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From twitter

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https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1512852042280148994?s=21&t=s9uoxrJSPULbwPq_02HJ_Q

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It’s true unfortunately

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Apr 11, 2022, 10:35 AM

We have to change with the times if our goal is to compete at that level.

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Dabo has always done things differently

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Apr 11, 2022, 10:43 AM

Bama/UGA/OUS also take Juco players, red flag players and over sign (push players out). Did we say Dabo was living in 2005 when he won two titles?

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Can use distractions the way you did and subterfuge

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:06 PM

But it doesn’t change the fact that the game has radically changed. With all of the turnover that happens because of injuries, playing time, graduating early to go to the NFL, and a plethora of other reasons, you are not going to be able to maintain a full roster of scholarship players and quality depth without using the portal. That is a simple fact! To deny that is like saying the earth revolves around the sun.

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Re: Can use distractions the way you did and subterfuge

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Apr 11, 2022, 3:18 PM

I agree that the game continues to change and with that Dabo will have to adapt, but I don't think the portal is the only answer. Replacing transfers with recruits is still an option and for a team with a high retention rate it actually can work. Dabo will have to expand his recruiting net to bring in more players per season and target quality graduate transfers for depth, but he doesn't need to take a 5* transfer just because they are available. He has shown that year after year by passing on high level recruits who are not a fit.

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I'll defend CDS to the end

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Apr 11, 2022, 10:49 AM

But at the very least, there are some hints of truth in that Tweet that when you step back and take the orange glasses off. Not saying he's dead on, but there's a sense of uneasiness.

QB- Last year, definitely. I'm not worried with this room this year. I believe we will have some May/June or August drama and then everything will be ok.
RB- No worries.
D- I think we will improve from last year, which should be a scary thought for our opponents.

OL- major worries
WR- major worries

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Apr 11, 2022, 11:05 AM



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Re: I'll defend CDS to the end

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Apr 11, 2022, 2:22 PM

I’ll also Add that with the WR having major worries that leads to QB having major worries. We won’t truly know how good any QB is if routs are run wrong and guys can’t get open or catch 50-50 balls. QBs having to force the ball and make bad throws.

While I still think DJ was to blame for a lot of what happened last year, our WR absolutely did not help by not giving him a ton of wide open looks to gain
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I think there is some truth to this

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Apr 11, 2022, 11:07 AM

Dabo probably is the greatest recruiter and retainer of HS talent in college football history.

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Nick Saban has the number one recruiting class almost every year.

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:07 PM

Clemson barely averages a top 10 recruiting class.

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Re: Nick Saban has the number one recruiting class almost every year.

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:46 PM

And GA is in the top 2-3 every year and how many National Championships have they won in the last 40 years?

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Re: Nick Saban has the number one recruiting class almost every year.

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:46 PM

Ditto for Ohio St.

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If we hadn’t gotten generational QBs we wouldn’t have won either of our championships

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Apr 11, 2022, 1:13 PM

under Dabo.

Overall talent matters, but QB talent matters even more. So don’t put too much stock in our “lower” ranked recruiting classes.

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Getting generational talent is the difference between Dabo

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Apr 11, 2022, 5:05 PM

and Brad.

It’s ridiculous to say Dabo wins with generational talent and act like that’s a bad thing

Good coaches who go out and get the best players tend to win a lot of games.

So, of course it’s why we win ... in football.

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The biggest difference between Dabo and Brad is

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Apr 11, 2022, 7:31 PM

the fact that Dabo coaches his school’s most popular, well-funded, and well-supported sport, while Brad coaches a sport that many of our fans like to ruthlessly criticize and complain about incessantly.

Of course Dabo gets credit for bringing in guys like Deshaun and Trevor. It speaks highly of the ability of Dabo and his staff to recruit. It also shows that our recruiting classes “only” ranked 5th-10th are incredibly misleading. Our coaches haven’t had a lack of talent to overcome during those years.

Having that kind of talent at QB also suggests that our coaches possibly don’t know how to develop non-generational QBs or scheme accordingly. Maybe they do, but the Kelly Bryants and DJ Uiagaleileis of the world aren’t exactly refuting that notion.

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How would funding help Brad sign generational talent?

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Apr 11, 2022, 7:49 PM

This is an honest question.

I don’t have a particular grudge against Brad because as you say, he’s fighting an uphill battle with Clemson and hoops.

What I don’t understand and don’t particularly agree with is the notion that it’s a money issue.

Brad’s salary is not keeping blue chip players from signing. Littlejohn is not keeping blue chip players from signing.

Other that heavily funding the NIL and buying great players that way, what else does Clemson need to do in order to have Dabo-level success in basketball?

What does Brad need specifically to turn the corner in the way that Dabo was able to.

I’m not talking about winning national championships or even necessarily ACC titles. Just turn the corner! Just start getting regular NCAA bids.

Just get consistent results at a level higher than barely average.

What does Brad need?

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We spend significantly less on men’s basketball than

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Apr 11, 2022, 9:04 PM

NC State, Florida State, Miami, and Virginia Tech each year.

The difference isn’t in what the head coach is paid. The difference is in what is spent on assistant coaches and support staff. We need to spend more.

I’m terms of recruiting, I know Brad gets bashed a lot here for being a “bad recruiter” but this year’s class ranks 38th according to 247Sports. That’s about where Brad is paid.

Unfortunately for us, 38th nationally is 9th in the ACC. If we competed in a less difficult basketball conference it would be a much easier path for us to get into the NCAA Tournament with the talent we have.

Of course, we need better talent. I agree that our facilities aren’t holding us back. They also aren’t top tier facilities. I would argue that we don’t just need to be as good as a lot of other programs when it comes to facilities - we need to be better to overcome our history and reputation as a football school that doesn’t care about basketball.

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Re: We spend significantly less on men’s basketball than

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Apr 12, 2022, 5:16 AM

“38th nationally is 9th in the ACC. Super close. At least you tried. 9th in the ACC was a 104th nationally this year. That’s NET. Perhaps you’d prefer KenPom. That would be 105th. It’s such a hard conference. No wonder we just can’t win.

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With more money, which assistants would you get rid of for

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Apr 12, 2022, 8:23 AM

Higher paid(better?) assistants? Which of our assistants do you feel are underachieving and not worthy of Clemson?


jk quote in case there’s an edit…

“The difference isn’t in what the head coach is paid. The difference is in what is spent on assistant coaches and support staff. We need to spend more.”

Maybe someone jk hasn’t “ignored” should pose this question. They keep talking about spending more on assistants so if we were to do that who should go?

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Re: From twitter

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Apr 11, 2022, 10:39 AM

Blatant mischaracterization of Dabo’s overall position here. This hack cut and pasted one section of Dabo’s response to fit his own narrative, omitting the fact that Dabo also stated in the same piece,

“Again, if we're having to use it to help build our roster, that means we've missed on kids and we're no longer signing the best of the best out there. I don't see that coming. We'll have to use it, but only to fill a gap. There's nobody on the planet that won't have to use it. Just like this year, we're down one in the offensive line and we need to find a guy, so we're actively looking for an offensive lineman between now and May to get him in here for summer school. But we're not just going to take a guy to take a guy because we think he's a good player.“


Lazy, agenda driven reporting here.

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Sound bytes are the death of truth

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Apr 11, 2022, 10:46 AM

Thank you for posting everything.

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Nice take, but it doesn’t change facts or reality.

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:09 PM

And the reality is we are not using the portal and teams that out recruit us pretty much every year are.

You just don’t want to face reality.

If Dabo does not change Clemson will not remain a consistent top-five team and consistently‘s be in the playoffs.

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Re: Nice take, but it doesn’t change facts or reality.

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:49 PM

Those teams have been out recruiting us for years and we still have a better record than all but Bama in the last 10 years. I don’t see the portal approach changing that either.

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I agree to an extent but I also agree that i can take Dabo's

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Apr 11, 2022, 1:40 PM

hunch and conviction on this issue and ride it out and still feel good about it. We are blessed to have him here and if this bothers him enough to where he will only use it out of necessity and not out of exploitation then I really can't argue with him. I mean if you boil it all down, he's on the right side of the issue. Sometimes choosing the right path is a bumpy, longer ride but if his convictions are set to be for the good of his players (and he's said that ever since he's been here) then the act of raiding the transfer portal to stack your team is not in his DNA. So we better just get used to it and refuse to debate it. The only other option is watching him pack his bags and leave.

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Re: From twitter

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Apr 11, 2022, 3:07 PM

I'm pretty sure that I've seen Clemson offers to some in the portal.

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Re: From twitter

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Apr 11, 2022, 10:39 AM

We'll see.

I respect the fact that Dabo is sticking to guns on this. Stewart Mandell might be right, the jury is still out.

Collections of talent alone rarely wins championships. Jerry Jones - The Dallas Cowboys are the epitome of this in the NFL.

UGA (until 2021) has often been the epitome in College Football.

I'll take my chances with Dabo.

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We shall see...

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Apr 11, 2022, 10:45 AM

I'm not convinced that going the Texas A&M route is a winning strategy. A locker room full of overpaid 18 year old divas may not turn out as well as expected.

Dabo has always been a contrarian. It seems to have worked out well so far. Maybe he's way off in this new world, but I'm not about to bet against him. I can't name many bad moves he's made (actually, none come to mind).

I suspect that if DJ hadn't had a bad year last year, and we hadn't struggled, then nobody would be second-guessing Dabo's strategy. Time will tell, but we're still recruiting guys who fit Clemson's culture and who have more in mind than a big paycheck. And this will be a bounce-back recruiting class.

As I say, we shall see.

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This is just fodder whether you support

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Apr 11, 2022, 10:45 AM

Dabo’s approach or not. It’s clear he doesn’t know chit about that which he speaks or he is clearly manipulating the readers to get clicks. He’s a hack garbage tweeter who did no homework on our last season. Otherwise, he’d know our roster was decimated with injuries. If Dabo is cooking the books to purposely be stubborn, then why has he made offers to portal players and what reason would he have to lie about his position as he states we do look at the portal… Dude looks like a bloated dead fish floating in lake Hartwell.

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It's called the Cheez-it bowl goober

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Apr 11, 2022, 10:58 AM

The last time we played in the camping world bowl we followed it up with back to back appearances in the national championship game. I'm cool if we repeat that trend.

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I think there is some truth to this.

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Apr 11, 2022, 10:58 AM

While I admire Dabo for sticking to his guns, and agree that the ideal scenario is to never have to use the transfer portal, the reality is that the portal is here and NIL only makes it harder to sign and keep elite level players.

I don’t think Dabo’s strategy will allow us to compete with the currently elite programs, at least not consistently. I think we can remain good, winning 9-11 games on average and having a program we are proud of, simply because Dabo is a great program leader and has a program that is very well-funded and supported.

What would perhaps allow Dabo’s approach to be successful in this new age is significant reform to the portal and NIL system. Without that, it will continue to be the wild west, and having an elite program will be hard to do if we aren’t playing that game.

I also predict that without reform, we will start to lose more talented players to the portal, while also finding it difficult to recruit the top players out of high school.

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^ BOO on You JK (always saying Brad is best BB Coach for Clemson)..

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Saying, I respect your opinion Judge Keller about Dabo but please don't come & even slightly unload on a HC like Dabo who can coach & win circles around Brad.

Just look at their individual accomplishments over last 13 years (records, trophies & Natties)..

and get back with me!

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Re: ^ BOO on You (always saying Brad is best BB Coach for Clemson)..

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Re: ^ BOO on You (always saying Brad is best BB Coach for Clemson)..

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The fact that you can’t focus on the topic at hand

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Apr 11, 2022, 11:52 AM

and are resorting to criticizing our basketball program tells me all that I need to know.

Get back to me when Dabo has shown an ability to have an elite program in this era of transfer portal and NIL. Until then, you’re just pointing to a previous era of college football that is very different from what we have today.

This isn’t a knock on Dabo. It’s the reality of the farce that college football has become.

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You know, you could give Dabo some benefit of the doubt

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:10 PM

if you hadn't already used it all up on Brad.


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I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.

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Apr 11, 2022, 1:19 PM

If anyone can be elite without really using the transfer portal, and going out of his way to criticize the current setup in college football, it’s Dabo.

But I think we can all admit that it’s a risk. I hope it works out.

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That's a backhanded endorsement if there ever was jaun.

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Apr 11, 2022, 7:01 PM

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Rich. Real rich. I mean, exactly ZERO coaches have

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:16 PM

shown an ability to have an elite program in this era of transfer portal and NIL.

I mean, what with how new it all is and all.

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Alabama, Ohio State, and Georgia have all shown a willingness to utilize the portal

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Apr 11, 2022, 1:23 PM

in ways that we have not.

Obviously NIL is very new, but Texas A&M’s recruiting class shows us what is possible. They just signed the best recruiting class in history based on rankings.

I’m trying to give Dabo the benefit of the doubt here. Last year was a huge disappointment, and it was already a disappointment before the rash of injuries. I’m choosing to blame last year on the changes in college football, but it sounds like you just think our staff missed badly on recruiting evaluations and/or player development. Is that correct?

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Huge disappointment? Blame?

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Apr 11, 2022, 2:18 PM

JFC Judge. You do know we won 10 games and a bowl game, AND finished in the top 15...right?

I don't GAF about ATM's recruiting class. Let them make a single CFP then talk to me. Just one. 3 teams used the portal. GOOD FOR THEM. DGAF about that either.

No you aren't correct. I don't think our staff missed badly on recruiting evals nor player development. I think we lost 3 games. Injuries certainly contributed to that, and our QB's sophomore slump didn't help either.

But hey, I do happen to not be a tHe-SkY-iS-FAlLiNg guy because we finished outside of the top 4, so take that for what it's worth.

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If you don’t consider last year an underachieving year

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Apr 11, 2022, 9:30 PM

given that we were considered by pretty much everyone to be a playoff lock and to be much more talented than everyone else in the ACC, then I don’t know what to tell you.

Given our talent and resources, as well as the expectations, finishing 15th last year was very disappointing.

Please tell me how injuries played a significant role in our three losses last year. No shame in losing to Georgia, but we had no business losing to NC State or Pitt, nor struggling with the likes of Georgia Tech.

Beating Wake Forest was our crowning achievement last year, for crying out loud.

Hopefully last year was an anomaly, and we will return to an elite program starting in 2022. But shrugging off what other teams are doing that we aren’t, when those teams were either much better than us last year and/or out-recruited us significantly this year, is just putting your head really deep into the sand.

I get it, we are Clemson and we don’t care what other people are doing. Don’t be a follower. Rah rah and all that. Hopefully it won’t take another year where we stink on offense and struggle against teams that our second string should easily beat for you to consider that we might not be doing everything better than everyone else.

No, the sky isn’t falling. Yes, Dabo is incredible. But maybe, just maybe, there are things we can do better in this new era of college football.

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What should our basketball staff be doing differently?

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Apr 12, 2022, 8:28 AM

You know adapt and overcome what they have to work with to achieve maximum results…

Your differences in approach to Dabo vs Brad is very interesting and at this point you aren’t fooling anyone. It’s very clear to me that you aren’t a Clemson fan. You are purely a Brad brownell fan.

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Apr 12, 2022, 11:21 AM

What should our basketball staff be doing differently?

You know adapt and overcome what they have to work with to achieve maximum results…

Your differences in approach to Dabo vs Brad is very interesting and at this point you aren’t fooling anyone. It’s very clear to me that you aren’t a Clemson fan. You are purely a Brad brownell fan.



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Ever consider donating,

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Apr 11, 2022, 9:47 PM

Juanita?

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Are you using a season where we finished in the top…

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:19 PM

10.8% of all FBS teams as evidence we are not elite? Or maybe it was our 2022 recruiting class which was in the top 7.8%?




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Are you arguing that finishing around 15th in the polls is elite?

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Apr 11, 2022, 1:25 PM

And that finishing 10th in recruiting is elite?

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As usual, I think we are at the point where you are arguing

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just to argue.

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Don’t take my word for it…

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Apr 11, 2022, 4:17 PM

Google “current elite college football teams”.

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And considering our 10 year recruiting average is 10.2…

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10 seems about right. Even if we just go back to 2016, our average is 8.9. Forget the fact that we lost both offensive and defensive coordinators this season. So yeah, I’d say we’re still elite.

By the way, answering a question with a question is considered rude in some cultures, but I want you to know I didn’t take it that way.




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Our 2022 class was definitely a drop off from our recent classes.

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Apr 11, 2022, 9:34 PM

Per 247Sports:

2022: 10th
2021: 5th
2020: 3rd

I agree that losing our coordinators impacted our class, especially on defense. A 10th ranked class is still great, but not up to our recent standard.

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I’m struggling to follow…

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Apr 11, 2022, 9:43 PM

We were an elite program in 2020 and 2021 but not 2016-2019? It is convenient to leave off 2019, since we had the #10, ranked recruiting class, and 2017 when we were ranked #16, and 2016 when we were ranked #11.

But this season is different because of NIL and we aren’t adapting and our #10 class is evidence.




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You chose to calculate a 10 year average for recruiting

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Apr 11, 2022, 11:40 PM

to try to justify our 10th place class this year, when it’s clearly a dip from the most recent seasons.

I wasn’t basing elite status on recruiting classes - you were.

I base elite status on how a team performs. We didn’t play like an elite team last year - not even close. If it makes you feel better to go farther back to revisit elite teams we’ve had, or use recruiting rankings to claim that we are still elite, go right ahead.

But our most recent season - as well as our most recent recruiting class, if you want to consider that too - say that we aren’t elite anymore.

With that said, I’m not sure why this argument is so important to you. Either you’re satisfied with our most recent results, or you aren’t. And if you aren’t, then I think it’s prudent to consider things we can possibly do better in order to improve our program.

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I stopped reading at you weren’t basing elite status on…

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Apr 12, 2022, 4:52 AM

recruiting. Your entire post centers around NIL and the portal.. NIL and the portal are recruiting.

“…the reality is that the portal is here and NIL only makes it harder to sign and keep elite level players.” - JK

With that said, I used 10 years because it fits perfectly within the timeframe of Clemson “success” under Dabo. We had just beaten LSU in 2012, the game most use as the turning point of our program. If I wanted to skew the numbers, I would have gone back 11 years, to include our #20 ranked class, or 13 years to get another #27 class in there. But if you notice, I also included our average going back to 2016, our first NC under Dabo. This was provided in anticipation of your weak retort.




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I expect to see Karen's ignore list increase by 1 if you

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Apr 12, 2022, 9:28 AM

keep this up, FM.

They don't like being called out or proven to be a liar.

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Re: The fact that you can’t focus on the topic at hand

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:31 PM

@freezingcoldtakes

Is that how that works?

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I just don’t know how some of you guys can be worried.

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I just look at it differently, I guess. Of all the things I have to worry about on a day to day basis…and really, there’s not much…but Clemson football and Dabo’s leadership doesn’t crack the top 100. I don’t know if it was the six ACC championships in a row or the two national championships that everyone seems to act like it was 20 years ago but was still in the past decade. I don’t know if it’s the consistently great performance on and off the field. Or the fact that last year’s ten win season was considered a major disaster. Or the fact that, at my age, I am well aware that twitterers and journalists and talking heads are basically all morons who wouldn’t know true leadership or character if it bit them on the nose. But I just don’t worry about Clemson football under Dabo. He’ll do what’s best, not what these fools tell him is best. I’ll sit back and enjoy it.

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The sport has radically changed over the last three or four years.

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:15 PM

When we were at the top of the food chain these things were not affecting the game. You can have whatever take you want. But you’re not living in reality. Denial is not just a river!

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I believe you are thinking of The Nile…

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:41 PM

I could find no reference of a river named Denile anywhere.

Mistakes happen.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


I need a new sticker for my truck

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:40 PM

The 2016 is all but gone and the 2019 is faded.

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I'll translate this for you...

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Apr 11, 2022, 11:22 AM

...cheating and bending rules for the rich & powerful is "the way of the world" and most people believe you can't compete if you don't "go along with the crowd".

Christian, moral, and ethical principles are against this type of defeatest thinking...and so that's where Dabo stands.

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Apr 11, 2022, 11:58 AM

You may not like the transfer portal but what is unchristian, immoral or unethical about using it?

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Nothing yet until

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:09 PM

they regulate the corruption if ever.

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Re: I'll translate this for you...

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:15 PM

Georgia consistently over signs recruiting classes.

Georgia consistently culls the roster after doing so.

Georgia football had the lowest graduation rate in the SEC last year.


Only 2% of college athletes will play in the NFL.

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:27 PM

Georgia oversigns, a concept I suspect Kirby learned watching Saban build championship caliber rosters. You may not like it but it seems to work. Now, you can add tapping in to the transfer portal as yet another way to enhance an already good roster. Coaches like Dabo may not like that but its something coaches are going to do to win championships. Maybe Dabo never oversigns or goes to the transfer portal to upgrade his roster. Maybe he sticks to his guns and continues to win championships. It's also possible he continues to be competitive in the ACC but not against top ranked teams who are taking a different appraoch to recruiting and roster management.

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Different approach = abusing the

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Apr 11, 2022, 1:51 PM

system while devoid of morals as it pertains to making commitments to children.

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Apr 11, 2022, 2:06 PM

Now they're children? How come no one gets up in arms about young men the same age as these players who enlist in the military? Why is it no one gets themselves in a tizzy about these military recruits' decisions and consequences of those decisions?

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You’re not

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Apr 11, 2022, 9:58 PM

Gaslighting are you? What does my post have to do with anyone else’s statements? Yea, Children. Even a tone deaf IGA fan can differentiate men from children. You’re referring to kids that would still live at home if they weren’t in school for the most part, What the #### does military enlistment have to do with my statement? Up in arms? You think any parent that isn’t completely worthless doesn’t care about their kids’ decision to join the military? Thank you again for affirming my opinion.

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Apr 12, 2022, 7:19 AM

You are a strangely angry and incoherent man. I'm going to do my best to sort through this...

What does your statment have to do with military enlistment? Most enlistees 18 - 19 years old - would be likely still be living at home if they hadn't joing the military, just like the college "children" you pointed out. Are you going to suggest they are incapable of making their own decision and accepting those consequences?

I truly have no idea what you mean with your point about parents caring about a kid's decision to join the military. I assume all parents care what their kids do - military, college, trade schoo, whatever.

I haven't affirmed your opinion. I'm not even sure of your opinion. You don't even know your opinion.

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Apr 12, 2022, 9:48 AM

now you’re deflecting and making personal attacks again. Figures.

Comparing kids joining the military to the actual discussion is a bridge too far. I didn’t say these children are incapable of making their own decisions. The point is they are naive, vulnerable and or susceptible to being manipulated. Coaches like your beloved Kirby know that and prey on it. Does the military prey on 18-19 year old children? Can’t answer that with no relative experience, but I’m sure it’s possible. Just don’t see how you’ve drug the military into a discussion about football.

Regarding parents, statistically speaking, there are demographics of these “children” that don’t have the parental support others do, making them more susceptible to manipulation. I’m sure few would disagree with the exception of you, of course. That being it doesn’t suit your defensive position of your football program.


Again, you’ve affirmed my opinion. You have zero objectivity and only come here to troll. That says it all.

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yeah i've heard that for years though.. when we beat bama in

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Apr 11, 2022, 1:51 PM

the 2018 CFP by 4 touchdowns we were also supposed to be the same team that you just categorized us as. A team that can win the ACC but won't be able to compete with the elite. I'm just saying we have a decent track record against teams that were "high caliber" competition with Dabo at the helm. So i'll take my chances bc its really fun to watch it when that ###### gets flipped and we hear about how the other team was too worn out from their tough tough schedules.

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Apr 11, 2022, 2:11 PM

Clemson's record against high caliber teams is much better than "decent." I suggested Dabo might be right in the end and the championships keep rolling in all while doing it his way. It's also possible he doesn't jump on board like other coaches and ceases to compete for national championships.

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Over signing may not be illegal, but without a doubt, it is unethical!

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Re: From twitter

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:01 PM

Dabo is doing ot THE RIGHT WAY! Didn't you Mama warn you not to follow the crowd. Know what is right and follow that path.

Players and fans should appreciate his dedication to the players he recruits. I definitely do!

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There’s truth to that.

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:09 PM

We’ll see. Coach Swinney has said he’ll take transfers but only if we need it (probably due to a player transferring out or injuries) other coaches just go out and get the best position player because it’s an upgrade. Two different philosophies. I don’t see Mandel attacking our coach. He’s kinda of just stating the obvious.

We’ll see in the next 2-5 years which philosophy is right / wrong and provides more Wins / Losses.

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Re: From twitter

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:18 PM

Stopped reading @ “Clemson is TRYING to compete…”

WRONG.

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Apr 11, 2022, 12:57 PM

Help me understand the portal… if they are in the portal, aren’t they either a behavioral problem or were beat out at their position at their current school? Why would we want either of those at Clemson?

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The gist is the backup OL & WR's may be better than

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Apr 11, 2022, 1:20 PM

Clemson Tiger starters.

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Re: From twitter

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Apr 11, 2022, 2:00 PM

It'll be needed for depth, but even Bama, GA and OSU aren't getting guys out the portal that make an immediate impact.....they still have very highly ranked recruits carrying that load. And so will we, I think Dabo knows what he's doing and he'll use the portal where its needed most to fill a void. Right now, we're in pretty good shape other than bad luck on the injury front.

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WRONG!

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Apr 11, 2022, 11:46 PM

They’re getting starters from the portal.

That’s what he means when he says “upgrading” their rosters

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Yet we keep hearing that all of the portal guys

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Apr 11, 2022, 11:53 PM

couldn’t start for us. But they are somehow starting for Alabama. LOL!

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Cobbox on Brad Brownell: “His only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


I like Orlando and Camping World bowl.***

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Re: From twitter

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Apr 11, 2022, 7:50 PM

Settle down kids, he’ll use the portal, just not as much as others.

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dude hit the nail on the head

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Apr 11, 2022, 8:18 PM

the offense falling off has already reared its ugly head

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Why do you think this is Dabo saying he won't use the portal

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Apr 11, 2022, 8:37 PM

All he's saying is that he's not going to use it like other programs as a parity to traditional recruiting.

Dabo will use the portal to backfill positions from transfers and injury, but the guys he's recruited and are recruiting have nothing to fear about being replaced by a Stargate.

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hey, jimmy.


Dabo came in hungry and humble


Apr 11, 2022, 11:45 PM

I believe his ego has gotten the better of him. Hope he figures it out soon.

All I hear is talk about how we’re going to use the portal. So we got hunter Johnson. .. a guy that originally committed to dabo. All I hear is talk. We’re not getting any impact players out of there. I don’t see it happening.

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Re: From twitter

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Apr 12, 2022, 9:45 AM

That guys an idiot if you read the very next paragraph Dabo clarifies. Journalism is dead all it they do it twist a couple of sentences to push their narrative. Sad part, is how many people are dumb enough to believe it instead of looking up the entire article

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