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Think the Braves will put an OCULUS in their new stadium?
Nov 13, 2013, 8:51 AM
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Absolutely ridiculous to tear down a 20 year old stadium as nice as Turner Field!! Yes, it's located in the ghetto & they want to get out 'where the money' is in Cobb County, but don't come whining to the tax payers to foot the bill. BTW, this goes for the Falcons who are doing the same thing.
http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/baseball/braves-plan-to-build-new-stadium-in-cobb/nbpNQ/
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"Whining"?
Nov 13, 2013, 9:00 AM
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Cobb County has reportedly presented the Braves with a very nice offer to provide 2/3 of the stadium funding. There's no "whining" to it. If taxpayers have an issue, they should take it up with local elected officials in Cobb County, not the Braves. The Braves are only taking what's being offered to them.
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Braves never wanted their stadium following Fulton Co to
Nov 13, 2013, 9:50 AM
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be built in that area but politics and race decided that for them....city of Atlanta caved to pressure from the neighborhood groups and built the Olympic Stadium/TF there. There are a few challenges to that site that were never going to change....
1. It's extremely difficult to get to...the maze of streets you have to drive through to get off of the downtown connector to the ballpark from the north is awful. Around the capitol building...back over the connector...past the Holiday Inn. Traffic nightmare.
2. Marta never had the vision to build a stop to TF. They came up with a bus from Five Points to the stadium and back.
3. Parking wasn't adequate at the stadium. The parking was also owned by the city of Atlanta so Braves received no revenue from it. Off site parking is sketcky at best in the neighborhoods.
4. The neighborhoods around the ballpark are scary....no way around it. I've walked through there with my wife and my head was on a swivel the entire time.
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The Braves need to spend their money on better hitting***
Nov 13, 2013, 9:02 AM
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One of the goals of the move would be to
Nov 13, 2013, 9:03 AM
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Generate the ticket revenue necessary to raise payroll. Attendance has been stagnant over the last several years, and so has the payroll, as a result.
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Wren signings: Kawakami, Lowe, Uggla & BJ Upton $$$$$$$$$$
Nov 13, 2013, 9:23 AM
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Flushed into the Chattahoochee River
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He has done a remarkable job, the exception being
Nov 13, 2013, 9:25 AM
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His "big-time" free agent signings.
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Multi-year free agent signings have a low success rate
Nov 13, 2013, 9:29 AM
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for everyone, not just for Frank Wren.
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In fairness......
Nov 13, 2013, 9:34 AM
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Braves fans were elated when the organization signed Uggla and BJ Upton. Uggla and Upton are both career .250 hitters. I don't think anyone could have envisioned they'd both hit well below .200
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not at all....both just fell apart....with Uggla I think he
Nov 13, 2013, 9:39 AM
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got his payday and just lost focus. I hope with a winter of work with the hitting coaches BJ can turn it around.
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Uggla is probably a lost cause...
Nov 13, 2013, 9:43 AM
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Hopefully BJ can try to right his ship. That said, Uggla was a lot better over the last couple of years than BJ was last year.
The Braves will attempt to trade Uggla this off-season. Obviously, it'll be another couple of years before they can even entertain doing so with BJ.
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Wasn't there speculation of an Uggla/Brandon Phillips trade
Nov 13, 2013, 9:56 AM
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Phillips would certainly be an upgrade defensively over Uggla
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I saw it at one time...that won't happen.
Nov 13, 2013, 9:57 AM
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Reds would want some value in return, and Uggla ain't that.
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also Phillips has a ton of cash left on his deal...much more
Nov 13, 2013, 9:58 AM
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than Uggla....twice as much.
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That trade would probably have to include prospects...
Nov 13, 2013, 10:00 AM
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and I'm not sure how much the Braves would be willing to give up just to deal Uggla. I think Phillips also makes a good bit more money than Uggla so the Braves payroll would definitely increase.
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$50 million left on his contract vs $26 million***
Nov 13, 2013, 10:03 AM
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An Uggla trade this off-season will look like this...
Nov 13, 2013, 9:59 AM
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Team X gets Dan Uggla
Braves get low-level prospect you've never heard of
Braves pay $18-20 million of the $26 million still owed to Uggla.
The Braves could sweeten the pot with a prospect of their own, and have to pay less of Uggla's salaray.
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LaStella could be the answer....
Nov 13, 2013, 10:16 AM
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especially if he continues to hit like he has at every level he's played in the Braves minor league system.
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Other than the 2006 and 2010 seasons....
Nov 13, 2013, 9:48 AM
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Uggla has never really hit for average but he manages to get on base and drives in runs, and that's what he brings to the table offensively. That said, I wasn't overly concerned when his average statted falling. It's the decline in his HR's, OBP and RBI's that is the most concerning.
History supports that last year was an anomaly and totally out of character for Upton.
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agreed...his SLG percentage has fallen off dramatically
Nov 13, 2013, 9:57 AM
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over the past 2 yrs...his OBP last year was only .309...he struck out a 1/3 of the time he came to the plate. His total bases were almost 1/2 his career year of 2010....299 vs 162.
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Don't really care
Nov 13, 2013, 9:24 AM
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what the Cobb County Braves do.
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110%er [7913]
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whinning???? Cobb Co came to them with the offer and wanted
Nov 13, 2013, 9:35 AM
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to meet with the Braves about moving to 285/75.
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Cobb Co > Fulton Co. They can house homeless people at TF
Nov 13, 2013, 9:55 AM
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now. Make good use of it.
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Can't argue with your thoughts but......
Nov 13, 2013, 10:13 AM
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I live on the north side of the perimeter around Atlanta and it's a pain in the ### for me to go down to Turner Field to a game - will be much easier/nicer to go to the new stadium.
I have to agree from a cost/usage point of view that moving from Turner Field and building a new Georgia Dome for the Falcons don't make any sense.
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The city says that there is already a stream of revenue
Nov 13, 2013, 10:16 AM
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In place to finance the Falcons stadium (hotel/motel tax). There is no such stream of revenue for what the Braves were needing, so the city would have had to go into debt to the tune of a couple hundred million dollars.
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Falcons just got in line first but I do believe this works
Nov 13, 2013, 10:17 AM
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out best for the Braves in the end.
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Living in Greenville....
Nov 13, 2013, 10:22 AM
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I know I'd rather drive to Cobb County rather than all the way down to Fulton County to watch the Braves and I attend about a dozen games each season.
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It will be a more pleasant experience in many ways :-)***
Nov 13, 2013, 10:26 AM
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