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Factors for any CFP hopes moving forward


Sep 6, 2021, 2:54 AM

as bad as last night's loss stung, it's still early in the year and alot of football left. I feel that if the team can get back on track over the next couple weeks and end the month 3-1, we can get the momentum going to make another run through the ACC. Winning the ACC and making at least NY6 berth are still very reasonable goals, but I do feel a run for a 7th straight CFP berth got the brakes pumped on it with last night's loss and with how the ACC has performed this weekend, which will affect an already shaky perception of the league going into the year. The ACC is the only league outside the SEC that hasn't been left out of the CFP yet, but that might be on very shaky ground. If we slip or stumble anywhere else along the way, then Clemson/ACC is out. Our boys manage to run the table and finish the regular season with just this loss, then here are the factors that determine if we're playing in Dallas/Miami or not.


Unfortunately is probably gonna happen: 2 SEC teams get in. If you have 2 undefeated SEC teams going into SECCG, I definitely feel this will happen. I don't see anyone touching Bama this year, so we could about pencil them in unless something catastrophic happens with them. However, the SEC East hasn't been able to produce an unblemished division champ since '09 (Florida going into SECCG)...if a blemished SEC East champ is produced and gets beat by Bama in SECCG, then expect a SEC West team who's only loss is to Bama to be getting serious consideration if there is one at end of regular season. Even if Georgia drops 2 games, if final spot came down to them & us, the committee will probably give them the nod due to head-to-head result.

Most plausible route to help get 1-loss Clemson in: 2-loss B12 & P12 champs. The Pac-12 has been 1 of those leagues where anybody can beat anybody else any given game. Since the CFP Era, 5 of the 7 P12 champs have had multiple losses. So if that trend ends up repeating, that removes them from the equation. The B12 will be more troublesome, as they've only produced 2 multi-loss champs twice in this era (1 of those being last year). But again, it has at least happened to them so not out of realm of possibility. Also is the added issue of Oklahoma & Texas' impending departure to the SEC. I have a feeling that everyone that is capable is gonna be giving those two their best shot on the way out the door, and OU and Texas is gonna want to leave on highest notes possible. Will that be enough to ensure that there isn't a worthy contender coming out the B12CG come selection Sunday?

The monkey wrenches: Notre Dame and Cincinnati.
*Notre Dame has the schedule that if they go undefeated they're in; and with 1-loss they'll still be firmly in the conversation. They get UNC, USC, and Cincy at home, VT & Stanford on the road, and have a defacto home game at Soldier Field against Wisconsin. FSU could've helped us out big with a win this weekend, but alas wasn't meant to be. If the Irish navigate their schedule and don't have more than 1 loss, we probably lose out to them in the committee room, especially if the SEC eats up 2 CFP bids.

*Cincy has a #8 preseason ranking and were just a few plays away in the Peach Bowl from having a perfect season last year. They also have 2 prime opportunities to bolster their resume this year - at Indiana (which based on their game against Iowa is probably not gonna be as good as last year, but still a P5 opponent) and at Notre Dame. If they win those games and are able to run the table in the American, they could have a legit shot of getting a CFP bid IMO.

The Wildcards:
* does the B10 champ get a blemish or 2. I think B10 is Ohio State's to lose - they've been the class of the league for years now and they've gone thru past 2 seasons undefeated in the regular season. & I think the game at Minnesota will probably be their "straighten up & fly right moment". I don't know if the B10 champ is gonna get left out, especially if its the Buckeyes continuing their run of the past 2 seasons. The only way I see the B10 getting left out would be a multi-loss West Division champ upsetting an undefeated/1-loss Ohio State in the B10CG.

* COVID - seen someone on Reddit CFB say it in a comment on a post and really gotta agree with him. With COVID affecting everything last year, there's truly alot of unknowns with alot of teams about how good they really are (outside of Bama apparently) and with how players/teams are gonna react to playing in front of large crowds again after a year in sparse/no crowds. Gotta think, last night DJU and whoever else were true freshmen last year were playing in front of the largest and loudest crowd in their college careers. And COVID is still hanging over this season; we (not just Clemson but everyone in general) could see games get affected by the virus, either with key players being out or teams having to cancel/forfeit games due to insufficient personnel. COVID is probably gonna affect some potential contenders along the way and heaven knows how the CFP committee will try to take that into consideration when that happens. Hopefully we can avoid any major COVID issues as the year progresses.

Again, alot of season has to play out. Only thing our coaches and players can do is wipe the blood from their mouths, get back to work, and take it one game at a time. As for us, only thing we can do is put on our orange gear,cheer our ***es off watching our Tigers play, and hope that our boys pick up the wins and get better as the season goes on.

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Sep 6, 2021, 3:45 AM

Re: Factors for......
Saturday nights loss did not sting .It was a hard gut punch.
Butlet's try to simplify this if we can;
SEC Championship game winner is in.
Big 10 Championship game winner is in
Big 12 Championship game winner is in.
PAC 12 Championship winner is in providing they have only one loss. This conference is always a mystery for some reason. But if the winner goes undefeated Clemson is definitely out.
An undefeated Notre Dame is in.
And the most important one, IMO a one loss Georgia whose only loss is in the SEC Championship game to Alabama knocks Clemson out of the CFP's even if Clemson wins the ACCCG.
The Key is Georgia and Notre Dame. For Clemson to get in, both Notre Dame and Georgia needs a regular season loss for Clemson to have any hope of getting in, and Clemson has to go undefeated from here on out.
As far as #8 Cincinnati goes it could depend on their strength of schedule, but if they do go undefeated then Clemson is definitely "ALL-OUT"!

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Sep 6, 2021, 7:09 AM

Before we worry about playoffs let's hope we can see improvement on offense. The oline is BAD schemes on offense is bad play calling bad and our qb play is bad.This offense needs a big-time coordinator innovation tempo

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Sep 6, 2021, 7:49 AM

Spot on

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Correct, The Last Thing We Should Be Thinking About


Sep 6, 2021, 9:36 AM

...at this point is making the CFP.

Focus on correcting mistakes and getting better one week at a time, one game at a time.

I don't think making the CFP is even on Dabo's list of team goals, right?

Win the opener (X), win the division, win the state, win the conference, win the closer.

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Sep 6, 2021, 11:29 AM

Agree with many of those points.

All TV networks and sports reporters have a vested interest in their regional and conference teams. They cannot deny the skill sets and marquis value of Clemson with DW4 and TL16. But this one game against a legitimate playoff container paints the entire ACC season as invalid as it's a league of cupcakes - most ACC schools do not even attempt to compete in football.

Networks and reporters will lobby hard against Clemson at season-end based upon the UGA game to place another team in the playoffs for "fairness and variety".

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Sep 6, 2021, 7:54 AM

A one loss Clemson team gets in over:
Any two loss team

A one loss Oklahoma team- their OOC games are weak. They should have up a ton of points to Tulane. They can’t help this, but Nebraska is terrible. If Iowa State loses to Iowa, they won’t have a marquee win. They have zero wins in the CFP and get blown out most years. They won’t get the will get punished by some committee members for bolting to the SEC.

A one loss Notre Dame team

A one loss Cincy team- The Cincy/ND game might be a play in game for the CFP.

A one loss Clemson team probably gets n over a zero loss Sunbelt team.

We won’t get in over:
Any Power Five conference champ or an undefeated Cincy

A One loss GA, Fla ( don’t see this happening) or Bama.

A one loss non SEC Champ TX A&M if their one loss is a close game.

A one loss PAC 12 champ

A one loss Big Champ

A one loss Iowa State team if Iowa has a good season

A lot of things have to happen for us to get in. This is the earliest Clemson has lost a game during the Playoff run. This is the best team we have lost to in the playoff run. We won’t have any quality wins but an 11-0 run to end the season is an 11-0 run. The only team to lose the opener and make the playoffs was the Ohio State team who lost to a mediocre Va Tech team and then won it all at the end.

I just hope of things don’t work out and we end the season with 1 loss but in the Orange Bowl, we play someone like Florida. I can’t see Clemson fans getting excited about playing someone like Cincy, a Cinderella Sunbelt team not named Coastal, or Oklahoma/Auburn yet again.

Someone said Clemson fans are spoiled, that is true. I took my family to the Orange Bowl when we played Ohio State. There is no novelty or excitement about going to Miami or playing in The Orange Bowl for us. It would have to be a compelling matchup for us to go to the game. I am not sure what I would see as a compelling matchup to see would be what the committee sees as a compelling matchup foe TV viewers.

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Sep 6, 2021, 7:58 AM

Sorry I meant to say we won’t get in over any zero loss Power Five team or Cincy.

Also Had some other typos: Oklahoma gave up a ton of points to Tulane- they also don’t know how to tackle.

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Sep 6, 2021, 9:44 AM

Bottom line is we need to pull for UGA to lose 1 and then lose to Bama. They are out.

There is no margin for error and we need to look impressive in the wins.

There is no other 1 loss team that is getting in over Clemson. Clemson is Clemson at this point and will be given the benefit of being a consistent player in the CFP.

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My question is.....


Sep 6, 2021, 8:02 AM

if Bama is seen as so good that they can't be beat, would you rather finish 12-1 and be left out of the playoff or get in only to be beaten by them after they knock out the UGa team we didn't beat? ( I would definitely like to get in and have a chance to beat Georgia who should be the 2nd SEC team to get in if that really happens).

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The most difficult part is Clemson winning out….

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Sep 6, 2021, 8:50 AM

If you go back and look over the past several years…. there is always a bunch of hand-wringing about this sort of thing, but in the end we are there with 1 loss if we take care of business.
I think that will be the tallest task of all.
There are teams in our conference capable of beating us.
It’s one week….I’m not sure any team outside of Bama should be thinking they are playoff ready and I didn’t see too much to be concerned about with several of the other teams you mentioned.
Maybe in October we’ll know a little more after a few games. But the week 1 over-reactions are alive and well at the moment.

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The most difficult part is Clemson winning out….


Sep 6, 2021, 8:50 AM

If you go back and look over the past several years…. there is always a bunch of hand-wringing about this sort of thing, but in the end we are there with 1 loss if we take care of business.
I think that will be the tallest task of all.
There are teams in our conference capable of beating us.
It’s one week….I’m not sure any team outside of Bama should be thinking they are playoff ready and I didn’t see too much to be concerned about with several of the other teams you mentioned.
Maybe in October we’ll know a little more after a few games. But the week 1 over-reactions are alive and well at the moment.

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Sep 6, 2021, 9:05 AM

This is all just pointless speculation for at least the next couple of months. There are an infinite number of potential scenarios right now so instead of trying to predict an unpredictable future, let's focus on learning how to block, pass and run the football. If those things don't improve all this speculation is even more meaningless than it is right now.

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Sep 6, 2021, 9:50 AM

How about we score a TD before we worry about the playoffs.

I didn’t think this was a playoff team before the season started, the offense isn’t ready. DJ needs a year, the O-line is suspect at best and the WR group isn’t balanced.

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Yes I know still early & yes a bunch of stuff that needs addressed


Sep 6, 2021, 10:54 AM

Nikki Hood's article was spot on with what went wrong & pointed out some things that played a factor (especially w/ the OL having moved the guys around).

The coaches & team need to worry about correcting mistakes, getting reps for OL to gel, & getting the offense back on track. Things that they'll have a good chance to do next 2 games - against SC State (who we've beaten pretty soundly each meeting) and Ga Tech (who we beat by 66 points last year & just lost to a NIU team that was winless last year).

Those are 2 games that will help cure some of what ails us before we hit 1st true road game at NC State (who usually plays us pretty tough in Raleigh) and home against Boston College (who gave us a big scare last year) before the bye week. The Wolfpack should be unbeaten & the Eagles should be no worse than 3-1 respectively going into the games. We take care of business & are 4-1 going into the bye week, then I think the train will be back on the tracks for the Oct/Nov push.

As I said, our team just needs to take it 1 game at a time. Was just hitting on some of the muddy waters that will have to clear up along the way.

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Sep 6, 2021, 11:32 AM

These upcoming games aren't games, they're scrimmages against sisters of the poor most including ACC games.

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