year, but it has happened so many times that fans begin to expect it. Hopefully a couple of good seasons and a few wins in the NCAA tourney will create enough excitement to erase all that built up bias towards our team.
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UNC and Dook need to bring their WalMart fans***
Jan 11, 2018, 9:18 AM
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FWIW the Louisville game seemed packed... was it not
Jan 11, 2018, 9:22 AM
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announced a sellout?
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Re: FWIW the Louisville game seemed packed... was it not
Jan 11, 2018, 9:52 AM
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the lower arena was the most-filled it's been this season, but there were empty seats in the top rows on both ends
the State game the weekend before was opposite.. the lower arena had lots of empty seats (with folks in N.O.) but the upper arena was pretty packed... thanks to $10 tickets, i guess
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Re: What has to happen for us to sell out a basketball game?
Jan 11, 2018, 9:22 AM
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Win tonight in Raleigh and hopefully it will be next home game!
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Re: What has to happen for us to sell out a basketball game?
Jan 11, 2018, 9:44 AM
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I think there are two reason for the lack of support for the Clemson Basketball team.
1.) Clemson Basketball has been an end of year disappointment for so many years that I believe the fans do not trust a Brownell coached team will sustain this winning. It is hard to feel that the tigers are a tournament team to fail in February and lose in the first round of the ACC tournament.
2.) Clemson has pushed it's long term loyal donors to the point that all the discretionary money is spent on football. This leave very little money left to support any other sport.
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