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For our resident rightwingers who think the Jan. 6
Jun 17, 2022, 12:38 PM
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investigations are ONLY about what happened on Jan. 6, let's walk through the grassroots Qanon-based effort to actually hijack elections and election results at the local and state levels. This has been around for multiple years, but gained a TON of traction after the 2020 election. An example of it already happening is New Mexico Republicans refusing to certify their election because the "don't trust the Dominion voting machines". Don't need any sort of proof, you just need to be in power, and you can make up any excuse you like.
Here's the (imo) biggest threat so far, and it certainly won't be the last. Doug Mastriano, GOP governor candidate in PA, has said, and repeated, in no uncertain terms, what he will do if the Republican candidate, Trump, DeSantis, or otherwise, doesn't win PA.
Mastriano has embraced the possibility of getting to overturn an election, saying he already has a secretary of state picked out (he has declined to say who). “I get to appoint the secretary of state, who is delegated from me the power to make the corrections to elections, the voting logs and everything. I could decertify every machine in the state with the stroke of a pen,” he said in a March radio interview.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/20/doug-mastriano-pennsylvania-republican-governor-trump
If anybody, on EITHER side of the political fence, believes this is acceptable, then you are an enemy of democracy. Feel free to either condemn or support this. I can already name the 5-6 posters who are going to be on board with what Mastriano is planning to do, because they're that shortsighted--same ones who would lose their minds if a Democrat said they were going to do the same thing.
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Re: For our resident rightwingers who think the Jan. 6
Jun 17, 2022, 12:53 PM
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All,
Sign up for a great newsletter, or donate. And as always, thank your support and God Bless America: https://www.doug4gov.com/
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Heisman Winner [137789]
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^^^Exhibit A
Jun 17, 2022, 12:55 PM
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This is perfectly acceptable in your deranged opinion, yes?
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Re: ^^^Exhibit A
Jun 17, 2022, 1:00 PM
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he is talking about fraud and not "accepting" it. But, I know your "hate trumpists" quotes never have context.
You know what happens when you decertify all of the voting machines? You have to manually count and certify with poll watchers present from all sides. Sounds like a solid plan to me.
Penn royally fkd themselves the last time around, and broke their own laws in the name of "covid".
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^^^Exhibit B
Jun 17, 2022, 1:01 PM
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Got about 4 more fascism authoritarian fans to go to complete my prediction.
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Re: For our resident rightwingers who think the Jan. 6
Jun 17, 2022, 12:56 PM
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It's not acceptable. With statements like that, Mastriano won't win and if he were to win and pulled such a stunt, the PA Supreme Court would certainly overrule him.
Speaking of the PA Supreme Court, they created an environment of mistrust by essentially making new election laws rather than rendering an opinion on the PA laws. They've created a very sloppy situation, but Mastriano is of course nuts to even think of doing what he proposes.
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Heisman Winner [137789]
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Correct.
Jun 17, 2022, 12:57 PM
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Now, look at the reply just above yours.
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How many have actually condemned the effort?
Jun 17, 2022, 1:01 PM
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1? 2? 3?
The overwhelming majority of this forum is right wingers and they overwhelmingly defend the corruption to this very day and would have been fine had the effort succeeded.
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rons1 just did, and I commend him for it.
Jun 17, 2022, 1:04 PM
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The predictable posters are lining up accordingly, though.
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There's 1.***
Jun 17, 2022, 1:05 PM
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Re: How many have actually condemned the effort?
Jun 17, 2022, 1:08 PM
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Nobody in there right mind takes you Liberal Drama Queens seriously.
Why don't y'all just get together and dance in a circle under the moonlight or sumpn?
Such self righteous indignation! OH MY!!!
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Re: How many have actually condemned the effort?
Jun 17, 2022, 1:10 PM
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The effort to what? What corruption is there "if" the voting machines aren't trusted and a state resorts to a manual recount with all parties present? That sounds like democracy.
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Oh, for sure.
Jun 17, 2022, 1:13 PM
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If you don't like the results, just recount until you get the result you're looking for.
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Re: Oh, for sure.
Jun 17, 2022, 1:31 PM
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NICE DEFLECTION!! YOU'RE A MASTER!! CONGRATS.
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Re: Oh, for sure.
Jun 17, 2022, 2:35 PM
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If you don't like the results, just recount until you get the result you're looking for.
^^^^
Cooky conspiracy theorist.
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I only come up with 3 right wingers who have condemned the
Jun 17, 2022, 1:17 PM
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attack and the effort to overturn the election.
Are there more than that?
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Re: I only come up with 3 right wingers who have condemned the
Jun 17, 2022, 1:37 PM
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OK, it took Hellery 3 years to say that about Trump. Trump said Biden was not legitimate 6 months before the election(i.e. the only way I lose is if the election is rigged/stolen) and says it every time he speaks and God, I would think even y'all would have to be sick of hearing him whine like a 2 year old child. Which person has done/is doing more damage to our country with these statements?
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Re: I only come up with 3 right wingers who have condemned the
Jun 17, 2022, 1:44 PM
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Don’t defend her. It’s almost as bad as defending Trump with a Hillary whatabout.
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Re: I only come up with 3 right wingers who have condemned the
Jun 17, 2022, 2:47 PM
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Don't defend the false equivalence.
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Re: I only come up with 3 right wingers who have condemned the
Jun 17, 2022, 2:00 PM
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I condemn the attack and the effort to overturn the election.
However, I view the attack as minimal and not a real "attack." You can't stage an attack with zero weapons. Plus we do not know how much leftists (maybe even FBI plants) played a part in initiating the event. Regardless, I condemn the people that joined in.
I condemn any attempted illegal activity to overturn the election.
I do not condemn Trump or anyone else for investigating what their legal options are to try to halt, certify, or overturn an election. I do not condemn someone asking a question about doing something illegal, being told it is illegal, and not having it done as a major problem.
I do not condemn Trump for stating the obvious - that the election was turned due to the CORRUPTION that exists between democrats, MSM, and social media.
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Hall of Famer [22381]
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They've done a good job of showing Trump knew he lost
Jun 17, 2022, 2:39 PM
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legitimately. Not that that fact should come as a surprise to any rational human being.
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I must have missed the “let the sycophant keep the official
Jun 17, 2022, 3:21 PM
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Tally” decision.
I don’t know of anyone who hasn’t condemned Jan 6th, myself included.
The problem is that guys like you can’t handle anyone who doubts whether the actions of a few hundred zealot morons that day actually endangered the existence of our republic.
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That's it in a nutshell. Our republic was never in danger.
Jun 17, 2022, 3:39 PM
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If those nutjobs had strung Pence up that day, Americans, with the exception of a handful of crazies, would never have supported that. If Pence had failed to certify the election, again, most Americans and most elected officials would have refused to stand for that as well, and Trump would have been forced out in short order. Our process worked, and there was ZERO chance a relative handful of crazies, even if they had "succeeded" in their "mission", was going to overturn the election and turn power over to Trump. It just doesn't work that way.
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Re: That's it in a nutshell. Our republic was never in danger.
Jun 17, 2022, 4:03 PM
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The real problem Trump presented has three words: the Emergency Powers Act.
Once invoked, it gives Trump (or any president) a laundry list of powers suddenly available to him. Some of them are astoundingly obscure..."The secretary of the Interior may close Fort McHenry, and it may be used for military purposes"...but others have way, way more teeth. "President may appoint any qualified person to any officer grade in the Army, Air Force, Navy, or Marine Corps"...and then of course appoint them interim head of whatever military unit he wanted. (Trump did like his "interim" tags, it made people easier to fire and reassign.)
It goes on and on. There's 136 separate powers delineated in the Emergency Powers Act, some of them dramatically expanding the power of the office. The real irony, of course, is that a bent president can potentially declare a State of Emergency for an emergency he himself created, which appears to have been the intention here.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/guide-emergency-powers-and-their-use
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But we’ve been assured that couldn’t possibly
Jun 17, 2022, 4:16 PM
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happen in this country. So clearly, nothing to worry about.
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So, what you're saying, is that any president going forward
Jun 17, 2022, 4:47 PM
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could declare an emergency on the last day before election, and essentially nullify the election, take over the country and never relinquish power. Sounds like a terrible idea without some safeguards in place.
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C'mon, man
Jun 18, 2022, 4:17 PM
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Tigermanac was cheering it on in real time and later said he had hoped it had succeeded. CharlestonTom said he wished they had succeeded in killing politicians. Clemson Mountaineers is still on here claiming the election was stolen. Others say they condemn it "but but but..." and fill in something absurd after it, like saying they understood where they're coming from.
Why ain't you ever callin' that #### out?
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I condemned the Jan 6 violence from the start.
Jun 17, 2022, 4:29 PM
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I voted for Trump, not because I loved Trump, but because I felt he was the best choice. I still do, but I now realize our choice was two absolute turds. Any good feelings I had about Trump really started to fade when it became apparent that he lost the election but would not accept it. After the way he behaved on Jan 6 I was done. I totally condemn Trump's words, attitudes, and actions with regards to failing to take his loss like a man and lead by ensuring a smooth, peaceful transition of power.
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Re: For our resident rightwingers who think the Jan. 6
Jun 17, 2022, 1:43 PM
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great, goddam### Quakers will be storming the capital in harrisburg, this is not good.
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Not a good thing
Jun 17, 2022, 1:52 PM
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There are several things that could be changed with a stroke of the pen, but that's beside the point here. Just because you can doesn't mean you should
It's one thing if he thinks it and a completely different thing to say
Shouldn't be thinking nor saying
Count me on the condemn side as that would be total insanity to actually follow through with
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I like how the people who want to make sure votes are
Jun 17, 2022, 1:57 PM
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legitimate are "enemies of democracy." lol
Commies are so crazy.
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I need to get on their talking pt email list
Jun 17, 2022, 2:03 PM
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There's that phrase again. It's the new racist, they use it for everything
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Re: For our resident rightwingers who think the Jan. 6
Jun 17, 2022, 2:03 PM
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Man, just read the article...
You people are drama queens. Show me a video of Mastriano talking about this and I'll watch it, and we will both be amazed at what he is not saying as compared to what the article says.
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Here's a complete 2020-2021 Mastriano timeline,
Jun 17, 2022, 2:11 PM
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with links to all the stuff he shared, videos, quotes, and more. He's telling you exactly who he is, what he plans to do, and how he plans to do it, and naturally...it's no big deal, because he plays for your team. Again, if a Democrat layed all of this out, you're either perfectly fine with it, or your a partisan hypocrite. That's rhetorical, since we all know which one you are.
https://whyy.org/articles/doug-mastriano-election-lies-disinformation-jan-6/
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Re: For our resident rightwingers who think the Jan. 6
Jun 17, 2022, 2:33 PM
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Did you know that the dominion voting machines being hacked and switching votes was a huge talking point by Democrats including Pocahontas and klobachur well before the 2020 election?
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Heisman Winner [137789]
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So....that's your argument.
Jun 17, 2022, 3:28 PM
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The governor's singular ballot that wasn't dropped off personally. A procedural issue. Not fraud in any fashion, just...his wife dropping off his ballot for him. And I don't disagree that to the letter of the law, it's not technically legal, but this is what your argument hinges on? What should we do? Throw him in jail?
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