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Re: Follow up to Cata's post earlier ... what defines "extreme"

Feb 8, 2023, 4:27 PM [ in reply to Re: Follow up to Cata's post earlier ... what defines "extreme" ]

Abortion ban. Stupid.

Agreed. Fortunately the vast majority of republicans do not support a total abortion ban, so that's not a mainstream republican idea. I don't think that some limitations on abortion are extreme/kooky at all.

To a greater extent marrying the party to the religious right. Stupid.

Agree totally. Thank goodness most republicans think religion should be kept separate from government policies as well. And I would say that expecting ones beliefs and values (including religious ones) to be reflected in government is perfectly normal, and acceptable, and is not the same as "marrying religion to government".

Of the 147 congressmen who did not vote to certify Bidens election…118 house reps and 8 senators are still in office and official election deniers. These people are kooks.

This may be my biggest problem with republicans. No excuses here in my mind - this was ill-advised at best, and nothing more than political posturing in support of a bogus, dangerous cause.

Acceptance of political violence. If the mob would’ve gotten a hold of Pence or Pelosi…they would be dead now. Just phukkin stop it. Don’t support anyone who downplays Jan 6. Quit giving any credence to militia group..it’s insane that anyone thinks proud boys, or any of those biker gangs without bikes groups, are acceptable.

I denounce anybody's support of Proud Boys or any malitia group who participated in Jan 6 violence, or any other such violence or illegal activities. I'm sure that some elected republicans have not denounced them strongly enough to satisfy many, but I hardly think violent malitia groups have the support of mainstream republicans.

Blaming everything on the left. US needs two parties y’all. Just quit it.

Yep. I would add "seeing everything through a partisan political/ideological lens" ... Are those democrat shoes? That's clearly a republican car. Typical democrat food. etc., etc.

Some others have pointed out some Dem extremism - what do you think?

White Supremacy is our biggest threat.

I agree that certain militia/hate groups are motivated by white supremacy, and that they do pose a real danger to some extent. However, their number are extremely small, and in the big picture, of all of the problems we have in America, white supremacy is wayyyyy down the list. Kooky. Yet, this gets a huge push from many prominent, mainstream democrats.

Reparations.

Extreme and totally kooky. Yet again, this is strongly embraced by many mainstream democrats.

Defunding police.

In some form of fashion, this actually happened in many democrat controlled cities. Kooky. Extreme.

Gender identity and "men can have babies".

Personally, I believe anyone is free to identify however they choose. With rare possible exceptions, I will respect their chosen identiy. No one, however, should be forced to concede that, as a matter of fact, a person born with a peanus and x and y chromosomes can menstruate or have children, or is in fact, a woman. I believe there are real, significant differences between male and female, and feelings don't change it. I think most democrats agree, but there are an alarming number who say otherwise, and that is the ultimate extreme, kooky, insanity.

I am a white male baby boomer who was raised in a middle-class conservative Christian environment. Along with that comes some inevitable, built-in biases. I admit that up front, and I don't apologize for it.

The main problem I see with mainstream republicans is those who stood with Trump in his ridiculous claims of a stolen election, and have since failed to walk that back or denounce it. Yet, I see a lot of things accepted or embraced or accepted by mainstrean dems that seem kooky and extreme. Just my admittedly biased view.

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In my view, right wing extremists are exemplified by the nuts who stormed the capitol. Those are the ones who want revolution and dead people, using your words. I was born, raised and worked all of my life with conservative Christian working class gun-loving commie-hating people. They are mostly anti-government, and they live their lives and work their plan accordingly. Sure, conservatives work through traditional government channels to have their voices heard, but not the revolution-seeking extremists we are talking about here. They are anti-government, and are working outside the government to prepare for what they believe is inevitable. I know a couple who have acculated guns and ammo and have a "plan" for when the shid hits the fan, so I know they exist. I also know their numbers are very small.

Left-wing extremists, however, seek to affect change primariy through government power and authority, by attempting to normalize extreme ideas through control of media and the education system. They are much more likely to use civil unrest and protest as opposed to militia dressed up in camo and playing soldier; rather, they will have the government to carry out the force and violence on their behalf.

That's the way I see the extremes of each party. One remains on the fringe, while the other is becoming more and more embedded in government.

Follow up to Cata's post earlier ... what defines "extreme"

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Okay:

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The energy sector is the Dems' only transgressions...?

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And here's one of em

Extreme policy

Now do the analysis in terms of existential risk

Equal

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I don’t see it as remotely close to even

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