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Thank you for alerting us to this "must read". The pro-ACC
Dec 18, 2012, 5:16 PM
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crowd here who want nothing to do with the Big 12, won't like it. But the truth can be inconvenient, at times.
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Orange Blooded [4098]
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Re: Thank you for alerting us to this "must read". The pro-ACC
Dec 18, 2012, 5:31 PM
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the hand writting is on the wall..get out of the ACC or drown with it!! our only 2 choices!!
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I believe we will be in the Big 12 in 2014.
Dec 18, 2012, 5:37 PM
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I know that people *itch about the longer travel. But what's our choice? There will be no other option.
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I'm not pro ACC at all, but that certainly wasn't
Dec 18, 2012, 5:45 PM
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"must read" material. It's been well documented that due to non standard reporting practices those numbers DO NOT represent an accurate comparison.
That "article" was at best an SEC blogger throwing numbers out in an effort to support his agenda.
At worst it was someone who doesn't comprehend accounting/financial data and is dangerous with a little bit of information.
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Re: I'm not pro ACC at all, but that certainly wasn't
Dec 18, 2012, 5:49 PM
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What agenda does that writer have?
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110%er [8008]
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Whatever makes the SEC stronger.
Dec 18, 2012, 5:54 PM
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He wants the SEC to get two ACC teams. He has written about it many times. He knows it can't/won't happen until the ACC falls apart. So his agenda is clear.
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I doubt that a blogger from a website has influence in these
Dec 18, 2012, 6:02 PM
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matters. The Presidents and Athletic Directors know what's what. This is just information for the fans. The fact that they have an opinion has no impact.
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110%er [8008]
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I agree 100% and I never suggested he has influence.
Dec 18, 2012, 6:13 PM
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Neither does the Dude of WV. But they do have an agenda in their articles, tweets, and blogs. Anyone reading their material would be wise to remember that fact and take anything they say with a huge grain of salt. Or as Walt would say...UUUUGGE grain of salt.
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It could end up that the ACC does implode and we just have
Dec 18, 2012, 6:46 PM
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to take whatever seat is available. Have to say that the blogger did make an excellent point that ACC schools did not sign a grant of rights to lock everybody in.
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Re: Thank you for alerting us to this "must read". The pro-ACC
Dec 18, 2012, 6:17 PM
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The real truth though is. The ACC sticklers won't believe a word of this even thought these numbers have been there from the beginning of conference realignment. They will not admit that leaving the ACC is beast for Clemson even after Clemson has hit absolute ROCK BOTTOM. They will blame Clemson sinking to the bottom on everyone (except the ACC) that saw the writing on the wall and did what was best for their school. They realigned with other conferences to save what they had. And the ACC stubborn die hards will blame them for acting in time for their own survival.
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I would love to go to the SEC. Not debating if that is an
Dec 18, 2012, 6:25 PM
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option, just stating my preference.
I would be OK going to the Big12 ALONG WITH AT LEAST 3 other ACC teams, preferably FSU, GaT, and VaT. Throw in Miami and NCST and that would be a great conference.
But just going to the Big12 with FSU... not that excited. Clemson would be in a western conference with only FSU and WVU close by. The money would have to be really, REALLY good. I just don't think a 12 team Big12 will generate much more revenue than the ACC.
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Orange Blooded [4947]
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Just look at Louisville
Dec 18, 2012, 6:03 PM
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If you want to show why these numbers are crap take a look at Louisville. They have been in the inferior big east yet will be one of the top ACC based on revenue? They are about to get a huge paycheck by joining the ACC yet you people will still say we don't make enough money to survive in the ACC. Well someone will be doing just fine.
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Re: Just look at Louisville
Dec 18, 2012, 8:15 PM
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whatweeatin,
You look at Louisville and say "hey these guys were in a crap conference and their budget is great" which is a testament to their AD and President. They look at that budget and say "now look what we can do with all this money"
We are competing with the best in the country. If all you want to do is "survive" then by all means go for it, but don't complain when we are in a 80 year old coliseum playing basketball and a run down DV.
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The US$163M Texas Paradox
Dec 18, 2012, 6:52 PM
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Short term profits don't always equal quality. The business world often forgets this fact.
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The "Mr. SEC" web site is very anti-expansion.
Dec 18, 2012, 7:45 PM
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They have often stated that they wish the topic would go away. For them to be doing a series of blogs on expansion now, you can bet your bottom dollar that something is brewing. We will know what before football season starts in Septmber.
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NASCAR tried this a few years ago
Dec 18, 2012, 7:49 PM
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closing tracks taking away races and moving to "bigger markets" look at NASCAR now. Just like the housing market profits can not go up for every
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All-American [580]
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Every conference is doing that and have been for years.***
Dec 18, 2012, 7:54 PM
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Lets just this was true and the ACC was going under would ND bail us out with full membership?***
Dec 18, 2012, 7:57 PM
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ND is only in it for ND. There's a reason they have been
Dec 18, 2012, 8:15 PM
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an independent all these years and still are in football. There's a reason they aligned with the SEC and Big 12 to rule that you don't need to win a conference to make the playoffs.
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Re: Big Bang Theories for Super Conferences.
Dec 18, 2012, 8:22 PM
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These figures are entirely inaccurate as IPTAY funds are not figured into the 66.9 they say we bring in. IPTAY is what puts CU over the top in our #### conference. It helps us get what we need to compete with teams outside the ACC.
That is why it is so important to give to IPTAY
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Palmettoson
Dec 18, 2012, 10:13 PM
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If that were the case Texas would have won the national championship 10 years running. We are about to be making 10s of millions more than 5 years ago. I don't think upgrades will be an issue.
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