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Starting salary list
Mar 5, 2020, 7:07 AM
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Anyone got a good starting salary list? Trying to help my smart, yet unmotivated son figure out what to do.
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What is he interested in?***
Mar 5, 2020, 7:11 AM
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" yet unmotivated son"
Mar 5, 2020, 7:15 AM
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He doesn't know.
Makes straight A's, but doesn't have a clue what he wants to do. He's a junior. Clock is ticking.
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Gender studies is a good major. He can get a degree and
Mar 5, 2020, 7:24 AM
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a job in Social Media Influencing.
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I think we are paying new Civil Engineering grads nearly
Mar 5, 2020, 7:25 AM
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$60k out of school.
I started at $45k 15 years ago
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Thats jumped a lot here lately
Mar 5, 2020, 9:28 AM
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I only made $48k out of school in 2013. But these other mega firms seem to be starting higher.
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School Teachers make in the mid 30's I think and only
Mar 5, 2020, 7:26 AM
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have to work for part of the year but one of the job requirements is to complain about how much extra you work during the school year and over the weekends.
hehehehehe
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NFL Minimum Salary is $495k. Has he thought of being a
Mar 5, 2020, 7:27 AM
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football star?
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Heisman Winner [105464]
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NBA is $838,464. That seems twice as good as Football.
Mar 5, 2020, 7:27 AM
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Does he basketball?
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I sometimes beat him at 1 on 1.
Mar 5, 2020, 7:34 AM
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So that's a NO.
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NHL is $750k+***
Mar 5, 2020, 7:43 AM
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I would put all my eggs in that basket. ***
Mar 5, 2020, 7:43 AM
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Does he play video games? Hunt? Fish?
Mar 5, 2020, 7:28 AM
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Play a sport?
Whatever it is that he's interested in, find something in that field. Don't worry about salary. If he's interested in it and truly loves doing it, he will create his own salary in time. Tell him to find a way to help people doing something he loves. That's all he needs to do.
If you just shop for a job based on salary, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
But usually if someone loves doing something, they also know exactly what is missing, or would be better, or more helpful/useful. That's the dream you follow. If he's into gaming, what is something he wishes video game producers would create? I mean as you go through life thinking about things you wish existed, but don't, then someone does it, and it becomes lucrative....happens all the time.
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Not so much shopping just based on salary...
Mar 5, 2020, 7:37 AM
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But a list is a list. Starting point to talk about.
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I'd start with playing to his interests, then his academic
Mar 5, 2020, 8:17 AM
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areas he is best in and enjoys the most. Then grab a list of related jobs/fields and salaries.
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FinTech.
Mar 5, 2020, 9:21 AM
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Learn programming and quantitative math.
or
Jiz Mopper
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Get into ML, AI, Deep Learning, Data Science***
Mar 5, 2020, 7:23 PM
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5 years from that'll all be "what"?***
Mar 6, 2020, 5:10 PM
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Re: Starting salary list
Mar 5, 2020, 7:42 AM
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$10,000
$20,000
$30,000
$40,000
$50,000
$60,000
$70,000
$80,000
$90,000
$100,000
Also, starting salaries can be between those numbers. And possibly higher than $100, but not too likely.
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Hall of Famer [20569]
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LOL
Mar 5, 2020, 7:43 AM
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Shut up
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Engineering
Mar 5, 2020, 7:45 AM
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Mech or Elec consulting. We start at $65k and $100k within 5 years is feasible.
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I started teaching him ACAD when he was 10
Mar 5, 2020, 7:49 AM
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and SolidWorks when he was 13 or so. He doesn't seem real interested in it. It's a shame. I could bring him to work and get him a good head start.
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Oculus Spirit [80997]
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Then everyone will know he's an engineer.
Mar 5, 2020, 10:06 AM
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Because he'll tell them.
A lot.
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Similar for CS
Mar 5, 2020, 7:25 PM
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son of well into 6 figures in that time
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All starting salaries for all jobs are right here
Mar 5, 2020, 8:05 AM
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One of the better resources our tax dollars pays for that few people know about.
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/ The Occupational Outlook Handbook is the government's premier source of career guidance featuring hundreds of occupations—such as carpenters, teachers, and veterinarians. Revised annually, the latest version contains employment projections for the 2018-28 decade.
I didn’t find pickle maker though Micallen
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If he's lazy he should be a PE teacher
Mar 5, 2020, 8:11 AM
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they don't do ####.
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They're too lazy to bang their own wifes.
Mar 6, 2020, 1:43 PM
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They have to rely on lowly public servants to do that for them.
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Sounds like a real good candidate to
Mar 5, 2020, 8:24 AM
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go to Community College for 2 years to get his gen ed out of the way (virtually free if he has good grades) while he co-ops and temps at a wide variety of jobs until something catches his interest.
Flo-Dar Tech should have a whole office dedicated to helping university transfer students get experience to help figure out what they want to do and if it was my kid, I’d encourage him to take the intro class in a wide variety of classes that are just good to know, auto mech, plumbing, carpentry, electrical, etc so he doesn’t have to pay others to fix stuff the rest of his life.
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Hard to beat a good sales job
Mar 5, 2020, 8:29 AM
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you can get into an area that you love and are passionate about, sell some good product and live a great life. Sales can then lead to marketing, product development...many other great paying jobs.
patience is the key in sales and I think a good strong retail background helps more in sales and getting a sales job than anything. Retail Management, buyer, salesman, field marketing....all pay good money. Retail is all about sticking to those terrible hours, knowing that the experience is going to take you almost anywhere you want to go. Just have to push through.
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My advice to him so far has been that if he never
Mar 5, 2020, 8:38 AM
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Figures out a major while in college, to major in business. I think that paves to way to a lot of career paths.
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Real talk, and what I tell all of my kids,
Mar 5, 2020, 8:40 AM
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if you don't know what you want to do, DON'T GO TO COLLEGE. Take your gen ed classes at FloDar. If you still don't know, go to work for a little while until you figure it out.
You don't want to be racking up 50K in debt in one year because you're taking classes that won't go to your finally decided major.
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He's taking a lot of general college classes now
Mar 5, 2020, 8:51 AM
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(through FMU). If he hasn't figured things out, he may do 1st 2 years there. Classes will transfer 100%.
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Re: He's taking a lot of general college classes now
Mar 5, 2020, 8:54 AM
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the people I know (SIL and my high school friends) that did the community college to "figure it out" and then onto college, never made it to college at all. They all got sucked into that waiter/waitress life and then thought food industry was for them, then after about 5-8 years of that, they realize its the #### life and had to start over with community college to try and get into college.
Only person I know that broke that life was my SIL. She finally graduated and had has her Master's, but she is now 32 (good job now) with no experience and trying to gain experience. Hard to overcome that lost 5-8 years.
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If you don't finish college because
Mar 5, 2020, 9:21 AM
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"food service is for you" you weren't going to graduate anyways.
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Re: My advice to him so far has been that if he never
Mar 5, 2020, 8:50 AM
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with business, you can always tack on extras like marketing, healthcare, supply chain management. All which are booming at this time.
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all business undergrad degrees, unless you:
Mar 6, 2020, 12:02 AM
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A) Know someone wealthy/important
B) finish top of your class, or
C) go on to get an MBA from a top school
Equal a career in sales.
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This might help...
Mar 5, 2020, 8:51 AM
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$3.50/hour for yard work at RH Tig's house. $5.25 and hour if he'd like to enroll in the Wiping Butler Trainee Program, guaranteed bump to $6.00 and hour once he passes the Wiping Butler exam.
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Doubt he'll give up his cushy $8/hour job for that
Mar 5, 2020, 8:53 AM
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But, if he were interested, how long before he moves up to fully decorated warlord?
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It takes years and years of concentrated brutality and a
Mar 5, 2020, 9:18 AM
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complete lack of regard for the sanctity of life. It's really more of a calling than a job you seek, and while it sounds like your kid is really smart, I'm just not getting the vibe from what you're telling me here that he is likely to embrace a lifetime of the bloodthirsty visitation of physical and mental horrors on his fellow man for little more than the sheer enjoyment of such depraved actions.
That said, he probably could rise as far as Wiping Butler Level III with some really deft attention to the work.
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Supply chain consulting
Mar 5, 2020, 8:51 AM
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was my first job. most of my buddies started in the 75k - 85k range circa 2014. mostly IEs, some CS majors.
buddies in oil n gas started in the 85k - 95k range (ChemEs and MEs)
good EE jobs were in the 80 - 90k range
one buddy in the nuclear field started around 100k, but he got his masters in nuclear engineering during the same time we all got our bachelor's. no offense, your son ain't that smart.
don't know what management majors started out as (prob mid/high 60s), and my school didn't offer anything else b/c #nerds
tech pushed a ton of people to the consulting farms here in atlanta (deloitte, accenture, pwc, cap, etc.) so idk how that payscale correlates to other cities and non-consulting gigs. consulting is fun while young and single. if he's not motivated, probably won't last very long though.
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Organized crime, politicians (disorganized crime), lawyers
Mar 5, 2020, 9:37 AM
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reality show persona and professional gamblers all have the potential to pay well but you need a little luck along the way.
Seriously as other have said, the young persons interests matter .... there are many honorable professions. The medical professions, engineering, finance / accounting, sales etc. all can provide reasonable salaries
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Legend [17248]
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BTW, the over / under for major changes in college is 1.5.
Mar 5, 2020, 9:42 AM
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Plan for it and don’t fret when it happens.
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Yeah, let's not encourage that path. We need less of those***
Mar 5, 2020, 9:55 AM
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One of my goodest pals was in law school, and we had a whole
Mar 5, 2020, 10:01 AM
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plan to have a major drug-smuggling operation, but it fell through when he couldn't be my bought and paid for crooked lawyer because he couldn't pass the bar exam. He really could have passed it because he's a brilliant guy, but he was a raging alcoholic during those years. He's better now though.
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Saul Good Man***
Mar 5, 2020, 10:02 AM
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I remind him every time I see him that he cheated me out of
Mar 5, 2020, 10:04 AM
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a luxurious criminal lifestyle of vast wealth and fast women.
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I feel your pain
Mar 5, 2020, 9:53 AM
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Son is senior in high school, sharp as a tack but is bored because nothing in high school really interests him and his grades are beginning to show it. Saying he wants to major in archaeology or anthropology, I'm like #####? He is really good in German, going there this summer after graduation. I keep telling him to major in business with a minor in German. We will see.
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With the growth of the 'Certified SC Grown' movement,
Mar 5, 2020, 9:54 AM
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it's a great time to get into cultivating and selling high grade marijuana in this state. Negate the risk of transporting from California or Colorado, and we really have a pretty good climate for it. I would recommend trying to find a plug to front him around 1/4 lbs. of quality stuff, and then start building his sales network.
Within the year he should have the cash to build out greenhouse space and buy quality seeds/equipment.
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That's what I wanted to do
Mar 5, 2020, 10:00 AM
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go to Clemson and get an ag degree. I think there are a few ag engineering opportunities that looked bad ###. Family squashed that idea.
All you people saying to do what interests you, all that ####. #### that. Go get paid. Hookers, boats, blow and f250s ain't free, and neither are wives and kids when you decide to grow up. Job market is tighter than a banjo string and anyone w/ half a pulse, can speak to people, and can crunch numbers will get paid. people who go into arts or some ######## major these days are soft. engineering or business majors can pretty much do anything out of college. can't build #### with some interpretation of picasso or understanding the sociological impact of long skirts.
bust your ### and make money early so you can chill later. then go paint or join some talk radio podcast making club when the economy no longer needs you.
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Wait..growing up is having wives and kids?
Mar 5, 2020, 10:02 AM
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Ohhh...so THAT'S what they are calling that these days.
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gotdang bo.....
Mar 6, 2020, 12:06 AM
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You’re spitting some straight truth there.
F this “do you find it interesting” stuff. You were born with natural talents. If you want to be successful, recognize them and capitalize on them, even if you find it boring. You won’t be bored long when you’re making phat bank and retiring at 50.
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Why are you getting the list together for him, you should
Mar 5, 2020, 1:22 PM
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make him do it.
I think that's a good place to start with the motivation.
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Re: Starting salary list
Mar 6, 2020, 4:59 PM
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I recommend Velvet Jones 'School of high paid hos.'
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Starting salary doesn’t matter...
Mar 6, 2020, 5:14 PM
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As much as a good work ethic. I started out of college making around 20k to sell wine For a tiny company w one salesman in Charleston (me) and a van driver w a storage unit for the wine, gave up a very good downtown Charleston serving job bc I didn’t want to get stuck in that cycle.
10 years later (and an MBA from Clemson) I have worked my way to director of a 40 million dollar revenue division.
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