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Great read. Biden’s climate plan: Green New Deal minus the
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Great read. Biden’s climate plan: Green New Deal minus the


Aug 7, 2020, 11:57 AM

crazy. Please read in entirety before commenting.


https://slate.com/business/2020/07/joe-bidens-climate-plan-is-the-green-new-deal-minus-the-crazy.html


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I got to https:/ and felt I've read enough to know that


Aug 7, 2020, 11:58 AM

it' sux and that he's lying to us and that he should be charged.

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What are you doing in here?***


Aug 7, 2020, 12:20 PM



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I stopped at...


Aug 7, 2020, 12:31 PM [ in reply to I got to https:/ and felt I've read enough to know that ]

Green New Deal Minus the Crazy...so I'm not allowed to comment.

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I'm kidding, joe...


Aug 7, 2020, 12:36 PM

I did try to read it

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Re: I got to https:/ and felt I've read enough to know that


Aug 7, 2020, 12:43 PM [ in reply to I got to https:/ and felt I've read enough to know that ]

This poster gets how to do politics right. Bravo.

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It worked so well under his 8 years with Obama


Aug 7, 2020, 12:38 PM



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the counter argument to that...


Aug 7, 2020, 12:41 PM

is Trump undid everything they accomplished.

I'm not arguing one way or the other. I'm an idiot because I think the "we are destroying ourselves" is overblown.

My sister is a geological engineer. Trump's policies have hurt her industry.

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How have they hurt her?


Aug 7, 2020, 12:46 PM



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Good read here:


Aug 7, 2020, 12:52 PM

https://www.factcheck.org/2011/10/obamas-solyndra-problem/

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she does site prep and clean up...


Aug 7, 2020, 12:58 PM [ in reply to How have they hurt her? ]

OSHA type of things. Trump has removed a lot of the restrictions that makes her work necessary.

I'm not an "environmentalist" but I'm also not anti-environment.

This is where things are not so cut and dried.

My sister and I think differently politically. But we don't argue about that stuff. I also want her to prosper.

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Re: she does site prep and clean up...


Aug 7, 2020, 1:06 PM



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3.5 years??? Come on. What are you going to see in so


Aug 7, 2020, 2:36 PM

short of time?

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I’m sure if there were anything to be seen


Aug 7, 2020, 2:38 PM



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Like COVID caused by chemicals in the water?***


Aug 7, 2020, 2:54 PM



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Re: Great read. Biden’s climate plan: Green New Deal minus the


Aug 7, 2020, 12:44 PM

Biden’s plan spends 2 trillion over 4 years.

So yeah I’m completely out on that.

Was China mentioned at all in the plan? Because they are the worlds largest leader in pollution.

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Re: Great read. Biden’s climate plan: Green New Deal minus the


Aug 7, 2020, 12:52 PM

trump blew through 3 trillion in a month, you do not seem so concerned about that do you?

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Re: Great read. Biden’s climate plan: Green New Deal minus the


Aug 7, 2020, 1:01 PM


trump blew through 3 trillion in a month, you do not seem so concerned about that do you?




ERMEHGERD, but TRUMP!!!

Why are you all so obsessed with Trump. This thread has nothing to do with Trump, you clown.

And you are correct, I am opposed to most excess government spending. But I do believe that spending trillions on climate change is a bit different than an unprecedented pandemic. Don't ya think? Don't get me wrong, there was a ton of unnecessary spending in the stimulus packages and I called that out on here.

Also, do you think that the world's leading nation in pollution should be included in climate change discussions? And do you think that us spending 2 trillion dollars in 4 years on climate change is going to save the world?

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Because it’s a domestic policy proposal I guess.


Aug 7, 2020, 1:06 PM

China isn’t mentioned. Nor is India or Pakistan.

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You may have to dumb that down a little bit for him...***


Aug 7, 2020, 1:09 PM



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If the goal is really the environment though


Aug 7, 2020, 1:15 PM [ in reply to Because it’s a domestic policy proposal I guess. ]



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When you say target do you mean trade tariffs?***


Aug 7, 2020, 2:29 PM



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I mean these countries that are all so serious


Aug 7, 2020, 3:36 PM



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But that would hurt our economy also.***


Aug 7, 2020, 4:04 PM



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Re: Because it’s a domestic policy proposal I guess.


Aug 7, 2020, 1:23 PM [ in reply to Because it’s a domestic policy proposal I guess. ]

josephg® said:

China isn’t mentioned. Nor is India or Pakistan.




And my point is that do you really think that us spending 4 trillion dollars on climate change is going to save the world, or even significantly improve the world without any other countries stepping up?

I think climate initiatives should be taken and I believe climate change is real. However the Green New Deal is BS.

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China has developing nation status.


Aug 7, 2020, 1:22 PM [ in reply to Re: Great read. Biden’s climate plan: Green New Deal minus the ]

If anyone doubts that they are developing, may I refer you to the virus they developed and unleashed on the world.

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Ermahgawd, China!


Aug 7, 2020, 2:56 PM [ in reply to Re: Great read. Biden’s climate plan: Green New Deal minus the ]

Why do you care so much about China? Sure they suck with the environment, but we can only control ourselves. Not saying I agree with Biden’s plan or the money proposed, but I’m not gonna refuse to support US environmental progress because China is bad.

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Re: Ermahgawd, China!


Aug 7, 2020, 3:08 PM

Oh it's not just China, but they are the worst.

Not saying we shouldn't take any climate initiatives. If we spend a #### ton of money and get to carbon neutral without the rest of the world complying then it would have very minimal impact on the climate. That is my opinion.

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Re: Great read. Biden’s climate plan: Green New Deal minus the


Aug 7, 2020, 1:20 PM

I already read the agreement Joe has with the Bernie crew. It's 150 pages and reads like AOC on xanax. Nothing in that article will change my mind so I hope you'll excuse me for not reading more of Biden's bullchit.

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If you read it, I will amend our bet from 15 to 14%


Aug 7, 2020, 2:28 PM

of black vote Trump receives.

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