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Re: Recruiting update ... solid 7th place right now in the ACC
May 18, 2022, 2:35 PM
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So right now we have the same number of commits as Alabama and our rating is a few decimal points higher. OMG the sky is falling!!!!
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Re: Recruiting update ... solid 7th place right now in the ACC
May 18, 2022, 3:27 PM
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Not sure being #7 in the ACC is that big of a deal and comparing us to Bama isn't apples to apples as they are notorious for closing super strong very late in the cycle. Do keep in mind, previous to last year, 80% of commits have always been locked down by late August.
What is different this cycle that can't be argued, is our inability to gain traction with any of our first 60 offers. Minus Vizzina and Joseph (who it looks like we will lose any day). We are now on our 3rd and 4th wave of offers. For a multitude of possible reasons, real or not, we are not being viewed by recruits like we have in the past. I am going to guess, of the current outstanding offers, we land less than 9. If that is the case, we will need roughly 13 more recruits from offers we have yet to extend. With summer fast approaching and many kids wanting to commit before their senior year, the window is closing fast. I don't think we have been in this position since 2009, oh yea, Dabo's first year. Doesn't leave much time to develop relationships.
If all we focus on is the 2022 roster, then no problem, we will be just fine next year. However, 2022 saw us take too many fallbacks and if the same happens this year, then I think we will see it on the field in 2024 and it could be rough.
If you have enjoyed the run over the last 10 years and expect it to continue, don't be surprised if some of the "glass half-full" posters are on to something. There are warning signs everywhere for 2024 and beyond.
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Excellent, well thought out post.
May 18, 2022, 3:49 PM
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It is early but there's a lot to be concerned about.
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Re: Recruiting update ... solid 7th place right now in the ACC
May 18, 2022, 3:49 PM
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I’m not sure how we took too many fallbacks in 2022. We took a couple of running backs and some cornerbacks and a pretty good quarterback but I didn’t see any fallbacks at all. And I do hope us “glass half full” posters are indeed on to something. It’s the “glass half empty” guys and their doomsday junk that I’m tired of hearing from.
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Re: Recruiting update ... solid 7th place right now in the ACC
May 18, 2022, 4:22 PM
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Depending what you consider doomsday, I would have to agree with you. 2022 looks pretty good to me, I think we have a very good shot at making the CFP, the game in South Bend will determine this.
Just looking at the facts...here are our fallbacks from the 2022 class: Oliver, Sapp, Lawson, Griffin, McCloud, Turner and Adams. 7 out of 20 or 35% of the class. A few had zero Power 5 offers. Could anyone one of them become an All American or all conference, absolutely. However, it is more likely the majority of these individuals would have been limited contributors on our past teams. While recruiting is an inexact science, there are many who have made it a full time profession (college coaches, analysts and publications) that get reasonably close in their predictions.
Keep in mind, there are only 65 power 5 teams, if the average recruiting class is 23, that makes up 1495 scholarship players each year. On aver there are 32 five star recruits (it mimics the NFL draft) and 330 4 star players, hence the term Blue Chippers. This is why the competition to land 4 & 5 players is so fierce. At one time I saw a stat that 78% of all NFL draft picks were former Blue Chippers.
At the end of the day, all any of us can do it cheer on the team we field each Saturday and yes, I refuse to boo DJ. I chug the Dabo Kool-Aid as most of us do. I gladly make my IPTAY contributions every year.
With all of that being said, ever though it is still very early in the cycle, this is not business as usual, there is something very different going on. To say anything different is either denial, naivete or just one big blind spot. At some point, I have employed everyone of these so not casting stones!
Go Tigers! Let's crush 2022 and close out the 2023 cycle late if we have to.
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Re: Recruiting update ... solid 7th place right now in the ACC
May 18, 2022, 6:47 PM
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So before Wayne Gallman or Travis Etienne ever played a down at Clemson, what would your prediction of them have been?? What did you think Tavien Feaster was going to become in May before his freshman year? If you say a gamecock I know you are lying. Give these guys and the coaching staff a chance is all I’m saying. We have no idea how the ‘22 incoming backs will do. Keep the faith, Tiger.
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We still have a long way to go until Dec. Let's go Dabo.***
May 18, 2022, 3:05 PM
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Re: Recruiting update ... solid 7th place right now in the ACC
May 18, 2022, 3:05 PM
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Dabo should just hang it up...
Take a Xanax and find something else to worry about. It's May 18th. We lost our nearly our entire coaching staff and still managed a TOP TEN class.
David Hood even confirmed that NIL is having the negative effect on recruiting you people act like it is.
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Last I checked, your coots' recruiting class is ranked 70th
May 18, 2022, 10:31 PM
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Much lower than us.
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Re: Recruiting update ... solid 7th place right now in the ACC
May 18, 2022, 3:56 PM
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The early commitment stuff doesn't mean much.
The big NIL payers and the big winning / CFP participants will have plenty of de-commits from which to choose before the mid-December signing period.
Clemson won't be among the really big NIL payers; never will be.
Clemson might well be back in CFP, with the tremendous foundation via our defense.
Our two most losable games are road games at N.Dame & FSU. Wake is away; hopefully they won't beat us.
NCSU, Gamecocks, Miami are all home games.
CFP is doable if our offense improves marginally from end of 2021.
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Re: Recruiting update ... solid 7th place right now in the ACC
May 18, 2022, 6:31 PM
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We’ll need more than a marginal improvement on offense. We need a passing game this year as well. All run and we’re done.
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Re: Recruiting update ... solid 7th place right now in the ACC
May 18, 2022, 6:49 PM
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With our defense, marginal improvement over the last 3-4 games of last year will be enough.
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Re: Recruiting update ... solid 7th place right now in the ACC
May 18, 2022, 5:46 PM
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fire Dabo.
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Re: Recruiting update ... solid 7th place right now in the ACC
May 19, 2022, 8:12 AM
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We will finish around the top 10. The difference will be that almost every school in the top 25 for recruiting will also sign players from the portal, while we probably won't.
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