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Re: Fox News, LOL
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Re: Fox News, LOL
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Re: Fox News, LOL
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May 17, 2023, 6:28 PM
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Even without Tucker, they know how to trigger their audience.
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That was a monumentally ignorant post.
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May 17, 2023, 6:31 PM
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Just sayin.
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No, he's right
May 18, 2023, 8:00 AM
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This is a proposal from, what, five radical Dem lawmakers that has 0.0 chance of going anywhere in Congress. They know it, too, but they're just pandering anyway. Folks knows focusing on this BS will get its base triggered and fired up.
Oh. And look. That's exactly what happened with you.
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I remember when ESG was a “radical” idea that would never happen***
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May 18, 2023, 8:03 AM
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Not comparable.
May 18, 2023, 8:05 AM
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In today's lesson, Keowee learns the difference between private and public sector.
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money managers that make poor investments based solely on
May 18, 2023, 8:40 AM
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ESG won't keep their jobs long, because their performance won't be competitive. I can't see banning even the choice to consider ESG if they want. Current policy doesn't require investment guys to consider or buy ESG choices.
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Thus, the free market works and doesn't need...
May 18, 2023, 10:21 AM
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Any knee-jerk moves by pseudo-conservatives.
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How is it a "free market" when multi-$Trillion investment
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May 18, 2023, 11:25 AM
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funds are weighting their portfolios and consequently their holdings of particular stocks based on acquiescence to ESG...?
That's just a new breed of nuanced crony capitalism.
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it's free market because investment funds can choose if
May 18, 2023, 12:08 PM
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they want to include ESG holdings in their portfolio OR NOT, and investors can choose to invest in portfolios that include ESG holdings OR NOT.
Some investors may think it's a good strategy to invest in ESG, so having the OPTION to do so in their retirement plan seems OK to me, more choice is more better.
What Biden vetoed was a bill that would not allow the OPTION to invest is ESG stuff. Nobody is forcing anybody to invest in ESG.
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It's market manipulation by the likes of Larry Fink et al...
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May 18, 2023, 12:28 PM
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You can dance around it if you want to but if you want the truth, listen to some of his talks at Davos...
He's more about the New World Order than the US. FACT.
As I stated in another post, it's nuanced crony capitalism. Select 'big playas' dicktasting to the US on behalf of the rest of the world.
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oh well, I guess if the Fed Gov't going to take our 401k's
May 18, 2023, 12:58 PM
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anyway, it doesn't really matter.
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It is not true free mkt. Clever govt coercion is behind it
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May 18, 2023, 5:30 PM
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It’s not truly free market that ‘motivates’ fund managers from investing in securities which have an ESG component.
A truly free market ESG centric fund would build a fund that has some % (weighting) of not-coerced ESG companies’ stock in that fund &/or bonds from lenders who had offered lower-investment-grade loans to ESG borrowers &/or lower-than-market-rate loans to ESG centric borrowers.
This isn’t what’s happening.
Federal govt is motivating the large financial institutions into offering fiduciarily dubious ESG centric investments to both investors and borrowers. These large financial institutions utilize at least two forms of coercion to get companies which do business with the large financial institution in question:
(1). The large institution threatens to remove the not-ESG-compliant company’s stock from their stock index funds. Such an action reduces the liquidity of the non-ESG-compliant company’s stock; poorer liquidity = higher spread between the ‘bid’ vs ‘ask’ price in a stock transaction … this partially devalues the stock for the investor -&- makes the actual buy / sell transaction slower.
(2). The large institution swoops in on good companies which are in a market slump, buys a bunch of that company’s low priced stock, puts one (or a few) hand-picked new Board of Director members on that company’s board … and then uses pressure from the reconstituted Board of Directors to increase ESG types of practices at the company.
(???). What does the large financial institution get in return from the federal govt for being the govt’s proxy in pushing the ESG agenda? They get the equivalent of the TBTF (Too Big To Fail) bailout if / when times get very bad for all financial institutions.
TBTF status is incredibly valuable for a financial institution.
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Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street are the true 'big playas'.
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May 18, 2023, 8:10 PM
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Your explanation of the market manipulation is dead on... Of course, Gessler won't think of even taking a glance at it.
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I can't even count the times I've heard "Since 9/11" just
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May 18, 2023, 8:19 PM
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this week... Wake up, child. It was a coup. You just need to figure out who.
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Re: I can't even count the times I've heard "Since 9/11" just
May 19, 2023, 11:47 AM
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It's interesting you often cheer for government regulation from the same people you think destroyed the towers.
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Oh lawd
May 18, 2023, 10:16 AM
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You think preventing Congress from interfering with private enterprise is the same as a radical ### reparations bill?
Who's DAF now.
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You think ESG is not going to be used to determine which banks
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May 18, 2023, 10:38 AM
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fail and which ones get bailed out? That is the whole purpose. You actually think pension funds and 401ks are going to stay beyond gov’t reach?? It will not stop there as it will be every business: farming, retail, services, etc. EVERY gov’t contract. You think it can’t be done? SEE COVID.
We are fk’d; cause there are 100 million other idiots in America; just like you.
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Show me the legislation.***
May 18, 2023, 10:51 AM
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Get me a ticket to Davos.***
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Legislation not needed. Govt agencies do this w/o Congess
May 18, 2023, 5:51 PM
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Better than Keowee showing you the legislation … which neither exists nor is necessary, since the Treasury / Federal Reserve can decide without Congressional approval about which financial institutions get bailed out … let’s see an example of what happened.
You know, money talks … B.S. walks.
Woke SVB (Silicon Valley Bank) goes belly up in early March. US govt FDIC make whole the deposits from small depositors, according to the role of the FDIC. However, the Biden admin decides to ‘take care’ of their big money constituents (ESG and various other Dem policies are supported by many ESG depositors) also makes whole the deposits from big depositors.
This decision to make all of the SVB depositors whole (with the consequence being that the FDIC will have to dramatically raise the premiums for all banks with respect to cost for buying FDIC ‘insurance policy’) is in effect a political payout for a private entity that served as a proxy for the Democrat party in carrying out the Democrat party’s policy initiatives.
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Tell me what legislation in Congress mandated ESG?
May 18, 2023, 10:16 AM
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How dumb does someone have to be to think reparations would pass Congress?
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Re: Tell me what legislation in Congress mandated ESG?
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Quotas, reverse discrimination, minority lending, minority business grants…just to name a few.
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No, he's wrong.
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May 18, 2023, 9:04 AM
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Fox news reported accurately on leftist bullshittery.
My noting the report is no different than anyone citing a news item in here.
You are the one triggered by us noticing.
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Oh it's accurate
May 18, 2023, 10:17 AM
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It just isn't much of a story. Just a few radical grandstanders. But it sure worked in getting you fired up.
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And they conclude that all Democrats think this way
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and are conspiring to make all white people pay black people their hard-earned money.
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Reporting is "triggering"...? You're intellectually defunct.***
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Re: Fox News, LOL
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Dude...reparations are about the worst idea ever. You want to start a race war, I guarantee you that is absolutely the way to go about it.
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What twisted "logic" in the minds of these sick fools,
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where making assumptions about, or assigning blame or reward is contingent entirely upon race or skin color, all the while claiming to so bitterly oppose racism. Pure brainwashed, evil, dumb idiots.
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Re: What twisted "logic" in the minds of these sick fools,
May 18, 2023, 8:04 AM
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Seems fairly obvious they're just pandering for votes like a typical politician. They have to be superbly stupid to think this actually has a chance to pass.
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It may not pass, but it has a lot of support.
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May 18, 2023, 9:12 AM
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That degree of get-even racism should be alarming to all Americans. A recent UMASS study indicates that 86% of African-Americans, 64% of democrats, and 28% of white Americans support the idea of reparations. Pew has had similar findings in recent years. We have a lot of college professors, academics, and politicians pushing the idea. It's not just political, it's ideological, and has a lot of support on both fronts.
We will never solve or resolve racism, or combat it in any way with more racism, or pretending with absurd, convoluted logic that racism and racial discrimination aren't racism and racial discrimination simply because it helps accomplish some desired greater goal.
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Re: It may not pass, but it has a lot of support.
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Yup. You cannot retroactively redress the sins committed by people who are long-since dead by screwing over people who had absolutely no hand in that in the present. Anybody who thinks whites will just quietly acquiesce while the government reaches into their pockets and hands their money to someone of another race just because, well, white Americans are white...well, they're essentially handing organizations like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers the world's biggest Molotov cocktail. Are we trying to recruit three-quarters of white America to their cause?
This is an incredibly bad idea, one that's so bad it makes "Defund the Police" seem precious in comparison.
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Of course it's a bad idea, but academia, the Democrat party,
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May 18, 2023, 10:17 AM
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and a willing media have all promoted the idea by driving a victimhood narrative to the point that a sizeable portion of Americans have swallowed the nonsense, and not only justified the evil in their minds, but are demanding it. Look for those demands, and the deep, manufactured rage that divides us, to intensify as all sides dig in their heels.
We need leaders that can acknowledge and appropriately address the sins of the past and the inequities in today's America, without demoinizing America itself, and instead stress the underlying principles of freedom and individual rights which promise tremendous opportunity for all who lawfully play by the rules and cover the basics going forward, regardless of the past.
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The true instigators are on the sidelines 'banking' on it.***
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Wrong. It does have a lot of support.
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May 18, 2023, 10:39 AM
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86% of African-Americans and 28% of white Americans alone equals about 100 million peoiple. That's a LOT of people. Not enough to get it passed, which is not what I claimed, but a lot, which IS what I claimed. It's roughly one-third of Americans. That many Americans supporting this kind of crazy, blatantly evil nonsense is alarming.
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Nope, that's just over 50 million
May 18, 2023, 10:56 AM
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Based on black and white voters.
That article says over 70 percent of America opposes reparations. I'm not wrong, and it's not passing.
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The article I am referencing indicates that 36% of Americans
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May 18, 2023, 2:25 PM
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support reparations. With approximately 331 million Americans, that means we have about 119 million Americans who support reparations. That's a lot of people. Hayull, even if it were only 50 million, that is still a lot of people to be buying into such idiocy.
https://www.umass.edu/news/article/national-umass-amherst-poll-surveys-americans-views-race-antisemitism-and-great
And I don't know why in the world you keep arguing that it won't pass; I have never said it would. You have me confused with somebody else.
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First, we don't have 331 million voters
May 18, 2023, 2:57 PM
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You're lumping in all those 0-17 year olds.
Even still, your math isn't computing. Thirty six percent? That's nothing. IT'S. NOT. PASSING. The majority of Americans aren't letting that happen, unless somehow they vote in a massive majority to both houses of Congress and president who would do it.
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What a freaking idiot^^^***
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LOL, so I'm an idiot...
May 18, 2023, 3:21 PM
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Because I took at the ####### math (over 70 percent) of American votes who oppose reparations, the overwhelming Congressional numbers, and deduce that reparations won't pass while you look at, what, the minority numbers and a few random grandstanding Congressional nuts and think it actually will pass?
Wow, that's a pretty surprising response from you considering you can usually formulate some pretty well-thought out replies.
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No, here's why you are a freaking moron ...
May 18, 2023, 3:26 PM
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while you look at, what, the minority numbers and a few random grandstanding Congressional nuts and think it actually will pass?
Show me where I made that argument, you sack of #### ##########.
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Calm down, you petulant little angry child
May 18, 2023, 3:30 PM
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You came in here with bad math (EDIT: Like, you REALLY suck at math here) and replied to this comment:
"A very, very strong majority of Americans oppose the idea, so thus, that #### ain't passin'."
With:
"Wrong. It does have a lot of support."
So when I say it DOESN'T have majority support and that it isn't passing, and you reply with "Wrong. It does have a lot of support," I can't help but assume you think this thing could pass.
If that's not what you meant, then "Wrong. It does have a lot of support," was a stupid, stupid response.
Grow up, regardless of your age. ####### go outside and have a drink.
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#### you Catahoula. Your inability to read and comprehend
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resulted in you repeatedly misunderstanding and misrepresenting my position, and arguing a point that I never made.
Nothing whatsoever wrong with my math; it is entirely accurate based on the article I was referencing. If I am wrong, the article is wrong; I'm just going off of what they said. However, even if it is only 50 million, and not 119 million who support reparations, my point still stands 100% - A LOT of Americans support reparations, and that is alarming.
Now you go suck a donkey ####.
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Apparently you're the one who can't read.
May 18, 2023, 3:50 PM
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You tell me what you didn't understand here and what I was wrong about (I was even citing the data in the Fox News article of the OP):
"A very, very strong majority of Americans oppose the idea, so thus, that #### ain't passin'."
You tell me what I was wrong about here.
Or are you walking it back now and claiming I was right?
Notice how I didn't have to turn into a little screaming, name-calling child in this discussion. I TU you because you clearly need one today.
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You couldn't be a bigger fool if you tried.
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"A very, very strong majority of Americans oppose the idea, so thus, that #### ain't passin'."
You tell me what I was wrong about here.
Show me where I said that was wrong, fool.
I'll wait.
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????????????? Nowhere in there did I say or even suggest
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that this statement of yours was wrong:"A very, very strong majority of Americans oppose the idea, so thus, that #### ain't passin'."
If you can find where I disputed that, show the exact quoute, instead of linking to a post which does not contain it. Another fail, and I'm still waiting.
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Re: ????????????? Nowhere in there did I say or even suggest
May 18, 2023, 4:24 PM
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Buddy, you failed a long time ago in this thread when you started pitching a fit and screaming "idiot!" You'd have been laughed out of the room a long time ago. Clearly I caught you on a bad day because usually you don't behave this childishly. Go get some fresh air.
Let me know if you need help working a calculator next time.
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It's okay to be wrong - it happens to all of us.
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May 18, 2023, 4:42 PM
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It's better to admit it, and that you can't provide the evidence to support your argument, than to chicken out and trying to make it look like you are taking the high road.
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Re: It's okay to be wrong - it happens to all of us.
May 18, 2023, 6:29 PM
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You gave me the high road long ago in this thread. I didn't have to take anything.
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Keep dodging.
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I guess I would too if I couldn't face the truth.
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Oh, I've kinda shifted into...
May 19, 2023, 7:46 AM
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Just complete mockery mode now. You stepped on your #### in this thread and looked pretty stupid. Had you been an adult and just said, "Hey, bruh, I'm not arguing this and I think you're misunderstanding me" (even though your "Wrong" post says otherwise), we'd have worked it out. Instead, you looked like a spurting child.
And you really suck at basic math.
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Still dodging, and looking like an even bigger fool.
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May 19, 2023, 10:00 AM
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Taking the old "now I'm mocking you" dodge. It's not working.
"Had you been an adult and just said, "Hey, bruh, I'm not arguing this and I think you're misunderstanding me" (even though your "Wrong" post says otherwise), we'd have worked it out."
#########. That's exactly what I did. I repeatedly pointed it out very directly and calmly. You either ignored it, or were too freaking ignorant and arrogant to read and comprehend it. I tried over and over to no avail. That's the whole point which you are still, after all of this, dodging, deflecting, and too little of a man to admit.
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Re: Still dodging, and looking like an even bigger fool.
May 20, 2023, 1:14 AM
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This reminds me, Smiling Tiger® (so you don't dodge it) of the two times you "accidentally" posted political #### on the Lunge and got called out hard on it. Instead of an, "oops, my bad," you double downed like a little baby to justify why you did it and how it somehow applies.
Which is what all of you who "accidentally" post political #### on the Lunge do (notice how no one "accidentally" posts t!ttty pics, Wordle, restaurant talk, Korean over easy egg drama, etc. on the P&R board? Yeah): y'all are starved for attention and think you won't get the audience you want/need on here, so you pretend you didn't mean to post it on the Lunge when you really did.
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Now you're just desperately making wild accusations for
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May 20, 2023, 7:08 AM
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more claims you can't support, in a continued pathetic attempt to deflect, insteaf of addressing the issue.
In my very first response to you in this thread, I acknowledged that the reparations proposal may not pass: "It may not pass, but it has a lot of support." Then in your response, you immediately focused on the idea that it would not pass, even though I had not claimed that it would, nor did I at any point thereafter claim or even suggest it would. Instead, I repeatedly pointed out that I had never made such a claim. Yet, you continued to argue as if I had.
You were wrong. Demonstrably, objectively wrong. Here for all to see.
My only point in all of this was that the idea of reparations has a lot of support, and that is disturbing. NOT ENOUGH SUPPORT TO PASS, AT THIS POINT (as I said repeatedly, all along), but still a lot of support. Whether it's 1/3 of all Americans (as the article I referenced simply said "Americans", and did not specify any particular subset of Americans), or 1/3 of registered voters, or 1/3 of those who actually voted, it's still in the tens of millions. Again, for the slow ones out there like you, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH SUPPORT TO PASS THE BILL, BUT IT'S TENS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS. I find it very troubling, whether you consider that "a lot" or not, that that many Americans have been brainwashed and duped into supporting such a racist, twisted, dangerous, stupid idea.
I'm happy to leave it there - exactly where I started, and where I was the entire time.
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Re: Now you're just desperately making wild accusations for
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May 20, 2023, 11:30 AM
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Beating Cat in an argument is easy.
You’ll never outlast him, though.
He wins the ‘argument participation trophy’ by posting more arguments than you.
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What's sad about your childish display
May 22, 2023, 7:56 AM
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Is that you and I actually agree on reparations, but you got mad when corrected on your numbers after you said I was "wrong".
No, that's not a lot of people when compared to America's overall population. Again, bad math.
So you fabricated something stupid--this argument--because you wanted an argument so badly even though you and I agree on the same overall topic. Let me know when you can return to the ways of having a discussion like an adult.
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I see you have not come to accept that we live in clown
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world yet. We're banning gas stoves and ICE cars, we're letting violent criminals skate while simultaneously cracking down on law abiding citizens on several different fronts....this is not the long shot that you want to believe it is.
The mistake you make is thinking it has to pass, this administration(and Democrats in general) clearly DGAF about "passing" anything, they'll act first and deal with the legal blowback later.
Now I'm not suggesting it's going to happen right now, or even at all...but to give it no chance is being naive considering what else has transpired under this administration, and under democrat/progressive rule in general.
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Re: I see you have not come to accept that we live in clown
May 18, 2023, 3:23 PM
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I've been listening to the reparations ######## talk since you were still in Pullups. It was grandstanding ######## then. It's grandstanding ######## now. America doesn't want it and it won't pass in Congress.
They can't even get enough DEMOCRAT support to pass it let alone Pubs and Independents.
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This is not the same world it was when I was in pull-ups
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May 18, 2023, 3:39 PM
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Pandering to the black community has been put on steroids the past few years, nothing would shock me at this point.
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It really hasn't
May 18, 2023, 3:41 PM
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That pandering was just as strong then. Do you remember even Chappelle making fun of reparations on his show back in 2003?
Either way, based on the numbers, this isn't going to happen.
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He also had a skit making fun of the idea of a black white
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May 18, 2023, 3:56 PM
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supremacist, and now we live in a world where we're told that kind of person actually exists.
This is also how progressives operate, they'll start throwing out these ideas and warming the public up to them. At first nobody will think it's actually going to happen, but as time goes on the $$ demanded will get smaller, people will start to get on board, and before you know it boom you got some form of reparation.
Remember, we're talking about a govt. that tried to give out relief funds based on race during covid, I bet you never thought that would happen in 2003 either.
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Meh, I'm not really concerned
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May 18, 2023, 4:02 PM
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Again, this is a tired song and dance by a few Dems who try to rally up the black vote. America still adamantly opposes it, and even the Dems in Congress know it would be a disaster. I mean, sure, I guess I can't say NEVER because anything can happen, but I know where I'm putting my money down in Vegas based on the past 30 years. But sure, I'll grant it that anything is possible given who knows what.
Thanks for having a civil disagreement unlike some folks here.
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Whether it passes or not, the problem is that we have
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tens of millions of Americans who support it. 38% of Americans according to the UMASS poll I referenced above.
For some reason, an idiot in this thread keeps responding to me with the argument that it won't pass ... which is strange because I have repeatedly pointed out to him that I have never argued that it would. I am simply pointing out that it is disturbing that so many Americans unashamedly support government discrimination (and reward) based soley on race.
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Pew, a far better source...
May 18, 2023, 3:45 PM
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Has the support reparations at 30 percent.
Okay, so boo hoo, you don't like that this many people support it. That's still a minority.
I said earlier in the thread that there isn't enough support for it, so it's not passing. You replied, again, with "Wrong."
You tell me how I'm supposed to determine your views on that since I'm apparently so stupid.
I think you just suck at communication, but maybe I'm wrong there, too.
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You are dumb as a fence post ...
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May 18, 2023, 4:04 PM
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I posted: It may not pass, but it has a lot of support.
you responded According to the article, it doesn't...A very, very strong majority of Americans oppose
the idea, so thus, that #### ain't passin'.
At least 1/3 of Americans support reparations according to the article I referenced, whether it's 50 million or 100 million, it's still a lot of people, so I was correct in that it does have a lot of support. And once again, for some reason you were arguing that it did not have enough support to pass, which was irrelevant to my point.
So, I correctly responded Wrong. It does have a lot of support.
If you can calm down and read, my point and my views are crystal clear in this thread. Your inability to read and comprehend are the only problem here.
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That's not "a lot" of support
May 18, 2023, 4:10 PM
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When you are on the opposite side of 70 percent! So no, my statement still stands and your reply was dumb.
Hell, you think all 331 million Americans are of voting age and you can't even properly calculate percentages/simple addition in this thread. Who's the dumb ### now?
So you suck at reading, math, and social studies. For fuck's sake, let's not talk chemistry.
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You stupidity and ignorance is impressive.
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May 18, 2023, 4:38 PM
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While you're trying to dig up where I disputed your ealier statemnt, which does not exist and drove a repeated counter argument from you, try to dig up one where I said there were 331 million Americans of voting age. The article I was quoting only mentioned "Americans", not "Americans of voting age", so that's exactly what I went by. In no way did I want to distort the poll results or the conclusions of those who conducted the poll.
If you want voting age Americans only, according to The Federal Register, there were over 256 million Americans of voting age in 2020. So using that figure, and based on the accuracy of the poll I was referencing, there would be about 92 million Americans of voting age who support reparations (36%). That's a significant number. And again, for the 10th time, I never, ever said it would pass.
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Re: You stupidity and ignorance is impressive.
May 18, 2023, 4:42 PM
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The article I was quoting only mentioned "Americans", not "Americans of voting age", so that's exactly what I went by. In no way did I want to distort the poll results or the conclusions of those who conducted the poll.
You're right; they probably polled a #### ton of two year olds and middle school kids on this issue.
If you want voting age Americans only, according to The Federal Register, there were over 256 million Americans of voting age in 2020. So using that figure, and based on the accuracy of the poll I was referencing, there would be about 92 million Americans of voting age who support reparations (36%). That's a significant number. And again, for the 10th time, I never, ever said it would pass.
Except only 154 million voted in 2020, and if you take 30 percent of that (we'll go with the better Pew numbers), that's 46 million. Your argument and your math suck.
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A lot of people, at least 46 million, support reparations.
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May 18, 2023, 4:59 PM
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That's among people who voted. Throw in people who are registered and didn't vote for one reason or another, and Americans who are not registered, and it's obviously much more than that.
That's a lot of people - a lot of Americans who support this insanity.
Not nearly enough to get it passed, which was never my argument. Still waiting for you to provide some evidence for that lie.
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Re: A lot of people, at least 46 million, support reparations.
May 18, 2023, 6:29 PM
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Keep dodging and deflecting.
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May 18, 2023, 10:47 PM
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That's all you've got.
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It will pass. 5 years ago if I would have asked you what
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a woman was, you would have no problem answering that question. Now maybe you can answer that question but many that lean as far left as you do cannot answer that question.
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No, for the love of baby Jesus, it won't.
May 18, 2023, 11:11 AM
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This reparations ######## has been pushed for decades. It has neither the majority support of Congress nor the American people.
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Re: No, for the love of baby Jesus, it won't.
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The big problem with all of your efforts to poo poo the discussion about the growing popularity of ESG (which includes reparations in its agenda) isn’t that the bill won’t pass.
Yet.
The problem is that a terrible political narrative, along with terrible policy proposals to support the political narrative, is being implicitly supported by those who keep repeating ‘there’s nothing to worry about … look elsewhere.’
Catahoula®, it is obvious that your argumentative tactic is to divert attention from the growing danger that radical ESG-ism poses for the country.
The Democrat party has transferred great wealth from productive components of the economy and dispensed that wealth to the race baiters, employees & managers of govt institutions, universities, public school systems, and contractors to the federal govt. The ESG initiatives will offer yet another enormous opportunity for the politically connected to skim reparation payouts as part of the ‘administrative costs’ of getting the money disbursed. It is no surprise that the majority of Democrat party politicians support ESG programs.
What is your motivation for being so passionate in your support of ESG initiatives … as evidenced by your remorseless efforts to divert others’ attention away from the growing popularity of ESG?
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The usual long-winded, nonsensical RTD reply
May 19, 2023, 7:44 AM
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Catahoula®, it is obvious that your argumentative tactic is to divert attention from the growing danger that radical ESG-ism poses for the country.
No, it's not, because that's not relative to the discussion. Here's my "tactic": It's to point out that RPMcMurphy is fragile and easily duped by Fox News over a non-issue. That's it.
What is your motivation for being so passionate in your support of ESG initiatives … as evidenced by your remorseless efforts to divert others’ attention away from the growing popularity of ESG?
Nowhere did I show support for this. You and Smiling Tiger must have attended the same high school.
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Speaking of long-winded and nonsensical, you still haven't
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admitted you were wrong and owned it like a man for the following laughable mistake: You claimed that I disputed the following...
"A very, very strong majority of Americans oppose the idea, so thus, that #### ain't passin".
I never even suggested otherwise, yet you repeatedly argued as if I had, ignoring my attempts to point it out. I acknowledged from the start that it had little chance of passing, and that was irrelevant to my point, but you persisted with the childish, idiotic responses which completely ignored what I actually said. So, I am still waiting for you to be a man, be honest, or keep dodging and deflecting.
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Re: Fox News, LOL
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Racist scumbags, every one of them. There's a reason the left replaced racism with white supremacy in their lingo and it's because their party is full of non white racists. Can't really keep whining about racism when you have the most racist representatives in Congress. Better to change the language and pretend its those mean old white supremacists who are the problem. You gotta be white, or at least Hispanic, to get slapped with that label. Let's all the Democrat racists and anti semites off scot free.
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Hate to say it but "Swing and a miss"... Look to the origins***
May 17, 2023, 9:38 PM
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Meh...Whats $14 Trillion amongst African Friends?***
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Re: Fox News, LOL
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The country can not afford such a stupid and racist spending. But it’s not about that. Reparations will be a theme to shore up a really dumb voting block.
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Yep, that's pretty much the size of it...
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they know there isn't a chance that this would ever pass...but there are enough people that think it will/want a hand out.
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Re: Yep, that's pretty much the size of it...
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Similar to the college debt carrot they hung in front of them in the midterms. All about the timing of the carrot.
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Here we go
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May 18, 2023, 5:52 PM
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Let's watch them all try to out-woke each other.
"We should give them $5M"
"No, we must give them $10M each"
and fold in
Biden "If you don't vote for me you aint black"
for the complete lunacy all this is.
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