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ESPN against mentions Clemsoning
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ESPN against mentions Clemsoning


Oct 19, 2015, 11:58 AM

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13917412/boise-state-broncos-ole-miss-rebels-ucla-bruins-cut-playoff-contention

"Even Dabo Swinney thought Michigan pulled a "Clemson" on its last punt against Michigan State"


and that's the only comment about Clemson in the whole article.

Can someone remind me of the time that Clemson has ever lost a game in that way? What the #### does clemsoning even mean to ESPN? Losing to a team you shouldn't? Losing in blowout fashion? Losing in a crazy way?

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I think it just means something negative.***


Oct 19, 2015, 11:59 AM



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Re: I think it just means something negative.***


Oct 19, 2015, 12:21 PM

Yep - it's a derogatory term for losing in any fashion now. Charleston Southern losing to Alabama... "Charleston Southern Clemson'd the game away..." sigh

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Re: ESPN against mentions Clemsoning


Oct 19, 2015, 12:00 PM

Well we didn't lose quite like that, but there was a Georgia Tech game back when Justin Miller was still playing for us when our long snapper effed up the snap and gave Tech the ball inside our own 10 yard line, if I recall correctly.

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yeah that was like 11 years ago


Oct 19, 2015, 12:03 PM

since then so many teams have lost in bizarre and spectacular ways.

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Re: yeah that was like 11 years ago


Oct 19, 2015, 12:05 PM

Yes you are correct.

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Re: ESPN against mentions Clemsoning


Oct 19, 2015, 12:08 PM [ in reply to Re: ESPN against mentions Clemsoning ]

That game was the worst I ever felt after a loss. Watching on TV after family had gone to bed (kids were young), and over that last couple minutes I wasn't sure if I was having a heart attack or about to puke.

We were pretenders back then. Capable of winning vs. virtually anyone, but not capable of sustaining championship level play. And when we were down, it seemed nearly impossible to hang in or mount a comeback.

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WL


Re: ESPN against mentions Clemsoning


Oct 19, 2015, 12:45 PM [ in reply to Re: ESPN against mentions Clemsoning ]

Geoff Rigsby.. Damm - he's somewhat of a friend of mine (or was - we've since lost touch). That will follow him for the rest of his life.

True story - that year, my friends/family all went to Colorado to go skiing for New Years and he came with us. We're in a gondola and there's a few other people in there with us and we start talking. Somehow, this other guy starts talking to Geoff and Geoff mentions that he plays football for Clemson. The guy says "oh really" and asks what position, and Geoff tells him long snapper - and without fail, the guy goes "huh.. so.. are you the guy that screwed up and lost that one game against GT?"

And then - no kidding, that same trip a day or so later - we're all in our cabin and watching ESPN one night and they're having this Sportscenter Year in Review thing. It's just a 30 minute montage of Shaq and Kobe, people hitting home runs, crazy NASCAR crashes and all this stuff. I swear to God, the entire show ends with Geoff collapsed on the paw as all these GT players celebrate. We were all like "Holy #### it's G... I mean.. ughh.." He was sitting right with us - maybe the most awkward situation I've ever been in. We tried to save it by saying "well, none of us have ever been on Sportscenter." He seemed to take it ok I guess.

He is a good guy though - I feel bad for these athletes getting crucified over mistakes like that. These kids pour their lives into these programs - in no way do they want to lose. Geoff is a good guy and like I said, he'll be remembered for that forever.

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They're punking Dabo,


Oct 19, 2015, 12:01 PM

And I don't like it. He should refuse to be interviewed until they stop throwing that word around.

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No, that's ridiculous


Oct 19, 2015, 12:26 PM

A coach can't "refuse to be interviewed" if you want to keep a legit program.

There's only one way to combat this - continue to reverse the trend. The mountain of evidence is mounting up. Run the table, beat FSU, punish the coots, win the ACC this season. All very realistic goals. All things we should be able to do given our talent compared to the remaining teams on our schedule.

The toughest thing is beating FSU. The way we've played them the last few years has been embarrassing. That has to change, starting this year. They aren't as good as they've been in past years. If they come up here and beat us again, it will be because we underachieved. Dabo cannot let that happen.

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If winning 34 straight over unranked teams, beating LSU,


Oct 19, 2015, 12:41 PM

Ohio State, and Oklahoma in succussive bowl games HASN'T DONE IT, then we may need to try a new tactic..

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maybe we need to turn terrible


Oct 19, 2015, 12:43 PM

and start losing like crazy so that overtime we win it's impressive

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Oh boy...


Oct 19, 2015, 12:02 PM

Dabo ain't going to like this.

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Do you really want me to remind you?


Oct 19, 2015, 12:04 PM

2004 GT. They didn't run the fumbled punt snap in, but it set them up for like a 1 play TD to Calvin Johnson. We get that punt away we win the game.

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Re: Do you really want me to remind you?


Oct 19, 2015, 12:08 PM

Was this where the whole thing started? Or does it go back to the fumblerooskie against FSU? I wonder if anyone even recalls what led to the whole thing.

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I don't even remember


Oct 19, 2015, 12:09 PM

who started this and when?

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It's a Tommy Bowden thing


Oct 19, 2015, 12:18 PM

Time after time he had a way of losing (or nearly losing to) teams that had far less talent than his team. So you can thank Tommy Bowden for it now. He was finally fired mid-season for losing to a pathetic Wake Forest team despite having vastly superior talent.

It seems that the only way to overcome it would be for us to win the national championship again, post-Bowden. Then our program can undeniably be associated with success at the highest level, and those who use that term will sound ignorant or foolish by continuing to use it to signify anything else other than success. Of course, there are some in sports media who will sound ignorant or foolish because that's who they are. I suspect that Schlabach may be one of those, although I'm not familiar enough with him to say so with knowledge.

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It was apparently added to the Urban Dictionary in 2011.


Oct 19, 2015, 12:18 PM [ in reply to I don't even remember ]

So, while some other games under Bowden probably contributed to it, the culmination was likely GT and/or NCST games in 2011.

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Re: Do you really want me to remind you?***


Oct 19, 2015, 12:34 PM [ in reply to Re: Do you really want me to remind you? ]



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We ended 2003 with a beat down at the hands of Wake Forest


Oct 19, 2015, 12:46 PM [ in reply to Re: Do you really want me to remind you? ]

Then beat top 5 FSU.
Then killed Duke.
Then beat Scar 63-17.
Then beat top 10 Tennessee in the Peach Bowl.

Then came back in 2004 and lost a game to Georgia Tech by snapping the ball over the punters head. All we had to do was punt the ball and we win the game.

Bowden should have been fired after Wake Forest beat us so badly in 2003.

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Don't forget losing 16-13 to a terrible Duke team the week


Oct 19, 2015, 1:09 PM

after knocking off #11 Miami down in south Florida. We should've finished the season on a 6 game winning streak.

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that's the best example***


Oct 19, 2015, 2:10 PM



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Again. That was 11 years ago.***


Oct 19, 2015, 12:09 PM [ in reply to Do you really want me to remind you? ]



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Very, Very Excited. Very, Very Proud.


Just saying it happened, not that it has anything to do


Oct 19, 2015, 12:14 PM

with the origins of the phrase.

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That's Mark Schlabach and everyone already knows he's an


Oct 19, 2015, 12:05 PM

azzhole.

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Re: That's Mark Schlabach and everyone already knows he's an


Oct 19, 2015, 12:37 PM

This

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The closest recent comparison would be when their


Oct 19, 2015, 12:06 PM

'King of Football' Nicki Satan pulled a "Bama" trying an unmakeable FG and forgetting to cover the return.... costing them the SEC West division crown. You won't hear that from ESPiN, though.


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None of those definitions were the original definition.


Oct 19, 2015, 12:11 PM

The original context has been forgotten by most.

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GT in 04, all we had to do was punt it***


Oct 19, 2015, 12:19 PM



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They use it as a generic term for losing, it seems.***


Oct 19, 2015, 12:22 PM

.

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true


Oct 19, 2015, 12:23 PM

about 60 FBS teams Clemsoned this week

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MSU was favored and ranked, those Goobers can't even


Oct 19, 2015, 12:22 PM

get it right and it's their definition.....Clemsoning was beating a ranked team and losing the next week to an un-ranked team...It's simply not applicable in the UM/MSU game

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Run the table and 'Clemsoning' takes on a new meaning...


Oct 19, 2015, 12:24 PM

Winning against all odds and media BiaS...

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Re: ESPN against mentions Clemsoning


Oct 19, 2015, 12:34 PM

The only way to fix any of this and shut them up is WIN. We WIN and say F$%# Off, ESPN!! I like that they continue to give us no respect. The players and coaches recognize that and it's just fuel to our fire.

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2004 against Georgia Tech.***


Oct 19, 2015, 12:35 PM



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Bowden's Teams were real bad abt disapointed the fans (link)


Oct 19, 2015, 12:40 PM

That is why he was fired.


When someone says Clemsoning. I think they are comparing a team to a Clemson team of 10 years ago.


http://m.ramblinwreck.com/m/sports/m-footbl/recaps/091204aaa.html

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Re: ESPN against mentions Clemsoning


Oct 19, 2015, 12:39 PM

Who Cares, the idiots at ESecPN think it means losing, any way any how, they only way to change it is keep on Winning. Beat Miami, Go Tigers!!!!!!! F EsecPN!!!!!!!!!

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