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All-TigerNet [12539]
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Explain how NC State 9-9, Clemson 10-8 and Clemson beat
Mar 16, 2014, 6:25 PM
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NC State by 17, but State gets into the tourn. and Clemson doesn't even get into the discussion? There was a stretch this year where State lost two or three in a row by 25 or 30 points.
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All-Conference [439]
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I was thinking the same thing
Mar 16, 2014, 6:26 PM
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It's ridiculous if we are skipped over.
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Orange Blooded [4412]
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And they go from a projected #2 seed in the NIT to making the big dance***
Mar 16, 2014, 6:27 PM
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Orange Blooded [2429]
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Re: And they go from a projected #2 seed in the NIT to making the big dance***
Mar 16, 2014, 6:28 PM
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Guess now we know how VT felt a few years back.
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All-In [35206]
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So I guess Pitt gets in?
Mar 16, 2014, 6:30 PM
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I still think we deserve to be in. We got hosed by Duke and jobed during the Pitt game. It's hard to swallow knowing that those two calls will alter our season. I know we're better than NCSU. So do you.
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Standout [328]
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It's about resumes
Mar 16, 2014, 6:36 PM
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We had a terrible non conference
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All-TigerNet [12539]
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We beat Duke by 13 and lost by 1. State lost to Duke by
Mar 16, 2014, 6:37 PM
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30 something in the first meeting and by 8 or 10 yesterday.
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CU Guru [1071]
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UMass, Arkansas, and Auburn - win 2 out of 3
Mar 16, 2014, 6:49 PM
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and we were likely in regardless of Pitt or Duke. Or even win one of them (Auburn) and win at Wake, and we were likely in. In the Pitt and Duke games, we were swinging for the bleachers. It didn't have to be that way, but we were very, very green in November and December when we lost those three OOC games...
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Re: UMass, Arkansas, and Auburn - win 2 out of 3
Mar 16, 2014, 6:57 PM
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i think the selection process is highly FLAWED. I senior laden team like UMASS is going to be better than a young team like Clemson in December. They should be. The process doesn't allow for IMPROVEMENT. We couldn't schedule tough early, cause we simply were not ready.
Would love to play them ######## now.
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CU Medallion [53781]
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When we lost to Auburn, I knew that was going to bite us. Of
Mar 16, 2014, 9:29 PM
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course, a friend of mine and I thought at the time,that we would not win 5...F I V E..ACC games at the time. This team showed as much spunk as any Clemson team in any sport that I can ever remember.
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Orange Blooded [2457]
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I beleive I counted them right
Mar 16, 2014, 6:39 PM
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Our 3 NCAA tournament team wins:
Duke (home), NC State (home, bubble team), Coastal (home, mid-major)
Their 3 wins:
Cuse (neutral site), Pitt (road), Tennessee (OOC road, bubble)
Their list is better than ours and probably what put them over the top. Our OOC killed any chance.
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All-TigerNet [12539]
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If two of us are that close then we beat them by 17 and
Mar 16, 2014, 6:48 PM
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finished one spot ahead of them in the conference standings.
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Orange Blooded [2457]
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Re: If two of us are that close then we beat them by 17 and
Mar 16, 2014, 7:17 PM
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That is one argument.
NC State's argument would be a much harder ACC schedule since (with tourney) they played Duke, UNC, Pitt, & Cuse twice and UVA one going 2-7.
Clemson played Duke & Pitt twice and UVA, Cuse, and UNC once going 1-6.
Their OOC and better wins (note all of ours are home and their are road and neutral) than ours trumped a head-to-head to the committee.
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Re: Explain how NC State 9-9, Clemson 10-8 and Clemson beat
Mar 16, 2014, 7:17 PM
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We had too many bad losses- Wake and ND were on the road, but bad conference losses none the less. Now, beat Pitt or UVA in Littlejohn and I think we'd be in. OOC schedule is another story- UMASS and Coastal made it and we played two SEC teams on the road- so we at least tried to schedule power conference teams. Didn't get a shot to play a Big 10 team this season. State had a few more wins over better teams than we did. Other than beating Duke, we had no Top 50 wins.
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And we would have beaten UVA if Nnoko had played
Mar 16, 2014, 7:29 PM
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And I think they should take into account improvement over the season...and losses that we should have won over Pitt and Duke!
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Easy Because they are NC State
Mar 16, 2014, 8:01 PM
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Don't they always get in????? Of Course they do, as do every School in North Carolina except Gardner-Webb
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Re: Explain how NC State 9-9, Clemson 10-8 and Clemson beat
Mar 16, 2014, 10:38 PM
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Welcome to Tobacco Road.
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Re: Explain how NC State 9-9, Clemson 10-8 and Clemson beat
Mar 16, 2014, 11:16 PM
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Totally agree...and our bad losses were at the beginning of the season , not sure I understand their logic
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